LEGO Star Wars 2014 Pictures and Rumors

[Artifex]

Do you guys think Lego will release any OT sets in 2014?

[Artanis I]

I'm certain in the past EB staff has allowed us to post a hyperlink to an external site, but not a deeplink to pics or to host the pics here. TLG reps will tell you (quite understandably) to do none of the above, and to not even say that you've seen anything, let alone what or where. But we aren't the ones signing & breaking confidentiality agreements, it's the people who leak the pics/lists that are. I think it's fair for TLG to request for photos of "confidential" pics to be removed from sites, but I don't think it's right for them to delete links to sites containing them.

Although EB staff has allowed links in the past, they have never condoned or encouraged people with inside knowledge to show or share. I think it's fair for us to discuss and link to things that have been made public, but if nothing is made public, go without. I don't think it is right for EB to encourage leaking of information, or feel it is our right to see what hasn't been made public yet, but I do think it is fair to be allowed to point to & discuss what has already been leaked by the scumbags elsewhere.

I/you/they/etc won't change my mind, but if we have new rules then that's how it is.

Edited August 26, 2013 by Artanis I

[Fuppylodders]

Its not new rules, for the past few years, or even since I joined (whenever the date was) links to pictures have NEVER been allowed.

''But we aren't the ones signing & breaking confidentiality agreements''

But you *are* breaking *A* confidentiality that has been passed on by the fact the pictures are intended only for retailers.

Think a cannabis supplier to a pharmacy(it can be legally prescribed), some gets stolen and passed on to some little small time dealer/illegal distributor. Sure, they're not the ones that 'leaked' them out of the correct supply chain at first, but that doesn't make it any more legal to then be dealing them to others.

Perhaps not as extreme, but most definitely similar.

But then some will always think it a 'right' of theirs to handle stolen goods freely <.>

[Darth Malgus]

I'm certain in the past EB staff has allowed us to post a hyperlink to an external site, but not a deeplink to pics or to host the pics here. TLG reps will tell you (quite understandably) to do none of the above, and to not even say that you've seen anything, let alone what or where. But we aren't the ones signing & breaking confidentiality agreements, it's the people who leak the pics/lists that are. I think it's fair for TLG to request for photos of "confidential" pics to be removed from sites, but I don't think it's right for them to delete links to sites containing them.

Although EB staff has allowed links in the past, they have never condoned or encouraged people with inside knowledge to show or share. I think it's fair for us to discuss and link to things that have been made public, but if nothing is made public, go without. I don't think it is right for EB to encourage leaking of information, or feel it is our right to see what hasn't been made public yet, but I do think it is fair to be allowed to point to & discuss what has already been leaked by the scumbags elsewhere.

I/you/they/etc won't change my mind, but if we have new rules then that's how it is.

I think there has to be some balance and your points are quite valid, if its in the common domain then it becomes rather hard to say stop, if its been actively promoted then that is another matter entirely which I think the rules EB have for that are rather fair.

Edited August 26, 2013 by Darth Malgus

[Brickdoctor]

I can also remember a time when links were allowed and embedded pictures are not — can't pinpoint an exact time when there was a noticeable transition, but judging by Artanis' comment and Fuppylodders' comment and what I remember, it must've been some sort of less-noticeable change in our policy around 2011.

In any case, the fact of the matter is that TLG requested that we remove the links, and these are confidential pictures not intended for all of us which are the property of TLG, so — whether we could be forced to or not; I'm really not that certain where rights in copyright law is concerned — we think it is reasonable for TLG to ask us to remove the links in order to protect what is theirs. And yes, if some other site posts such pictures and you all go over there and see them, then we can't really stop that, and it's not under our control what you see there, nor would it lead to any confirmed confidential pictures being spread via EB, so discussion of that is just 'rumor with a source' and should be fine. Similar to how some members see the retailer's catalog and post the list of sets here. It's not the discussion on EB that's primarily the problem; it's the spreading of confidential pictures through EB that's the problem.

[Artanis I]

Think a cannabis supplier to a pharmacy(it can be legally prescribed), some gets stolen and passed on to some little small time dealer/illegal distributor. Sure, they're not the ones that 'leaked' them out of the correct supply chain at first, but that doesn't make it any more legal to then be dealing them to others.

That would be the equivalent of copying or passing the catalogue on, not quite the same as posting a link to a website, that hosts photos of catalogue images. Links are only useful until the images are taken down. I don't agree with copying the images to pass around (I don't agree with leaking them in the first place either), and I think TLG is acting fairly to ask people to remove them from their sites. Removing links seems a bit weird though, since once the images are removed the links don't point to anything.

A thought: is it the image itself or also the contents that are supposed to be confidential? If the latter, EB shouldn't be allowed to mention the contents or details any more than it should be allowed to point to the images. After all, TLG surely doesn't want the information out either, otherwise they'd publish it for us, wouldn't they? And they don't, except for D2C sets, and that's with photos. Perhaps they just don't mind anywhere near as much when we talk about sets we're not actually supposed to know about yet, even though they'd rather we didn't.

[Tariq j]

So basically, TLG do not want us to post any links or pictures of confidential sets on EB because they don't want them to spread etc.

Just a suggestion here but should moderators or regulators or members with good relationships be allowed to post links or pics on EB, so that way there's no upset or confusion.

[Brickdoctor]

A thought: is it the image itself or also the contents that are supposed to be confidential? If the latter, EB shouldn't be allowed to mention the contents or details any more than it should be allowed to point to the images. After all, TLG surely doesn't want the information out either, otherwise they'd publish it for us, wouldn't they? And they don't, except for D2C sets, and that's with photos. Perhaps they just don't mind anywhere near as much when we talk about sets we're not actually supposed to know about yet, even though they'd rather we didn't.

Well, they've never told us not to discuss the sets glimpsed in the catalog before...

I can't speak for TLG, of course; this is just speculation on my part. But I imagine that the discussion isn't the issue; it's spreading confidential images that shouldn't be happening. The discussion is probably good; it can build up the hype and act as a sort of beta test among AFOLs. Besides, the discussion without linking to or embedding the pictures is just discussion of rumors; there's no absolute proof in the discussion of any true and confidential information.

What it boils down to is that TLG gave confidential pictures to certain people, the pictures are not intended to be seen by the rest of us, TLG makes it clear that the pictures are supposed to be kept secret, it's a problem that other people are seeing the pictures, and TLG has requested that we help avoid making the problem worse by preventing more people from seeing pictures that weren't intended for them.

Just a suggestion here but should moderators or regulators or members with good relationships be allowed to post links or pics on EB, so that way there's no upset or confusion.

Um, no. It's been made clear that these confidential pictures are not supposed to be seen by most people. For the EB staff to host, upload, link to, or otherwise spread confidential pictures would be very poor behavior.

[Peppermint_M]

Hi, just to let everyone know:

In the past EB was known for leaking waaay loads of information, frontpaging confidential pictures and the like. This was a bad thing and nearly resulted in lawyers making an appearance (and all that could possibly result in). We moved back from that. Later, the posting of deeplinked pictures was tolerated bar specific requests for removal. Recently we have had to stop pictures of any sort, just links and these links have also been requested for removal on occasion.

This is just such an occasion, so please refrain from posting links to these pictures.

Staff do not host and discuss confidential pictures, EB may recieve a press release for certain sets a little ahead of the official date, just as any related website would, so that we can prepare to reveal them at the set time. That is the limit to our involvment with advance images.

Please remain respectful to the rules and the request so EB can keep being awesome and you can keep using this great site!

[Lobot]

I've said it before, but I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by the new sets, and I don't think that I'm alone in a, well, 'meh....' response. The range appears to be mediocre, at best, unless they've got a gem hidden away such as another UCS Star Destroyer, or similar

I just hope that these are really 'prelims', and just possibly that TLG has noted the reaction and needs to do some serious re-designs so the final versions will be in a different league!! If not, 2014 is going to be a inexpensive year for me, and I don't want it to be!

[legocaptainrexfan]

I've said it before, but I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by the new sets, and I don't think that I'm alone in a, well, 'meh....' response. The range appears to be mediocre, at best, unless they've got a gem hidden away such as another UCS Star Destroyer, or similar

I just hope that these are really 'prelims', and just possibly that TLG has noted the reaction and needs to do some serious re-designs so the final versions will be in a different league!! If not, 2014 is going to be a inexpensive year for me, and I don't want it to be!

Am I the only one who thinks this line is brilliant, yes I know we don't get a boga with the wheelbike, but we still have the summer in which Lego may give us one maybe with a commander Cody so we can re-enact order 66. Also the new guns may be alright, we can't judge the guns by the pre lims.

Edited August 26, 2013 by legocaptainrexfan

[Darth Malgus]

Am I the only one who thinks this line is brilliant, yes I know we don't get a boga with the wheelbike, but we still have the summer in which Lego may give us one maybe with a commander Cody so we can re-enact order 66. Also the new guns may be alright, we can't judge the guns by the pre lims.

you mayy be one of the few, i think its an under whelming lineup when you consider the current release.

[Alfadas]

What? Are there new guns? I didn't see them on the pics on Facebook?

[lightningtiger]

What? Are there new guns? I didn't see them on the pics on Facebook?

Suggestion.....Goggle Image search the topic.....they are there....all those watermarked images.

So no need for links or anything like that.....just go look for them.

Hopefully we can talk about the sets and not the reasons why and what for of Lego not wanting the general public seeing pictures of sets early.

Though remember a few years back and the A-6 Jedi Shuttle.....they changed the minifigs around in the final set.

Hence things might change again.....Lego doesn't want to let their fans down do they ?

[darththeling]

Has anyone ever calculated the ratio per wave of entirely new designs to rehashes? This most recently leaked slew of images seems to pretty heavily sway towards rehashes but I'm wondering if it isn't always pretty much the same.

BTW, I can't believe the ep2 wave came and went and they didn't bother with the Speeder Chase rehash (Zam Wessel vs. Obi Wan and Anakin) because that was one of the best ATOC sets in the wave when it came out.

Lego doesn't want to let their fans down, but that's a close second to being able to recoup and profit from selling core sets (X-Wings, Falcons, etc) to kids.

[Cyberbricker]

Am I the only one who thinks this line is brilliant, yes I know we don't get a boga with the wheelbike, but we still have the summer in which Lego may give us one maybe with a commander Cody so we can re-enact order 66. Also the new guns may be alright, we can't judge the guns by the pre lims.

You are not, as i was in the dark ages back in 2005, so i missed all of these sets. We also get a great group of battle packs and some new never seen before commanders and clone troopers. Only thing i don't like are the new guns.

I think its a 7.5-8/10 for this wave.

Edited August 26, 2013 by Cyberbricker

[Alfadas]

Well, I checked google, but I don't see new guns. I just see the guns we are used to.

I do like this wave, for me it is a 8.5/10, I really like it!

[lightningtiger]

Well, I checked google, but I don't see new guns. I just see the guns we are used to.

I do like this wave, for me it is a 8.5/10, I really like it!

Oh, they are there......a bit of a fuzzy close up of an ARC trooper holding the new stud firing weapons.

[Alfadas]

Oh, they are there......a bit of a fuzzy close up of an ARC trooper holding the new stud firing weapons.

Ok, I found it, but I don't like the gun. The ARC troopers are great though, I really like them. The colors are great!

[Faefrost]

Has anyone ever calculated the ratio per wave of entirely new designs to rehashes? This most recently leaked slew of images seems to pretty heavily sway towards rehashes but I'm wondering if it isn't always pretty much the same.

BTW, I can't believe the ep2 wave came and went and they didn't bother with the Speeder Chase rehash (Zam Wessel vs. Obi Wan and Anakin) because that was one of the best ATOC sets in the wave when it came out.

Lego doesn't want to let their fans down, but that's a close second to being able to recoup and profit from selling core sets (X-Wings, Falcons, etc) to kids.

Not calculated it, but you can probably make an informed guess that years in which there is not a corresponding source of new material will, at this stage of the game, result in a greater number of rehashes. We are in a dead period this wave. CW ended, the new Rebels has not hit yet, and episode VII is looming in the background. Sales drop off when there is not a corresponding show or movie. Plus it's a e really down economy, so we don't get a lot new this time.

[Fives]

Oh, they are there......a bit of a fuzzy close up of an ARC trooper holding the new stud firing weapons.

Ok, I found it, but I don't like the gun. The ARC troopers are great though, I really like them. The colors are great!

What ARC troopers? I thought we were only getting Kasshyyyk troopers and Neyo this wave (as well as a regular trooper with the Turbo Tank mini)

[Tariq j]

Are we getting any new SBD? TLG really need to fill up the hole at the back.

[Artizan]

I just want to remind people how much sets and figures can change before the official announcements, just look at these 2011 prelims:

http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/29676/1283876560m_SPLASH.jpg

http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/29676/1283876554m_SPLASH.jpg

http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/29676/1283876564m_SPLASH.jpg

Edit by WhiteFang: Removed the deeplinks of preliminary images.

Edited August 27, 2013 by WhiteFang
Removed deeplink

[Cyberbricker]

What ARC troopers? I thought we were only getting Kasshyyyk troopers and Neyo this wave (as well as a regular trooper with the Turbo Tank mini)

He is probably referring to the phase II helmet, but indeed its not an ARC trooper.

[Alfadas]

Yeah, indeed I was referring to that helmet, sorry for the confusion .