Mafia Mafia: Day Two - Lynch Lunch Hour!

[Rufus]

Magical Pill please.

[fhomess]

You what?? No, damn it people. We have to treat them like real votes. If you want to un-vote, please do a fake un-vote. It works best if we run it with the actual tally like a blueprint for the actual vote. Don't abuse the fake system I made up and want to control. Don't do it!

Help, help! I'm being repressed!

[Purpearljellyblob]

I will go for lucky number 16! Deep Space Pill

[Zepher]

The Pills

1) Hunter’s Pill

2) Light saber Pill

3) Big Red Science Pill (LegoDad)

4) Infectious Pill

5) Magical Pill (Rufus)

6) Cursed Pill (PirateDave84)

7) Alto Pill

8) Pill of Valhalla (KielDaMan)

9) Riot Pill

10) Mystery Pill

11) Mystical Pill (fhommes)

12) Bobblyhead Pill

13) Old Fashion Pill (Clanure)

14) Rum

15) A Pearl

16) Deep Space Pill (Purpearljellyblob)

17) The Royalty Pill (Esurient)

18) Fairy Tale Pill (Hinckley)

19) Pill from the Dickhead Galaxy

20) Pill from the ZubZub System

[Piratedave84]

HELLO!!!! Hello-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo!

*As is voice echoes through the empty room Dave slowly backs out

[Bob]

I'll try the Riot Pill today.

[jimmynick]

I'll try Rum, please.

[jimmynick]

Good ol' tree stump wrote a post about BONAD's voting yesterday (I also noted BONAD's behaviour) which seems to have been forgotten by the Doctor and the Male Lover when arguing Lynch all Lurkers:

I'm a stump. I understood that: my point was to illustrate how misguided it was to lynch someone for "defending" (re: agreeing with/arguing devil's advocate) when in fact doing so is fairly common. That must have been lost in translation.

Your first vote (albeit a fake one) was for the Virgin (Clanure) because "he's a bit odd and sticks out to me for some reason". Your second (and final) vote was for the Serial Killer (walter kovacs), it was the last vote of the day, it was the final nail in the SK's coffin, and you similarly supported it by saying that he rubbed you the wrong way. That stumps me the wrong way. I'm curious what seemingly put you off about both of the people you voted for, because the Usurper (TrumpetKing) has a point that bandwagoning and sealing the deal for a dead townie is a scumzo play. "He seems scummy" will only get someone so far when it comes to justifying a vote.

Inactivity is the slow killer of town, so yes we should probably look at Adam as our secondary lynch today.

This is a great analysis Doctor. I initially voted for the Stump yesterday, and I think I may very well do the same today.

Tree Stump is trying to catch scum. He's your prime target. Are you two protecting The Cultist? Are you two also trying to catch scum?

I'll have the Old Fashioned Pill, Please.

And while I'm not a seasoned vet, I don't like the idea of using your vote as a *poke*, especially when we only have one un-vote per day.

The Royalty Pill

Stop being so pill-popping and antisocial! What is your take on policy-lynching inactive players (hint: we shouldn't)? What do you think about the people intending to vote for the Tree Stump again? What do you think of BONAD?

*POKE*

I, for one, favour Pie (for quietly allowing the lynch to go through) and BONAD (for hammering SK) for the lynches today.

[Clanure]

Stop being so pill-popping and antisocial! What is your take on policy-lynching inactive players (hint: we shouldn't)? What do you think about the people intending to vote for the Tree Stump again? What do you think of BONAD?

*POKE*

I, for one, favour Pie (for quietly allowing the lynch to go through) and BONAD (for hammering SK) for the lynches today.

I absolutely agree that we shouldn't policy-lynch inactive players. If we can't elicit some type of response through the day thread, then that's what NA's (investigations and other such) are for. I honestly don't have feelings one way or another for the stump. Sure, he's inactive, but not as inactive as some and his posts are ok. That could all be part of his scummy plan though. Yay, it's a WIFOM moment. BONAD doesn't actually strike me as scum. Sure, he poked me yesterday and I didn't like it, but I don't think scum would poke someone out of the blue without provocation.

[CMP]

One Pill from the ZubZub Galaxy.

I, for one, favour Pie (for quietly allowing the lynch to go through) and BONAD (for hammering SK) for the lynches today.

Scummy if I don't help the vote, scummy if you do help the vote...I've already explained mine.

Anyway....I've found someone I believe to be reasonably suspicious.

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down).

Not very many pings going off so far, but I can say we've scratched nearly all the usual Day 1 subjects off.

Too much role-play

Vote for the host

Random vote debate

Vote for the quiet ones

Ignore the rules and speculate

Promise to read the thread and never come back with suspicions

The obvious one for a lynch is jamesn, since he's the "First Day Lynch" character, but let's think a bit outside the box on this one. Nothing has really picked up to me, so I'm going to reread the day thread a bunch of times until something inane pops up.

Sorry Mr. Blacked Out Guy, but if I had a log for every time I heard this statement, I could build myself a cabin.

He makes a point about how we've had somebody accused for each usual Day One reason, then happily adds another to the list. Constructive. I'm concerned how much he acts like these cases are too frivolous to be taken seriously, when usually it's where the Day One lynch starts out. I guess that works into how he never voted.

I whole heartedly disagree. If a defense is made in order to stop a bad lynch than it is indeed reasonable to expect a defense even on day 1. It is always better to save a potential townie from a lynch based on bad logic than to stand by and watch it happen which is exactly all a scum team needs to do. Now I don't necessarily agree with the Snake Charmer's defense of the SK, but I have no problem defending the Serial Killer myself as I feel it would be a wasted lynch. Yes his bad logic pinged my radar at the beginning and as Role-Cop stated people seemed to make things even more confusing by continuing on his bad logic train of thought.

Sorry I spoke too soon before all my thoughts were collected. Continuing on, if we look at his (the Serial Killer's) statement, whether he is role-playing (as the Role-Cop suggested) or is speaking in all confused seriousness, I can't see a scum making such a statement. Unless of course he is a scum trying to confuse everyone else, in which case he picked an awful point to confuse people on as a quick glance at the rules of the world make the truth abundantly clear. Additionally if he was intentionally trying to confuse people why follow up on the initial confusing statement so quickly to try and "clarify" his initial statement. Doesn't add up to me and thus I don't see it worth pursuing.

His first point here has merit...he's willing to bet the SK is town and isn't afraid to say it. He's either being pretty blatantly and dangerously sincere (this is an easy thing to get lynched for early on), or he knows the SK is town because he's scum and he'll cash in when he's lynched.

A little inconsistent here aren't we? First you feel fine following the Cop and now when some individuals start bringing up his change of behavior you feel comfortable hiding in someone's else suspicions and placing a metagame vote?

Also, you're criticizing those who are at least attempting to analyze the given posts? You may think it's scummy to be helpful but I'm of the opinion that the more people that talk, theorize, and debate the more things eventually become clearer. A lot can happen in 50 posts if you pay attention and your assertion that people shouldn't say anything analytical based on 50 Day 1's posts seems like a futile scummy attempt to mask your own lack of contributions.

He's accusing PirateDave here, in case it's not clear. Well, 'accusing' is a pretty strong word. He's making reasonable observations about how useless all this is to the town, and then doesn't pursue them or mention them today, which, well, casual observations don't get us anywhere, you say here yourself in-depth analysis does. You sound like you think he's suspicious, why not analyze it some more? Trying to look helpful so that you can fall back on him as a suspect when somebody wonders why you didn't vote?

For completeness sake let's not forget about the life saver pills and the JOATS. I'd be interested in doing a little more analysis on the timing of the votes yesterday and the switching back and forth. Personally, I already outlined my reasoning of not thinking the SK was scummy and by the time I got on the cop had said that voting was closed. Given that the SK turned out town and it was a fairly contested lynch, I'd wager that the Cultist is worth a second look given the fact that it would have been easier for the scum just to join in one of the bandwagons and finish off either of the potential lynches if they were both town, which the scum would know.

Now he says he'll do some analysis on the votes, but the Doctor got there first. He also implies that the scum were probably quick to jump on the bandwagons, which is a good point for someone to make when you didn't vote at all.

[Rufus]

Good ol' tree stump wrote a post about BONAD's voting yesterday (I also noted BONAD's behaviour) which seems to have been forgotten by the Doctor and the Male Lover when arguing Lynch all Lurkers:

This is quite possibly the most insightful post I've seen all day.

Tree Stump is trying to catch scum. He's your prime target. Are you two protecting The Cultist? Are you two also trying to catch scum?

Two things stand out to me from the quoted posts from Doctor and Male. The Doctor recommends Stumpy for 'our secondary lynch', but I can't for the life of me find whom he advocates for our primary lynch. What an odd thing to do.

The second is that in the Doctor's original analysis, he hasn't bolded the 'Ties Vote' for Male. This was a highly suspicious vote, especially given that Male's reason for changing his vote to the Cultist was to avoid a no-lynch. Dave takes pains to point out that First Day Lynch's vote was suspicious for tying the vote six minutes after the preceding vote, while seeming to gloss over the fact that Male did exactly the same a full fifteen minutes after the previous vote.

It is interesting that this push to lynch stumpy completely ignores the fact that Cultist has yet to speak today despite having been online about 7 hours ago. Having said this, if their goal is to protect the Cultist, Male's vote yesterday was a huge risk if it were for a team-mate. If they are scum, I suspect their goal is simply to push us in the direction of any townie. I agree with your take on Stumpy here.

I, for one, favour Pie (for quietly allowing the lynch to go through) and BONAD (for hammering SK) for the lynches today.

Bob didn't hammer SK, PGO did. Pie's vote is certainly a safe one for scum, who would want to spread their votes around to make analysis difficult. Bob's is less so. I really don't think scum would want to risk being the 'hammer' vote on a townie, and that probably includes untying the vote in either direction during the later stages. If Pie and Bob are both scum, it's likely they would decide to spread their votes around, which could explain Pie's reluctance to join the bandwagon. Irrespective of their vote choices, I think scum would prefer to vote either early, or after the lynch is decided, but if forced to vote in the middle of a close-run lynch, would probably prefer not to push the lynch in either direction.

Note that this is irrespective of the affiliation of Cultist. Dave voted for def when the votes were tied 3-3; LegoMale leveled the votes to 4-4. Neither would want to be responsible for pushing the vote towards a townie (as I have said, if LegoMale is scum it might imply that Cultist isn't, but that's not concrete). Of the four, I actually find LegoDad and Dave to be the more suspicious, followed by Pie, then Bob, but they all deserve scrutiny.

[Rufus]

He's accusing PirateDave here, in case it's not clear. Well, 'accusing' is a pretty strong word. He's making reasonable observations about how useless all this is to the town, and then doesn't pursue them or mention them today, which, well, casual observations don't get us anywhere, you say here yourself in-depth analysis does. You sound like you think he's suspicious, why not analyze it some more? Trying to look helpful so that you can fall back on him as a suspect when somebody wonders why you didn't vote?

What is your opinion on PirateDave, whom the Witch is accusing?

[CMP]

What is your opinion on PirateDave, whom the Witch is accusing?

I can't figure out why he thought his best bet was to metagame the vote yesterday - maybe just for lack of a better suspect - and he spent the better part of that day screwing around. But he did go and make the whole voting spreadsheet thing today. He seems eager to help but can't find a way to do so so early on. That would be a townread, but seeing as how I can't recall him being scum at any point recently....

[Piratedave84]

This is quite possibly the most insightful post I've seen all day.

Two things stand out to me from the quoted posts from Doctor and Male. The Doctor recommends Stumpy for 'our secondary lynch', but I can't for the life of me find whom he advocates for our primary lynch. What an odd thing to do.

The second is that in the Doctor's original analysis, he hasn't bolded the 'Ties Vote' for Male. This was a highly suspicious vote, especially given that Male's reason for changing his vote to the Cultist was to avoid a no-lynch. Dave takes pains to point out that First Day Lynch's vote was suspicious for tying the vote six minutes after the preceding vote, while seeming to gloss over the fact that Male did exactly the same a full fifteen minutes after the previous vote.

It is interesting that this push to lynch stumpy completely ignores the fact that Cultist has yet to speak today despite having been online about 7 hours ago. Having said this, if their goal is to protect the Cultist, Male's vote yesterday was a huge risk if it were for a team-mate. If they are scum, I suspect their goal is simply to push us in the direction of any townie. I agree with your take on Stumpy here.

Bob didn't hammer SK, PGO did. Pie's vote is certainly a safe one for scum, who would want to spread their votes around to make analysis difficult. Bob's is less so. I really don't think scum would want to risk being the 'hammer' vote on a townie, and that probably includes untying the vote in either direction during the later stages. If Pie and Bob are both scum, it's likely they would decide to spread their votes around, which could explain Pie's reluctance to join the bandwagon. Irrespective of their vote choices, I think scum would prefer to vote either early, or after the lynch is decided, but if forced to vote in the middle of a close-run lynch, would probably prefer not to push the lynch in either direction.

Note that this is irrespective of the affiliation of Cultist. Dave voted for def when the votes were tied 3-3; LegoMale leveled the votes to 4-4. Neither would want to be responsible for pushing the vote towards a townie (as I have said, if LegoMale is scum it might imply that Cultist isn't, but that's not concrete). Of the four, I actually find LegoDad and Dave to be the more suspicious, followed by Pie, then Bob, but they all deserve scrutiny.

I'm sorry for forgetting to bold one of the actions; it was not intentional!!

My analysis may not be spot-on; it is my first attempt at producing such a complex piece of info, so I apologize if I missed some details.

I said this before and will say it again; I am not pushing for a lynch of the Stump, I am saying that lurkers should speak up. I did however imply that I have no issues in lynching a lurker; the Stump being one.

I can't figure out why he thought his best bet was to metagame the vote yesterday - maybe just for lack of a better suspect - and he spent the better part of that day screwing around. But he did go and make the whole voting spreadsheet thing today. He seems eager to help but can't find a way to do so so early on. That would be a townread, but seeing as how I can't recall him being scum at any point recently....

When was the last time you have seen Def being so ... Sedated. He usually comes up with analysis, entices participation, creates discussions and flat out accuses people from the get-go; it was not the case yesterday.

[Tamamono]

I'll take the Pill from the Dickhead Galaxy.

You cut out the part where I mentioned I had been absent for a lot of the day, which kind of factored into that. It was the only case I had been following up to that point, and even then, when I looked back, everyone just seemed to let it drop in favor of the Cultist and the Serial Killer, something I thought was odd. Maybe it was just people trying to start things going on Day One? Perhaps. I'm still inclined to keep the Usurper in mind as a suspect.

I'll give you the part about being gone; that'd be a valid excuse. However, "It was the only case I had been following up to that point, and even then, when I looked back, everyone just seemed to let it drop in favor of the Cultist and the Serial Killer, something I thought was odd." suggests that you did know that SK/Cultist were the main lynches, and yet you still voted for Usurper.

Seeing as how I don't find the Cultist all that suspicious, I think a townie would've been lynched no matter where I placed my vote. That's just a consequence of not voting until so late, and I apologize for it. The SK got lynched for being a little suspicious and then not being around to address the suspicions, and it looks like the Cultist might go the same way (though he's had the time to post a lot of fluff, it seems). Now with time to review it, I don't think I would've voted for either of them anyway, and I don't think that'll change today.

What about Cultist do you find "not suspicious"? You say he was the same way as the SK, yet you say the SK had been suspicious... This isn't adding up.

I believe it is important to fess up when one makes a mistake, so I'll admit that I screwed up here. I really wasn't comfortable with the vote for the SK, but felt he was the best we had. I misread the rules and believed that we had to vote for someone. I'm not meaning this to excuse my actions, but more to explain why I voted the way I did. It is unfortunate that I voted when I did though, as I truly wasn't aware at the time that I was creating/breaking a tie.

This seems forced, especially the first line. Like, I realize the intention of the post, but the way it was phrased came off as super forced.

Might just be inexperience, but something to note for the future I guess.

Tree stump (Adam) -> Did not bother to vote; stepped in picked a pill and steped out; made 2 posts with some substance; nothing helpful; called 2 votes + 1 fake vote a bandwagon; -> Should be taken out for lack of participation

The Witch (Waterbrick Down)-> Did not bother to vote; made several alelfgations against players but in the end did not vote;

Snake Charmer (Darth potato) -> Did not bother to vote;

That's it for now

Tree stump/Witch would be cool ideas for lynches. Snake Charmer didn't look so good yesterday, but seems a bit more sincere today.

You're also here trying to defend those who tied the vote. Which of your teammates tied the vote yesterday and now have heat on them because of it? Also... "it appears we don't need a majority to lynch"... were you in doubt of this yesterday? I think you're trying to pretend like you didn't know something that was made abundantly clear to all of us, and even discussed in detail during the lynch. I'll add a Fakevote: Male Lover for this post.

Definitely a good point; Male Lover feels off his town game too. He'd be an interesting lynch, although I feel like it might be better to clear/kill him through night action.

So far we have

Jester/Witch/Stump/Male Lover/Cultist as my main lynch candidates. What does everyone think between these?

I'll have the Old Fashioned Pill, Please.

And while I'm not a seasoned vet, I don't like the idea of using your vote as a *poke*, especially when we only have one un-vote per day.

What I find interesting is that you took the same pill as Cultist took yesterday. Hmm.

[Waterbrick Down]

I'll go ahead with the Hunter's Pill as it reminds me of another life I once lived.

Moving on to answer the Jester who I think has nicely summarized the concerns of my behavior.

He makes a point about how we've had somebody accused for each usual Day One reason, then happily adds another to the list. Constructive. I'm concerned how much he acts like these cases are too frivolous to be taken seriously, when usually it's where the Day One lynch starts out. I guess that works into how he never voted.

I had no intention of calling them frivelous, only making the observation of how we had covered all the usual attempts at figuring out a Day 1 lynch. Nothing more nothing less. Concerning not being able to vote, I'm with the female lover in that the cop stated that by the time I arrived on the scene voting had just finished up.

His first point here has merit...he's willing to bet the SK is town and isn't afraid to say it. He's either being pretty blatantly and dangerously sincere (this is an easy thing to get lynched for early on), or he knows the SK is town because he's scum and he'll cash in when he's lynched.

I don't like seeing potential members of the town being lynched on bad logic, which is what the SK lynch ended up being. I still hold that it is every single townies duty to make sure they make a correct lynch, which requires analyzing the entirety of a case and acting upon it, not pursuing something just because it is easy.

He's accusing PirateDave here, in case it's not clear. Well, 'accusing' is a pretty strong word. He's making reasonable observations about how useless all this is to the town, and then doesn't pursue them or mention them today, which, well, casual observations don't get us anywhere, you say here yourself in-depth analysis does. You sound like you think he's suspicious, why not analyze it some more? Trying to look helpful so that you can fall back on him as a suspect when somebody wonders why you didn't vote?

The doctor was the first of the inconsistancies that I picked up on. His flip-flop attitude as it concerned the cop and his insistence that Day 1 analysis is futile was disconcerting to me and I had no problem in calling him out on it.

Now he says he'll do some analysis on the votes, but the Doctor got there first. He also implies that the scum were probably quick to jump on the bandwagons, which is a good point for someone to make when you didn't vote at all.

The doctor has proven himself slightly more useful and not as discouraging as he was yesterday and has thus alleviated some of my initial suspicions for the time being. Is there any particular reason you can think of a scum not joining a bandwagon on a Day 1 lynch, when nearly anyone can be excused due to as some would hold a scarcity of concrete evidence?

[Bob]

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down)

I've heard through the grapevine something interesting about the Witch.

[Tamamono]

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down)

I've heard through the grapevine something interesting about the Witch.

Oh..?

[Waterbrick Down]

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down)

I've heard through the grapevine something interesting about the Witch.

I didn't know grapevines could grow in off-white carpet. I guess I'll wait and see as something apparently seems to be brewing behind the scenes. Speaking of brewing shouldn't that be my job?

[Clanure]

What I find interesting is that you took the same pill as Cultist took yesterday. Hmm.

And you'll notice it was my first choice yesterday. It was available today so I took it, nothing more, nothing less.

[Piratedave84]

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down)

I've heard through the grapevine something interesting about the Witch.

Please enlighten us!

[mostlytechnic]

A Pearl for my pill today please

trying to catch up, but it'll have to wait for later tonight to get more indepth. However,

[CMP]

When was the last time you have seen Def being so ... Sedated. He usually comes up with analysis, entices participation, creates discussions and flat out accuses people from the get-go; it was not the case yesterday.

I know, and I found that pretty off too. I'm just surprised you would so readily vote for him over it when there were other suspects on the table.

I'll give you the part about being gone; that'd be a valid excuse. However, "It was the only case I had been following up to that point, and even then, when I looked back, everyone just seemed to let it drop in favor of the Cultist and the Serial Killer, something I thought was odd." suggests that you did know that SK/Cultist were the main lynches, and yet you still voted for Usurper.

What about Cultist do you find "not suspicious"? You say he was the same way as the SK, yet you say the SK had been suspicious... This isn't adding up.

I didn't totally ignore it, do you think I would actually place a vote without at least skimming the topic? I just didn't examine every single post. I knew they were the main lynches, I just didn't feel comfortable having so little information to vote one of them on. I didn't follow the case closely, but I had a general idea of what was going on, and I didn't think it was as suspicious as everyone else did.

If the SK hadn't been a little suspicious, he wouldn't've been lynched. I'm not implying that I found him suspicious, if that's what you're thinking.

I had no intention of calling them frivelous, only making the observation of how we had covered all the usual attempts at figuring out a Day 1 lynch. Nothing more nothing less. Concerning not being able to vote, I'm with the female lover in that the cop stated that by the time I arrived on the scene voting had just finished up.

I don't like seeing potential members of the town being lynched on bad logic, which is what the SK lynch ended up being. I still hold that it is every single townies duty to make sure they make a correct lynch, which requires analyzing the entirety of a case and acting upon it, not pursuing something just because it is easy.

The doctor was the first of the inconsistancies that I picked up on. His flip-flop attitude as it concerned the cop and his insistence that Day 1 analysis is futile was disconcerting to me and I had no problem in calling him out on it.

The doctor has proven himself slightly more useful and not as discouraging as he was yesterday and has thus alleviated some of my initial suspicions for the time being. Is there any particular reason you can think of a scum not joining a bandwagon on a Day 1 lynch, when nearly anyone can be excused due to as some would hold a scarcity of concrete evidence?

I know, but it's so utterly pointless that it just seems like fluff. We can't ignore cases just because it's typical for Day One. The second part is far from true. The post where you examined the Doctor's behavior was a perfect time to vote.

I can agree with that. It doesn't mean we can just do nothing when the time comes to vote. At least when we lynch a townie, there's a lot of behavior around it we can examine rather than all of us standing around doing nothing. I don't like lynching townies either, but the vote is our only tool.

I can see that. But that's all you did. Maybe it was too late on to do anything else about it, but pointing out something wrong with someone's behavior and just leaving it there doesn't help much. I can think of plenty of reasons. Distancing yourself from those who lynched a townie, keeping your nose clean when townies go back to examine the bandwagons, splitting up the scum votes...hell, people are right to suspect me based on that, that's just what I did in Harriet Slutter, though now it's for other reasons.

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down)

I've heard through the grapevine something interesting about the Witch.

Man, can I call 'em or what??

But I'd like to hear more on what that's about.

[Adam]

Walk up to the stump and this is what I see:

Everybody stumps and they staring at me.

It appears that the Doctor (Piratedave84) and the Loverboy (LegoDad) have raised concerns about my relative inactivity. It's true that I've been one of (if not the) least active player thus far, and for that I apologize. However, "policy-lynching" me (or any quiet player) is ridiculous, which several other people have since explained. In fact, in one humorously hypocritical post, the Doctor demonstrates this argument.

I don;t think nothing ... he gave us nothing to go on! We have all lynched players for inactivity that were more vocal than him!

Inactivity is the slow killer of town, so yes we should probably look at Adam as our secondary lynch today.

Speaking of activity; there is a saying that "less is more", which I think is an approapriate way to behave in mafia.

Now can the saying be inverted to say "more is less"? In your case probably; you posted 40 times yesterday, the next more vocal person was the Female Lover with 26 interactions (some were actually vote tallies, so let's say she posted 23 times). You were twice as active as other individuals were but several of your posts merely echoed thoughts formulated by others; less is more, remember it and quit hiding behind your high post count!

Well, there you go. It's certainly true that a quiet player can impede the town through his or her silence and that the scum will generally try to fly under the radar, but ultimately the content of a person's posts matters more than quantity. You yourself just said this very same thing when confronted with your relatively small post count!

No, not in particular. The goon is merely another person who isn't terribly present at the moment. We could policy-lynch everyone, but we'd be screwed then.

You guys are definitely right in that I should be more active. However, there are plenty of people who have been legitimately flying under the radar, posting unhelpful comments and then retreating (I'll get back to this later in my post), and furthermore, there are people who have been growing more and more suspicious as a result of their actions, not their inaction (again, I'll touch on this shortly).

Hence the reasoning for not actualy voting; I am suggesting a potential lynch, no voting was done nor do I intend on casting my vote on the stump first-thing.

I don't know, you seemed pretty eager to use me as the secondary lynch:

And yes, policy-lynch the Stump!

As the First Day Lynch (jamesn) pointed out, I (along with several others) find the BONAD (Bob) suspicious. All I asked was that he respond to some of the allegations leveled at him, but when he did post, he said this:

Fakevote: The Witch (Waterbrick Down)

I've heard through the grapevine something interesting about the Witch.

This is emblematic of my problem with the BONAD. He doesn't address concerns leveled against him, and when he does post, he says little of substance. This is his third post where he throws a blind accusation at someone and then fails to support it with actual evidence or reasoning (the first two being his vote for the Virgin (Clanure) and then his vote for the Serial Killer (walter kovacs)).

The Female Lover is suggesting that we treat fake votes as real votes, and since there are one or two other players that have pinged for me, I will maintain a firm POKE POKE POKE POKE POKE.

The second is that in the Doctor's original analysis, he hasn't bolded the 'Ties Vote' for Male. This was a highly suspicious vote, especially given that Male's reason for changing his vote to the Cultist was to avoid a no-lynch. Dave takes pains to point out that First Day Lynch's vote was suspicious for tying the vote six minutes after the preceding vote, while seeming to gloss over the fact that Male did exactly the same a full fifteen minutes after the previous vote.

It is interesting that this push to lynch stumpy completely ignores the fact that Cultist has yet to speak today despite having been online about 7 hours ago. Having said this, if their goal is to protect the Cultist, Male's vote yesterday was a huge risk if it were for a team-mate. If they are scum, I suspect their goal is simply to push us in the direction of any townie. I agree with your take on Stumpy here.

This touches on a prediction I have, that the scum will focus on using the secondary lynch to get rid of a townie. I would imagine that people would be less suspicious of the lynchers of the second person, especially since you theoretically won't need that many votes to confirm who the second lynch is (unless the votes are all tied up by the end of the day, which based on yesterday is a real possibility). Meanwhile, using inactivity as the basis for a vote gives the lyncher some plausible deniability ("hey, I didn't have strong feelings towards any candidate, so I thought it would be wise to just vote for the quietest person").

This issue with the Cultist deserves more attention than "woops, forgot to bold". I'll throw a POKE towards the Cultist because I would like to see him respond to the concerns that people have raised about him.

BONAD (BOB): POKEPOKEPOKE

It looks like I'm stuck with the Light Saber Pill.

[Kadabra]

This seems like a bit of an exaggeration considering your vote for the Cultist was based on a single wishy-washy post. Just a few posts earlier, you were ready to vote for someone else.

A bit defensive? The Cult Leader hasn't accused you of anything today. In fact, I've been watching for it as he made a few comments about it, but the only thing he's said about you today was that he accused you yesterday. Guilty conscience?

It was based on his wishy washy post, but he then became defensive and sort of hypocritical.