LDD MOC: Glencoe Imperial & Pacific motive power

[Murdoch17]

As a starting point I want to thank Scotnick for the two LXF files and pictures that strated this design idea, plus a big thanks to Anthony Sava for creating his wonderful building instructions. (Unless it's ok with Scotnick, I will not be providing a LXf file for his two engines, as it is not mine to give. If he wants me to upload it, I will do so.) As for Anthony Sava's 4-6-0 steam engine design, under NO cirumstances will I give up that file. If any file is to be released, it will not included this engine. If you want your own, I suggest gettiing the instructions from his BrickLink store and makeing it yourself. Here is the link to his store (and the correct model): http://www.bricklink...itemID=18041489

Anyway first on the agenda is this steam tram. It's been modfied from Scotnick's version:

Engine #09 is a C53 steam tram designed by James Holden and built in 1910 at Stratford Works for the Great Eastern Railway (GER). The engine was originally number 130 and, after the grouping of 1923, came into the fold of the London & North Eastern Railway (LNER). From there it was engine 7130, and after the nationalization of 1947, it was renumbered as British Railways locomotive 68220. It was withdrawn from service in 1953 and was sold to Glencoe Imperial & Pacific shortly after being withdrawn. It was then numbered 09, and has since been joined by two modern copies, built in 1960.

In reality, this 100% buildable engine is a 7 stud wide model originally produced by ScotNick. The locomotive this is based off of (GER #130) really existed, and was scrapped around 1953. There are no more of this type in existance anywhere. This picture is an inside view of #09.

Engine # 26 is a 0-6-0ST (Saddle Tank) steam engine built in 1918 as part of an order of 14 by the Hunslet Engine Company for use on the Glencoe, Imperial & Pacific. The twelve engines were numbered 26 - 40 and wroked well until 1959, when Engine #31 was destroyed in a bizzare road crosssing accident involving a chicken-carrying pick-up truck, a flat tire, a blind curve and a freight car loaded with hot tar.

In the real world, this engine type was a one-off, having been designed as a mish-mash of diffirent designs. It is called the Hudswell Clarke/ Kitson No. 5459 "Austin I" hybrid. (Thanks for the correction, Scotnick!)

ScotNick did a very good job of recreating this engine, (in 7 wide no less!) which I subsequently modified into what you see here. There is a inside of the cab, (as you can see in this pciture) This engine uses Big Ben Bricks medium flanged and unflanged drivers.

Steam tank (T) Locomotive #17 was originally built in 1904 at Stratford Works in the UK as part of the S56 class. It was designed by James Holden and built for the Great Eastern Railway as part of an order of 12 engines. The order was later backed down to 10 engines, leaving the as-yet unnumbered engine sitting on a side track along with another one of it's unwanted sister engines. Both were bought for a small amount in 1906, and were repaired of any damage and cleaned up within 2 months, ready for work with their new owners: the Glencoe Imperial & Pacific Railway (GI&P). The engine was numbered 17, while the sister was numbered 18. In 1962, British Railways sold three more of this type to the GI&P, and were renumbered engines 19, 20, & 21.

In real life, this engine class only has one lone survivor: Great Eastern Railway no. 87 (London & North Eastern Railway 7087, 8633, British Railways 68633) It was designed by the same man who designed the C53 steam tram (James Holden) This LEGO version is of my own design, and uses Big Ben Bricks medium flanged and unflanged drivers.

Built by Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1918, engine #66 is one of an order of ten 4-6-0 engines that were bought by the Glencoe Imperial & Pacific Railway. (GI&P) This 4-6-0 (four leading, six driving, zero trailing) features a tan with black paint scheme and a lower-than-normal cab. The engine burns coal and has a top speed of 90 miles per hour. Since 1985, engine #66 has been on passenger duty, pulling trainloads of tourists and commuters to and fro on the main line.

This engine uses Big Ben Bricks medium drivers (both types). It is one of the the only American GI&P engines I have, (the others being British) which is funny becuase the original railway was supposed to be in the middle of the USA, near St. Louis, Missouri!

Built in 1962 as a Class 09 diesel-electric locomotive by Darlington Works for British Railways as unit #1200. With a higher top speed than the related Class 08 diesel, this engine hauled freight (and sometimes passenger trains) on the Southern Region of British Railways until 1978. Engines #1200, 1201, &1202 were sold to Glencoe, Imperial & Pacific Railway at that time, and were renumberd as units 81, 82, & 83. They differ slightly from the the Class 09's bought by Brick Railway Systems by having a lower roof and third rear light, as modified by British Railways in late 1969.

This is a modified version of Brick Railway Systems unit 1138, and a extreme mod of fellow EuroBricks user Chromenight's British Railways Class 08 model, from way back in 2010.

Built in 1926 by Baldwin Locomotive Works for Glencoe, Imperial, & Pacific Railway, engine #103 was the ninth to last engine in an order of 26 engines. The engines were numbered 92 - 112 and almost all are still used to this day. (Numbers 92 - 96 are being used as spare parts for the other engines.)

Anthony Sava's 2-8-0 model instructions was the original source for this model. Altough I have modfied the model, the LDD file for this engine will NOT be given out, as I do not own the rights to it. If you want your own model instructions, I suggest you check out SRW Locomotive Works (Anthony Sava's Bricklink store) for his orignal model, plus more cool stuff. Here is a link to that store: http://www.bricklink...itemID=15852317

All the Glencoe Imperial & Pacific locomotives in one place. Most of them are from the UK but two are not. (Engine #66 & #103 are American locomotives)

Credit for these models goes to:

SavatheAggie, Chromenight, & ScotNick

Thank you for your hardwork in designing these engines and letting me rework them!

What do you think? Positive, neutral, or negative comments are welcome.

EDIT: Updated photos for Engine #26.

EDIT #2: Added history and photos for Engine #81 and updated the group and Engine #26 photos.

EDIT #3: Added histroy and photos for engine #103, tweaked a few entires & updated the group shot.

Edited June 24, 2013 by Murdoch17

[ScotNick]

I have to say: nice job.

I like the story that you put behind all of those engines.

However I have to say: all the engines from Thomas and Friends are based on real life engines, there is only one that is not.

The engine that you thought isn't based on any real engine is based on a hybrid of a Hudswell Clarke/ Kitson No. 5459 "Austin I" hybrid.

And to the ldd part: the original files are already uploaded at brickshelf, a link is on my Thomas and Friends thread, so it probably won't be necessary to upload them again.

[Hey Joe]

Those look great, especially 'Toby'. What about powering the actual models? A box car or something pushing from behind?

Joe

[Murdoch17]

It may be silly, but I've never powered my engines / cars. I may make an optional boxcar with motor someday, but I love the feeling of the engine under my hand, as it just takes me back to my childhood. Also, the 9V / RC / PF changeover fiasco didn't bother me one bit since all I had to do was sit there and do nothing. Besides, most of my engines are in modified paper boxes so buying around 14 motors would be worthless, and switching them out is too time consuming. (Not to having mention to redesign every engine or create a bunch of motorized rolling stock!) If I did do this I would need for my 14 engines:

14 motors at 13.99 each = $195.86

2 Speed remote controls at 12.99 each = $25.98

14 AAA Battery Boxes at 12.99 = $181.86

14 IR recievers at 14.99 each = $209.86

That's $613.56 total USD! It's pretty crazy, so that's why I don't do it.

EDIT: Thanks for reminding me Scotnick! Yes, Toby could still be motorized if I wanted to...

Edited May 21, 2013 by Murdoch17

[ScotNick]

The 'Toby' model I designed was actually built to go with pf, so the pf motor, batteries, and receiver would fit inside!

[Hey Joe]

Aren't ALL of us still in our respective childhoods? Reliving them anyway, at least in my case.

I'm hoping to get a non-descript box car set up w/PF to power anything that might temporarily need it. That new Lone Ranger put the idea into my head. It'll certainly be much cheaper than buying a whole slew of PF stuff and/or swapping stuff out continually.

Anyway, I like your models guys, thanks for the inspiration.

Joe

[Murdoch17]

It seems that the 0-6-0 saddle tank engine, (#26) had some problems. Thus, this engine has been redesigned in certain areas, due to not being able to couple to rolling stock using the rear magnet. This was becuase of the over-sized coal bunker smashing into the car next to it. I have straightened and shortened the bunker to keep it at a more mangable length. I'm also thinking about uploading my versions of the three 0-6-0 steam engines to MOCPages, since rthey are significantly diffirent to ScotNicks orginal designs. (I'll give credit, of course!) Please see the first post for pictures!

[Murdoch17]

Sorry for the double post, but the first post has been updated with another engine history (#81) and updated pictures for the group and engine #26.

[Hey Joe]

Hey! Lookin' good, thanks for sharing!

Joe

[Murdoch17]

Sorry for the bump (again!), but engine #103 and it's history has been added to the list, along with a updated group shot. Also, some entries have been reworded to better mesh with each other.

... And, in casew your wondering, I have built all of these engines in real life except for #103, which is next on my list.

[Hey Joe]

Hey! That British switcher is looking pretty cool. Maybe I've been reading Eurobricks too much as I almost called it a shunter. It would be bizarre to see one in real life around St. Louis.

Did any of those type of engines ever make it over to the States?

Joe