Cars topic

[Brainbox]

I don't know brainbox, the problem with concepts is that they are never going to be made like that in a trillion years. The purpose of concept cars is just an exercise for the builders and showing to people what they are capable, but, in a car poster i have just got that says about all the cars that are being realised this year, those 3 did not come up, so they are not going to be made this year. When they are finnaly made, i bet that they'll won't have any of the fancy gadgets they have now or even look like that.

I was just pointing them out. I know that concept cars are rarely made, and when they are, they're nothing like the original.

To top it off about my point look at these two cars DBS and V8 vantage anyone care to tell me the diffrences in both cars? I can't tell :-P :-D

The DBS has some extra 'lines' at the front.

Classic cars are definately the best, as I pointed out earlier. There's nothing wrong with new cars, its just that old cars have that sort of vintage experience (well-explained, I know ;-) ) that new stuff doesn't have. And to think that in 20 years time, people will worship some of the crap that car companies churn out now.

[Optimax X]

Yes, but performance wise- there just the same only the DBS costs more. What really anoys me is the fact people buy these cars hoping to be like james bond, but having an aston will never mean you are james bond. No ferraris for this year, the 599 and 430 are practically new, and the 612 has afew more years to go before they replace it.

Did you know fiat are gonna do a re-make of the cute little fiat 500 for this year? It's a very small and cute car.

[xwingyoda]

No ferraris for this year, the 599 and 430 are practically new, and the 612 has afew more years to go before they replace it.

Did you know fiat are gonna do a re-make of the cute little fiat 500 for this year? It's a very small and cute car.

Not true my friend ;-) Ferrari will launch a small car (I forgot its name, will tell you tomorrow) and its a real beauty !!

Regarding the 500, its cute ok but so expensive for such a small engine !! And its totally too different from the original 500 which was *wub*

European designers do NOT know how to modernise true classic cars !! Look at the horrible new Beatle for instance :-X Compare that to the beauty of the redesign '69 Mustang, or the redesigned Charger or what have you ;-)

*yoda*

[ApophisV]

*note to myself: visit Mr. Tiber very soon and steel some of his cars*

*another note to myself: have to bring my whole crew to steal ALL of Mr. Tiber's cars'

*wub*

[xwingyoda]

Not true my friend ;-) Ferrari will launch a small car (I forgot its name, will tell you tomorrow) and its a real beauty !!

OK, my bad there !! My memory was not that great loool I was referring to the future Dino coming out only in '09 :-$

*yoda*

[Optimax X]

Yeah- well i knew that cos me and my dad are subscribed to the official ferrari magazine which we get through the post. It's abit strange how they do them like that, replacing cars, but i guess it's better than bombarding the publi with loadsa cars at the same time and also makes the retired cars values go up in the meantime.

Anyone heard about that road legal car that will go 270MPH if they make it? I heard it on top gear, and i have to say, i am glad i was sitting down when i heard it. 270MPH?! Phew!

[Brainbox]

What really anoys me is the fact people buy these cars hoping to be like james bond, but having an aston will never mean you are james bond.

And that's the sole reason why I'll never buy one...

European designers do NOT know how to modernise true classic cars !! Look at the horrible new Beatle for instance :-X

Actually I don't think it's that bad. I agree is not the original, but as a compromise...

Anyone heard about that road legal car that will go 270MPH if they make it? I heard it on top gear, and i have to say, i am glad i was sitting down when i heard it. 270MPH?! Phew!

Whats the point?! Its not like anyone will be able to use it at those sort of speeds, and not everyone has a race track in their back garden.

[Sir Dillon]

What really anoys me is the fact people buy these cars hoping to be like james bond, but having an aston will never mean you are james bond.

It doesn't? Goshdangit. I think I'm gonna sue that salesman. >:-(

[Optimax X]

But did you not see that feature on the veyron, they got it up to top speed, and there are many track days, and it's a special car, like the veyron, not many people have got one, and not a lot of people ever will have.

[Capn Kirk 911]

Here's my parents cars

DAD =

http://www.lifecar.de/berichte/bilder/bmw-x5-02.jpg

BMW X5

MOM =

http://www.carnuttv.com/images/roadtest_im...330_front_1.jpg

LEXUS RX 330

same colors as in real life too!

[5150 Lego]

I don't know brainbox, the problem with concepts is that they are never going to be made like that in a trillion years. The purpose of concept cars is just an exercise for the builders and showing to people what they are capable, but, in a car poster i have just got that says about all the cars that are being realised this year, those 3 did not come up, so they are not going to be made this year. When they are finnaly made, i bet that they'll won't have any of the fancy gadgets they have now or even look like that.

NOt true in recent years. You are right that most concepts are just examples of the manufactures new technoligies, there have been plenty of cars that started out as concepts, but ended up being put into production. A few examples are the Dodge Viper, Dodge Prowler, new Ford Mustang, Ford GT, VW Bettle, Toyota tundra, Toyota FJ Cruiser, and the most recent examples, the New Chevy Camaro and Dodge Challenger. Those these are still concepts, it was anounced they will be put into production. Though the production car is never exactly what the concept was, all the previous meantioned cars were very close to there concepts.

I quite like mustangs- the originals in good nik are fenomenal. That mustang is okay that you pointed out casewindu, but IMO that one has had some unessary "chaved-up" styling. Yeah- you guessed it- i hate modified cars. I don't see the point in spending more money on your car with music systems and "rims" than it costs just to buy a better car.

Its all about personalization. Just because someone spends thousands and thousands on modifcations dosen't mean they spent it all in one sitting. It takes some people years to get modifcations done to there vehicle. Some do performance, some do looks. You can tell alot about someone by the car they drive. Espeacially if its a modified one. This was my last car...

03 Volkswagen Passat 1.8T. Had close to $10,000 U.S. dollars in upgrades. I entered it in many car shows in the 4 years i had her. Won a few trophies even. I look back and realize that i'll probbly never put that much money into a car again enless i'm restoring my dream classic American Muscle car. I had a friend in high school that had a modified 93 Mustang that would spank an production Ferrari in a drag race. (and he did. Boy that was a fun night X-D ) Could he out corner one? No. But he didn't build it to go around corners. He built it to be fast in a straight line.

My current ride is an 07 Toyota FJ cruiser. He's stock for now (yes its a He :-P ), but i plan on adding a 3" lift with 33' tires a small stereo system that doesn't interfer with the cargo area. I bought this truck because i needed somthing more practial for work (i build police cars and other emergency vehicles for a living) so radical mods won't work for me. But modifing cars is in my blood, like Lego's are for all of us! So what ever vehicle i own will be modded in some way or another!

[Optimax X]

No offence, IMO when i saw that picture i nearly threw up. :-X I hate people who wreck perfectly good cars by putting chavy details on it like a bigger exust and rims. Nobody thinks it's cool anymore, in fact, it's sad.

I'd prefer real cars, cars made by the company and not some chav with a tool box in his garage.

[5150 Lego]

No offence, IMO when i saw that picture i nearly threw up. :-X I hate people who wreck perfectly good cars by putting chavy details on it like a bigger exust and rims. Nobody thinks it's cool anymore, in fact, it's sad.

I'd prefer real cars, cars made by the company and not some chav with a tool box in his garage.

You have alot to learn kid. You seem to know a decent amount about cars, but you also are a bit ignorant about them as well. Don't like my car,thats fine. There's nothing wrong with upgrading a factory car. In the case of my passat, i improved it on nearly very level. Speed, handling, braking comfort, etc. As far as looks go thats just personal taste.

Nobody thinks its cool? Again, your ignorance is your down fall. The car aftermarket is a $2,000,000,000 dollar a year buisness, and its growing every year.

So what do you consider a "real" car then?

[Minifig Lecturer]

I heard when the workers were shown the first picture of this car, one worker wet him self with delight

When will FIAT stop hiring minors?! :-(

[Brainbox]

No offence, IMO when i saw that picture i nearly threw up. :-X I hate people who wreck perfectly good cars by putting chavy details on it like a bigger exust and rims. Nobody thinks it's cool anymore, in fact, it's sad.

I'd prefer real cars, cars made by the company and not some chav with a tool box in his garage.

I see no problem with customised cars, if the customisation is done well. Sometimes yes, the mods make the driver look like a prat, and the car look ugly. But done properly, mods can be quite cool.

What I meant about the 270mph car is that no-one will be able to drive it at those speeds on the road. I understand that opportunities will present themselves for the car to be driven that fast, but it won't be an evryday thing will it?

[Optimax X]

You have alot to learn kid. You seem to know a decent amount about cars, but you also are a bit ignorant about them as well. Don't like my car,thats fine. There's nothing wrong with upgrading a factory car. In the case of my passat, i improved it on nearly very level. Speed, handling, braking comfort, etc. As far as looks go thats just personal taste.

Nobody thinks its cool? Again, your ignorance is your down fall. The car aftermarket is a $2,000,000,000 dollar a year buisness, and its growing every year.

So what do you consider a "real" car then?

Don't call me kid- it's very patranising. Yes, but you don't need that, what is the point? You wasted a whole of alot of money on that, if you don't like your normal car and want it to go faster- just buy another car! That's most students and chavs and end up causing more trouble than good.

An ORIGINAL car that has not been messed about with anyway- like i said, some cars in good nik and have not had chaved up styling are somewhat jaw dropping. Do you see any ferraris, astons, lambos, zondas or other cars like that. No, they are perfect and have been designed and made to peak performance.

[5150 Lego]

Don't call me kid- it's very patranising. Yes, but you don't need that, what is the point? You wasted a whole of alot of money on that, if you don't like your normal car and want it to go faster- just buy another car! That's most students and chavs and end up causing more trouble than good.

Didn't mean to insult you. I apauligize. Like i said, its all about personal taste. There are alot of things that you don't need when it comes to cars. Whats the point of having a car that is capable of going 200mph when the speed limit is 70? (at least here in the states). I knew that when i bought my passat that i was going to modifiy it. You see tons of them a day, but i was one of the few with modifcations.

Not everyone mods there car to be faster, but i'll agree that if i was after pure performance i'd start out with a car that was designed with that in mind from the factory. My main goal with the passat wasn't pure performance, but to just build an all around better car to fit my taste.

Brainbox brings up a good point. Though i love modified cars, not all are done tastefully. Some are over done and ridiculous. The biggest example is the "Donk" car craze her in the U.S.

An ORIGINAL car that has not been messed about with anyway- like i said, some cars in good nik and have not had chaved up styling are somewhat jaw dropping. Do you see any ferraris, astons, lambos, zondas or other cars like that. No, they are perfect and have been designed and made to peak performance.

Umm, actually yes, i have seen plenty of modified examples of all the cars (exept the zondas. Don't think ther avaible here in the U.S.) you just meantioned. Like i said i used to enter my car in car shows, and there were groups of people or "show teams" that were nothing but modified high dollar cars.

Problem is that i don't beilve that there is a such thing as a "perfect car" as you put it. Reason being is that everyone has differnt taste. Thats why people modifiy. Still don't agree, lets look at it in a couple differnt ways.

Lets take Ferrari for example. By your previous posts they seem to be your favorite and in your eyes, "Perfect". The Enzo is there flagship, and therefore the best. But whats this? Even ferrari found a way to improve over there own design. Its called the Enzo FX. And if every car was perfect (including exotics) then manufactuers wouldn't need to make improvments to ther models every year. Also, all the cars you meantioned are quite nice, but are out of the reach of the average person. So that people buy more resonable priced cars to start out with. In many cases can acheive the same or more times better level of performance for a fraction of the cost. Please don't take this as knocking your taste. I love exotics and am also a big fan of Ferrari, but please have amore open mind. You can't knock down a car because it has differnt rims and tires (witch can improve a cars handling performance(yes, i understand that not all rims out there look good on certain vehicles))

[Optimax X]

I don't think so- modified ferraris are like finding a needle in a haystack. People (like my dad) didn't buy them to modfiy them and practically ruin the car, they bought them to enjoy the car as it is. I have never seen a modfied ferrari in all of my time going to ferrari shows, unless the person is a prat, they'd never come in a modified ferrari.

[5150 Lego]

I don't think so- modified ferraris are like finding a needle in a haystack. People (like my dad) didn't buy them to modfiy them and practically ruin the car, they bought them to enjoy the car as it is. I have never seen a modfied ferrari in all of my time going to ferrari shows, unless the person is a prat, they'd never come in a modified ferrari.

You don't think so? Man, you are so ignorant its not even funny. :-( It really is just sad. Sorry, but modified Ferrari DO EXIST!! Just cause you and your dad haven't seen any at your precious ferrari shows. They have Ferrari shows once a year in Monterey Califorina and have plenty of modified examples. There not as rare as you think.

You also are obviously not a fan of racing then either since all race cars are... MODIFIED!!! 8-|

[Asuka]

No offence, IMO when i saw that picture i nearly threw up. :-X I hate people who wreck perfectly good cars by putting chavy details on it like a bigger exust and rims. Nobody thinks it's cool anymore, in fact, it's sad.

I'd prefer real cars, cars made by the company and not some chav with a tool box in his garage.

I never modified a car that much beside the interior of a van for camping, but I guess modifying cars

is just a hobby for many people and to enjoy their doings is the main attraction for them.

Have you ever watched Home Improvement?

Keep on upgrading, Tim! More power!! :-D

Sometimes having fun (and being creativ) makes the sense. Ouch!

[xwingyoda]

You don't think so? Man, you are so ignorant its not even funny. :-( It really is just sad. Sorry, but modified Ferrari DO EXIST!!

Indeed and you just omited ZE master: Koenig 8-

[5150 Lego]

Good find Xwingyoda! I wans't aware Koenig wasa ferrari tunner! Great examples! :-)

[Optimax X]

You don't think so? Man, you are so ignorant its not even funny. :-( It really is just sad. Sorry, but modified Ferrari DO EXIST!! Just cause you and your dad haven't seen any at your precious ferrari shows. They have Ferrari shows once a year in Monterey Califorina and have plenty of modified examples. There not as rare as you think.

You also are obviously not a fan of racing then either since all race cars are... MODIFIED!!! 8-|

First one so chavified it's unreal- poor cars. Why can't idiots leave perfectly good cars alone- they are like an anoying mossie that won't go away. Tuning companies are so stupid when they start on supercars, i mean done good like brabus is amazing, but these idiots should leave the cars alone completley or leave it to the experts. The second one is not even modifed, it's the 360 stradali model, can tell by the italian flag stip that all 360 stradalis have.

Well duh! You must think i'm really stupid- when i mean modifed i mean music systems and chavvy wheels. I don't mean a proffesional race car that has upgrades that are a nessasary in racing.

[casewindu]

First one so chavified it's unreal- poor cars. Why can't idiots leave perfectly good cars alone- they are like an anoying mossie that won't go away. Tuning companies are so stupid when they start on supercars, i mean done good like brabus is amazing, but these idiots should leave the cars alone completley or leave it to the experts. The second one is not even modifed, it's the 360 stradali model, can tell by the italian flag stip that all 360 stradalis have.

Well duh! You must think i'm really stupid- when i mean modifed i mean music systems and chavvy wheels. I don't mean a proffesional race car that has upgrades that are a nessasary in racing.

because its a hobby for people to do up cars!

maybe they dont want to buy another car because it costs a lot of a thing called money!

just because you and your dad like the cars to be classic doesn't mean everybody else should.

i hope i dont sound rude i am just making a point. ;-)

[Optimax X]

Yes but it costs alot more of soming called money to do up a car with unsessasry music sytems, spoilers ans whatnot tack than to buy just another better car.