GoGoPWN Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Hello all together! I have always been a huge Lego fan since my childhood, but then trough school I lost touch with it. Now Im kinda tempted to buy a Lego set, because theyre currently on sale, and I wanted to ask about what youd recommend to get. Im looking for a set that offers alot of pieces that can be used for other stuff. Not only Power Functions, but also pneumatic. The only one Ive found is the 8110 Mercedes-Benz Unimog U400. The store also offers the 8043 escavator and the 8109 truck. Currently I dont min about the colour, because mostly Im just trying to see if I still got the same interesst in it as I had. Quote
Meatman Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 The Unimog touches upon just about every aspect of Technic building. It really is a great set to get you back into building. Quote
allanp Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 The unimog has a ton of pieces as well as a motor, pneumatics, gearbox parts, lots of gears in general, great wheels, suspention, fake engine parts and more. For what you get it's excellent value even at full price. It has alot of complexity and more interestingly, different types of complexity (not just gear trains) and is an enjoyable build. I highly recommend it. Quote
SNIPE Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Yeah I would say get the unimog or maybe a 2013 'complex' set, and if your stuck maybe look at some lego idea/mechanism books or other creations. Quote
Paul202 Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Best some big sets, I heard the Unimog is excellent. I also highly reccomend Sariel's book, which you can buy frm the link below. http://nostarch.com/technicbuilder Quote
Balrog Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Since I am trying to get back into Technic, seperately to getting back into Lego in general, I had the same question in mind. So I decided, a big set would be a good start (my old Technic is all Technic bricks and no liftarms). So I put my choice between 8110 and 8043. In the end I made a good deal on the Unimog. It is fantastic. So many parts, Though, around half of the parts are pins. But it teaches you so many techniques in one model and has such a good variety in parts. Next, since I have LOTR finished and before The Hobbit sets get available, I want to get 8043 for another bunch of motors, techniques, gearbox parts, LAs, remote control and track parts. And of course, as recommended: a book. I pre-ordered Sariel's book. Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Welcome! It's nice to see another Technic builder join us. My story is similar to yours, and I, too, lost interest in LEGO while in school. I just started building again about 4 years ago, after graduating from school. The 8110 Unimog is a fantastic set. There are a lot of great parts, including the pneumatics. 8043 is also good, but it doesn't have a whole lot of parts. The RC stuff is nice though, especially if you plan on building RC models. My personal favorite for somebody looking to get back into Technic is the 8258 Crane Truck. It has lots of gears, an XL motor with PF switch, a couple of LA's, 8 wheels, and lots of parts. I really like this set. If you can find it cheap, it's worth getting. Again, welcome to the forum! Quote
GoGoPWN Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Thanks for all the replies! Well dont really ask me what I would plan on doing for the future... I actually would, most likely, try to build a RC car or something that could fly. Now, I really just need to get started, and as its not christmas yet, I can still get an additional set later :P But it looks like that I will get the Unimog. Quote
legomuppet9 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Thanks for all the replies! Well dont really ask me what I would plan on doing for the future... I actually would, most likely, try to build a RC car or something that could fly. Now, I really just need to get started, and as its not christmas yet, I can still get an additional set later :P But it looks like that I will get the Unimog. If you manage to build something which can fly I will be amazed... Quote
GoGoPWN Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 If you manage to build something which can fly I will be amazed... I saw some stuff about the implications. If you check out YouTube there is a Video of one of these planes with 2 engines that hovers up and then turns them to fly. Basicly he can hover with it an fly in circles. He uses 2 XL engines for it. The only real way for something made of lego to fly is using the hover method, as Lego pieces dont really offer the aerodynamics that is needed to fly. The thing would probably be made of 2 XL engines for the hovering, 1 M engine for the movin of back and forth(small rotor in the back should provide enough Power), and another engines, the smallest avaliable, for some kin of airflow regulator for the movement so that you could turn around etc. Not saying that its easy, just stating some theories Ive been thinking about. Quote
legomuppet9 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 I saw some stuff about the implications. If you check out YouTube there is a Video of one of these planes with 2 engines that hovers up and then turns them to fly. Basicly he can hover with it an fly in circles. He uses 2 XL engines for it. The only real way for something made of lego to fly is using the hover method, as Lego pieces dont really offer the aerodynamics that is needed to fly. The thing would probably be made of 2 XL engines for the hovering, 1 M engine for the movin of back and forth(small rotor in the back should provide enough Power), and another engines, the smallest avaliable, for some kin of airflow regulator for the movement so that you could turn around etc. Not saying that its easy, just stating some theories Ive been thinking about. That was held up by strings, it was fake, if this is what you mean: and how it works: Quote
Balrog Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 There are several points to mention, why something like this is very unlikely: 1. Lego Motors don't have enough RPM. 2. Lego electric components are not designed to provide enough current to provide enough power for really powerful RC motors. 3. Lego is too heavy! Quote
DLuders Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 However, Lego components can fly for brief periods: Quote
legomuppet9 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 There are several points to mention, why something like this is very unlikely: 1. Lego Motors don't have enough RPM. 2. Lego electric components are not designed to provide enough current to provide enough power for really powerful RC motors. 3. Lego is too heavy! Precisely, Grohl did make something: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=44159&st=325 but it glides, it doesn't fly. Quote
Balrog Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 However, Lego components can fly for brief periods: That's right, but still, no Lego motors ;) Quote
legomuppet9 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 That's right, but still, no Lego motors ;) That's what I thought... Quote
GoGoPWN Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Well from what I saw on the Video the ship lifts itself up, and the only reason for the string was so that the ship turns around and keeps itself from falling down with the momentum that it achieves by turning itself around. Well I dont know much about the Lego Engines, so yeah, I cant comment on that. Quote
Paul202 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Are you guys forgetting the Visorak spinners from the bionicle line a couple years ago? Those things flew pretty well. Quote
DLuders Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 @ Paul202: Do you mean the 82159s "Shield, Bionicle Visorak" piece? Quote
Paul202 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 I mean the main body pieces of the Visorak, as shown here: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=50905 IIRC, you add a couple pieces to the underside of this piece, and when you put the spinning circle thing on and use the ripcord, the circle thing goes pretty far. Quote
DLuders Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Flying Bionicle shields! Parts 50905 + 50899b ! + Edited October 28, 2012 by DLuders Quote
dr_spock Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Unimog is a great set. You could probably make it fly too if you strap enough model rocket engines to it. Quote
Tadej Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Well from what I saw on the Video the ship lifts itself up, and the only reason for the string was so that the ship turns around and keeps itself from falling down with the momentum that it achieves by turning itself around. Well I dont know much about the Lego Engines, so yeah, I cant comment on that. The ship can't lift itself up, if you look closely you can see that there is a counterweight on the other side of the stick that weighs a little less than the ship, so the propellers have to lift maybe 10g to send the ship upwards. Edited October 29, 2012 by Tadej Quote
legomuppet9 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 The ship can't lift itself up, if you look closely you can see that there is a counterweight on the other side of the stick that weighs a little less than the ship, so the propellers have to lift maybe 10g to send the ship upwards. ...plus the propellers aren't Lego, they're metal, so they can lift more as they generate more momentum. Quote
GoGoPWN Posted October 29, 2012 Author Posted October 29, 2012 Ah, I see. Well my Bad. I actually thought that the counterweight was one of these things that has a long cord inside of it, and those dont really weight much. But thanks for clarifing. Also, tomorrow Im gona pick up the Unimog. I can post a review or something along that if anyone wants. Quote
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