Prehistoric Theme

[dillthepill]

Hey guys, I'm trying to make my own lego theme called B.C.

Do you think you could give me some info. Did they have horses in prehistoric times? Could you name some of the prehistoric animals? Oh, and I'll need a lot of plain brown torsos, yellow legs, and brown capes too. Maybe you guys could point out a link for me?

What I have so far...

One set( the biggest one) is going to have a volcano that can erupt and a T-Rex and a bunch of cave men dudes with teeth for daggers, torches, and spears.

Another one will have the cave where the cavemen stay, but a huge sabor tooth is attacking! Can the cavemen defeat him before it is too late?

Another one will have a horse pulled B.C. vehicle and the cavemen will be searching a huge Mammoth.

i have a couple more ideas, but I need more B.C. creatures.

Please post :-)

[Starwars4J]

Well technically the romans were in the BC, as well as the lion's share of human civilization. Maybe you just mean when dinos were around?

First, I hate to break your bubble, but humans NEVER coexisted with dinos of any variety. As for horses that existed at the same time as dinos, they did. However they were monsterous in size, several times larger than modern horses.

Humans did coexist with neanderthals though, however we won out ;-) If you're just going for fantasy though, feel free to just do whatever :-P

[WesternOutlaw]

Good idea for a theme DtP. You could always add Adventurers to it like Lost World or the old Dino Island Theme. I also think that any hunting/trapping scene (Cavemen or Adventurers) would work well with various dinos and/or prehistoric mammals.

Perhaps a wooly mammoth in a tar pit. A dino egg hatching scene. - invention of the wheel.

[highlandcattle]

Good idea for a theme DtP. You could always add Adventurers to it like Lost World or the old Dino Island Theme. I also think that any hunting/trapping scene (Cavemen or Adventurers) would work well with various dinos and/or prehistoric mammals.

Perhaps a wooly mammoth in a tar pit. A dino egg hatching scene. - invention of the wheel.

Don't do dinos. It's so clich

[Starwars4J]

Don't do dinos. It's so clich

[exo attack]

Maybe a swamp with crocodiles! -Yes, crocodiles did exist then. They are the only species that hasn't evolved.

[Kikuichimonji]

Maybe a swamp with crocodiles! -Yes, crocodiles did exist then. They are the only species that hasn't evolved.

How about sharks?

[natelite]

Maybe a swamp with crocodiles! -Yes, crocodiles did exist then. They are the only species that hasn't evolved.

correction. does not need to evolve. sharks too.

for a lego theme though i think it is okay since toys deal mostly with fantasy or imagination anyway. and cartoons and tvs have always shown men with dinos all the time.

the theme though will stink. what you have are a bunch of normal minifig (since cavemen at best will have beard, no helmet or other accessories), with clubs and spears and some huge brick monsters. do kids want to be cavemen? no...kids want to be spacemen kicking alien butts, or mech pilots kicking robot butts, or medieval knights kicking skeleton butts, or aquanauts kicking big sea monster butts. but yeah...no cavemen for kids. :-P

so we have space, water, future fantasy, medieval fantasy. what else can we have? :-P if you can think of a new setting, you can send your idea to TLG for a new theme! *HINT* past themes also included ground, ice, jungle. :-P just gotta think of the villains. robots, aliens, skeletons and big giant sea monsters have been taken. ;-)

[Capn Frank]

that's a fun idea DtP!

do you plan on going for the old "flintstone" theme of creatures (humans w/ dinos) or the more accepted theme of creatures (humans w/o dinos)?

Though i think there is debate as to whether or not dinos were alive w/ humans. But i'm a creationist, and i don't believe in evolution. I'm very firm on this belief (or stubborn) and this may not be the place to debate such things. Just pointing out that there are ppl who don't believe in evolution and see things a little differently.

Anywayz, as for where to get bricks for your new (err old) theme:

In case you didn't know about it, there's Bricklink. This is where you can buy specific pieces and used sets from ppl around the world.

For specific pieces, there's Lego Factory 1.6 that you can down load for free. You can build your own stuff on this program and then order that exact "set" that you made and order it from lego. It has some creature pieces.

Finally for now, there's always the Make and Create theme with some sets that may be quite useful for making prehistoric creature.

If you build some MOCs with BC, post them on here. I look forward to seeing them.

[Athos]

This sounds like a great theme. If it was done right, I'd definately be all over it.

Looking forward to pics,

Steve

[exo attack]

Hey - I just thought of traps.you could use a catapult inside the volcano full of orange and red 1 x 1 plates and it could be used to make the volcano erupt. You could put red and brown hands in the cave to look like hand prints as well.

[dillthepill]

Wow! These are a lot of posts I missed when I went to school!

Exo-Attack: I had an idea similar to the catapult in the volcano which is why I said it would interrupt. And I think your idea about the paint hands in the cave is a great idea. I will probably use that. And your crocodile idea is great too. I might use that. it would have them either crossing a bridge and they fall in the water or they will be on a raft and encouter crocs. I will make my own crocs, instead of getting juniorzed ones.

Starwars4J:By time era I mean the times when cavemen first walked the earth. I have, with much thinking, decided to have two sets with dinos. One, like the Brickster suggested, will have a little baby dino just hatched, and it tries to eat a cavemen. It will be a small set. The next one will have two cavemen searching for a bear with a horse drawn wheel vehicle(it will be the first use of the wheel, so it will have rollers. The next two will have a sabortooth attacking three cavemen in their cave. Then there will be a crocodile swamp scene. And the biggest set will have a huge volcano with four cavemen, a T-Rex, and one of the cavemen will be using a mammoth to fight the T-Rex.

Phred: Thanks for the links. I'll try to get a few creator sets today.

Brickster: Thanks for the dino hatching idea. It is a great idea that will be one of the sets.

Natellite: Thanks for the encouragement. :-P

Highlandcattle:Thanks for the bear suggestion.

Everyone, try not to get your hopes up too high. This will take many weeks, perhaps months. I'll at least try to have it done by April, but it'll be hard.

Thanks everyone for your info. If you have more ideas pleas post.

[Minifig Lecturer]

Wow! These are a lot of posts I missed when I went to school!

Exo-Attack: I had an idea similar to the catapult in the volcano which is why I said it would interrupt. And I think your idea about the paint hands in the cave is a great idea. I will probably use that. And your crocodile idea is great too. I might use that. it would have them either crossing a bridge and they fall in the water or they will be on a raft and encouter crocs. I will make my own crocs, instead of getting juniorzed ones.

Starwars4J:By time era I mean the times when cavemen first walked the earth. I have, with much thinking, decided to have two sets with dinos. One, like the Brickster suggested, will have a little baby dino just hatched, and it tries to eat a cavemen. It will be a small set. The next one will have two cavemen searching for a bear with a horse drawn wheel vehicle(it will be the first use of the wheel, so it will have rollers. The next two will have a sabortooth attacking three cavemen in their cave. Then there will be a crocodile swamp scene. And the biggest set will have a huge volcano with four cavemen, a T-Rex, and one of the cavemen will be using a mammoth to fight the T-Rex.

Phred: Thanks for the links. I'll try to get a few creator sets today.

Brickster: Thanks for the dino hatching idea. It is a great idea that will be one of the sets.

Natellite: Thanks for the encouragement. :-P

Highlandcattle:Thanks for the bear suggestion.

Everyone, try not to get your hopes up too high. This will take many weeks, perhaps months. I'll at least try to have it done by April, but it'll be hard.

Thanks everyone for your info. If you have more ideas pleas post.

What pill are you?

[ghoulrealm]

This is all according to current scientific theories and I believe, is the most likely explanation thus far.

First off, the only to mammals to coexist with dinosaurs were small marsupials and shrew like insectivors.

Horses did indeed start off small, but by the time neanderthal and cromagnum man, they were virtualy identical to modern horses.

Actually, it is the other way around, IIRC. Horses used to be huge and grew smaller as they became confined their grazing to smaller areas

I know of no such horse larger than those of modern draft horses. You could be mistaking a giant sloth (wich had a horse like face although not much bigger than the larger horses) or a giant rinocerous wich is the largest known land mammal ever discovered. The only instances of animal "downsizing" is when they are confined to islands. That is usually the only exception, wich is certainly possible but rare for lage mammals.

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Prehistoric man definitely came in contact with mammoths, wolly rinos, Irish elk, cave bear, undomesticated cattle, wolves, and all the modern fauna of wild africa.

Other possible contact with large land birds (up to 3 meters tall) sabertoothed cats, giant sloth, and Giant Armadillo. Many of the second catagory are from the americas and are thought to have gone extinct around the same time as the first humans reached the continent so it is uncertain if they interacted.

Maybe a swamp with crocodiles! -Yes, crocodiles did exist then. They are the only species that hasn't evolved.

The theory states that no individual organism is exactly the same as it's ancestors. I'm going to assume you mean least changed, therefor you forgot insects, fish (including sharks ;-) ) worms, many other reptiles, enchinoderms, cnidarians, conifers, ferns, and many more that have changed little for much longer than crocodilians.

Now that the history lesson is over X-D don't let fact\theory stifle your creativity.

[exo attack]

Hey, can I help make some sets too?

[highlandcattle]

Don't do dinos. It's so clich

[dillthepill]

Hey, can I help make some sets too?

what do you mean? You helped me with the crocodile idea and you gave me the idea of paintings in caves as well.

[ApophisV]

Actually, it is the other way around, IIRC. Horses used to be huge and grew smaller as they became confined their grazing to smaller areas

Thats wrong, the very first horse was only 40cm tall... (look at the bottom of highlandcattle's chart!)

[Starwars4J]

Apparently so, guess I don't remember those animals as well as I though :-$

[Athos]

Who cares about historical/scientific accuracy? Its a Lego theme. There really weren't undead skeleton armies in Castle times, Vikings didn't battle giant dragons, there are no martians on mars, etc.

I'm quite interested to see what will come of this. I'd love to see Lego do an official line based on this too,

Steve

[Capn Frank]

Who cares about historical/scientific accuracy? Its a Lego theme. There really weren't undead skeleton armies in Castle times, Vikings didn't battle giant dragons, there are no martians on mars, etc.

I'm quite interested to see what will come of this. I'd love to see Lego do an official line based on this too,

Steve

Exactly,

hmm... ...maybe DtP could make a line where aliens are showing the cave humans how to make a civilization? Wouldn't that be somethin ay?

I wonder what type of torsos could be used for this type of theme. And what could you use for the infamous club weapon depicted on all tv shows. (even though Neanderthals used primarly spears)

(goes into is lego room to browse through his collection)

[Starwars4J]

Exactly,

hmm... ...maybe DtP could make a line where aliens are showing the cave humans how to make a civilization? Wouldn't that be somethin ay?

I wonder what type of torsos could be used for this type of theme. And what could you use for the infamous club weapon depicted on all tv shows. (even though Neanderthals used primarly spears)

(goes into is lego room to browse through his collection)

Brown rod with a 1x1 cylinder and a 1x1 brick on top of that?

[exo attack]

what do you mean? You helped me with the crocodile idea and you gave me the idea of paintings in caves as well.

Never mind. Ive got another idea. You could put a river out side the cave. You can use minifig arms for fish!

[lostcarpark]

Hey, great idea, but if you want it to be somewhat accurate, head to a library and do some research first!

"Prehistoric" could theoretically mean any time from when the Earth cooled and the fist single celled lifeforms appeared 4.5 billion years ago to the start of recorded history, about 5000 years ago. It could be quite interesting to build a series of dioramas showing different geological eras. You could have cambrian sea monsters, permian sail backed reptiles, different dinosaur eras, then move on to early mammals, and finally show early humans and the creatures surrounding them. The trouble is they would have to be separate scenes and couldn't cross over, so wouldn't really be a "theme".

If you're thinking of a "caveman" theme, I think that would be really cool, but again there are many different species that could be considered "cavemen", from "Lucy" (Australopithecus afarensis) about 3 million years ago to early modern humans. If you want to do a single theme, you need to pick one caveman species and find out what animals lived alongside them. For example, a Neanderthal theme could be really interesting, but you'll need to check what animals actually lived alongside them. Some examples include Mammoths and Mastodons, Woolly Rhinos, deer, reindeer, bears, lions and sabre-tooth tigers. Although horses would be on the planet and Neanderthal humans might occasionally come into contact with them, Neandertahals were mostly restricted to the frozen expanses of Europe while horses would have been mainly on the plains of Africa and southern Asia.

[BearHeart]

Actually, it is the other way around, IIRC. Horses used to be huge and grew smaller as they became confined their grazing to smaller areas

No, horses were really small and then they evolved into bigger ones.