El Bucanero Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Well, I think, if the blue use the blue flag, they should be French, because of the Fleur de Lis on the flag... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 17, 2007 Governor Posted January 17, 2007 Mr Tiber, may I get your expert opinion? Should we start this discussion in yet another thread or do you think we should merge this with one of the existing ones? Quote
El Bucanero Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Mr Tiber, may I get your expert opinion?Should we start this discussion in yet another thread or do you think we should merge this with one of the existing ones? Well, this thread is very similar to this thread, they are both about the same subject so I think we should merge them. Quote
El Bucanero Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 British Vs As you can see there is a lot more red in the French uniform, however I'm no historian so I cannot account for all the different uniforms used between 1600 and 1800. The uniforms were periodically revised or updated you see. According to these uniforms, the differences are the colours: Give your French soldiers red epaullettes and your British soldiers yellow epaullettes! Quote
Tordenskjold Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Ive made my armed forces up from both IG and IS. IS are colonyal troops(blue ia a cheap color in my colony) Ive divided them into 4 regiments Is a royal guard regiment from back home. is a regiment from the new world. it defended the prince against a spanish raid and has been given the honor of calling them selves guards and wear the guard hat. is also a Colony regiment. as normal soldiers or grunts is my naval force. the red one is the royal marines and the blue are the officers in the navy. midtshipmen or cadets doesnt have eaupalets at all. all other navy officer have yellow Eupalets. with red bandana is my "uniform" for the crew on naval ships. I fight against pirates in my world. and the spanish too. so i can use the men as i want. but i dont think lego had any other idea other than separate the figures so children could make different teams. just like in the castle lego. or almost every lego theme. but if someone want the blue ones to be from Sahara and the red one from deep sea thats their choice, thats what make lego so fantastic :-D Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 17, 2007 Governor Posted January 17, 2007 Yes, that's what I was thinking however I shall wait for Col. Whipstick to view the other thread and get his opinion just in case he's got a clever way of this thread in another direction. But it not MEEEEEEERGE time! Quote
Col. Whipstick Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 URL for the other discussion then gents? As much as these kinds of things may repeat themselves isn't it best to revive a topic every now and then when the old threads get dusty and neglected. X-D Yes, read the other thread but I'll tell you why I don't think we should merge it... The other thread debates exclusively the nationality of the official figures which is admittedly in part what my post was about however I am also asking the question of what would make Dutch, ortuguese, Spanish forces etc... And for that matter I am debating the various colours available and how we should associate them to varying nationalities or divisions. Quote
Col. Whipstick Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 Okay well I when I was kiddy-wink I used to imagine the Blues and Reds were both British, simply different divisions operating under a different commission, say East India Co. or something. My main beef with the blues being Brits though today is that that blue is too darn light for the navy and officer class. If we come up with some of those dark blue torsos then maybe we're talking. Btw... I have a slightly similar thread to this started so have a look... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 18, 2007 Governor Posted January 18, 2007 Yes, I agree topics need reviving from time to time to provide new information, however I believe that can be done in by posting in the existing thread(s). But here's the deal... Col. Whipstick, if you can keep this thread alive till it reaches at least 20 posts I won't merge it. But if it dies and disappears onto page 2 with under 20 posts then its going to get merged. Quote
Col. Whipstick Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 And this is post 9 I believe? lol, think I'm buggered there... Okay Mister Phes, do what you have to but I was trying to encourage them all to talk about options non British or French related. Btw, are you the governor of Port Block, NSW? That website was fantastic and had an idea it might be you, you as you are Australian... Quote
Norrington Posted January 20, 2007 Author Posted January 20, 2007 No, it's not our Mr. Phes, it some one else, tough what a coincidence, Not only is the owner of port block australian, but fros what i've gathered so is Richie Dulin, owner of Port Bruiqe Quote
Col. Whipstick Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 No, it's not our Mr. Phes, it some one else, tough what a coincidence, Not only is the owner of port block australian, but fros what i've gathered so is Richie Dulin, owner of Port Bruiqe Er... who's Richie Dulin? Port Bruiqe... news to me. Quote
El Bucanero Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 Er... who's Richie Dulin? Port Bruiqe... news to me. Richie Dulin AKA Legeaux is a member from this forum who has made some great ships! He also made Port Brique... not Bruiqe... Quote
Norrington Posted January 20, 2007 Author Posted January 20, 2007 Richie Dulin AKA Legeaux is a member from this forum who has made some great ships! He also made Port Brique... not Bruiqe... Sorry 'bout the spelling, i never looked at port briqe that closely, just skimmed over th ships. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 20, 2007 Governor Posted January 20, 2007 Btw, are you the governor of Port Block, NSW? That website was fantastic and had an idea it might be you, you as you are Australian... I've attempted to contact him in the past and let him know about the forum but unfortunately my efforts have been futile. Quote
h22chen Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I agree with a lot of what the posters wrote about preference. For me, I classify the blue with the French and the red with the British (I refer more to the Napoleonic era). In this, the French changed from the royal white to the blue republican. http://www.napoleonguide.com/infantry_frcol.htm French Line infantry pic, in B&W though http://www.napoleonguide.com/uniforms_frinf12.htm and artistic prints http://www.battle-of-waterloo.com/french_army.htm IMHO Cheers! *y* Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 26, 2007 Governor Posted January 26, 2007 Nice contributions Mr H22chen although I'll have to be annoying and point out the uniforms in images you've linked and the Napoleonic Wars are circa 1800. Meanwhile the uniforms for the soldiers in the Pirate theme are supposedly circa 1600-1700 so much could have changed in those 100 years. But since I'm not a historian I can't really validate that statement. On a related note I've been watching scenes from the Hornblower movies and the the soldiers in those movies are definitely British and definitely wearing blue uniforms which the blue coat mini-figures resemble. I'll have to take some stills when I get round to it. Quote
Lukemax Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 For me the current red coats with the epalettes that are blue, are Danish But replace the blue with white epalettes and they are PERFECT English line infantry. Also english/french troops of 1600-1700 would were tricone hats not shako. Lukemax Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 26, 2007 Governor Posted January 26, 2007 Yes, you're right about the shakos as they didn't come into use until the 1800's, so it an anachronism of The LEGO Group's behalf. Quote
h22chen Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Thanks. =) And both of you have Great points, I haven't thought about those points. he he. *sweet* Quote
Norrington Posted January 29, 2007 Author Posted January 29, 2007 I know what you mean Phes, I'd buying another 16 soldiers, 8 red and 8 blue, and switch them to tricornes but i don't have enough black tricorne's :'-( . Also, I'd use the Shakos to Create San Martin's Army for school project on Latin's america's independence, but i'm low on funds right now. Quote
Norrington Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 Sorry to double post, but editing a post won't show a new addition. Anyways, I did some research and the Boy Scouts of America use a fleur de lis as a badge symbol for a Weblo (A rank in BSA) Could that mean that the Imperial soldiers are really BOY SCOUTS just dressed as fenchmen? Quote
Norrington Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 Sorry to triple post, but i did it for the reasons above... The Imperial soldiers ae from quebec Canada it would seem.. The Quebec flag The Imperial Soldier Flag So the Soldiers are canadian, because their flag is Quebec's flag just with the cannons... Quote
ChrisF2006 Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 I use the red figures as British Army and Royal Marines (both officers and enlisted) and the blue as Royal Navy midshipmen and officers. I dont think the Royal Navy ratings were issued standard uniforms until maybe the mid 1800s. Quote
Norrington Posted February 13, 2007 Author Posted February 13, 2007 Has no one read what I said about the soldiers bing canadian? Quote
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