chain wheeel tracks and rims

[SNIPE]

hi i was wondering if i joined the chain track pieces together around the groove in the rim if it would fit like that, i need somebody who already has these parts to try it for

me so i know before buying them

i need the tyre to be seated as it would be without these track chain tread pieces and can you also tell me if the chain track elements are flush with the widest part of the rim (thats the two small ring chanels on both sides of the rim

here is the parts

http://www.peeron.co...=MetallicSilver

http://www.bricklink...asp?P=32296pb02

http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=57518 (real colour [metallic silver] here http://img.bricklink...P/67/57518.jpg)

[DLuders]

@ SNIPE: Your hyperlinks above were all messed up, but I think I figured out what you were talking about (using Match #286 on Bricklink's "Tire on Wheel" Relationships webpage). Do you want to wrap a series of 57518 "Technic, Link Tread Wide with Two Pin Holes" pieces around a 32296pb02 "Tire Technic Racing Large with 'MICHELIN' White Pattern", mounted on a 22969 "Wheel 62mm D. x 46mm Technic Racing Large"? If so, the only people who have that tire will be those who own the 8461 Williams F1 Team Racer set , since it only appeared in that one set.

[SNIPE]

yes i wanf to wrap them round thr rim not the outside of the tyre and will they fit on the rim without preventing the tyre to be seated as normal?

can't i buy the tyres from a website like bricklink?

Edited March 28, 2011 by SNIPE

[DLuders]

Yes, you can buy any of those pieces from Bricklink. Just click on the hyperlinks I provided in my previous reply above, and then go to the "Price Guide Info" link to see the prices from various Bricklink stores.

It turns out that the wheels are used in the 8466 Off Roader set, which I have on my shelf. I pulled its tire off and wrapped a bunch of the Technic Treads around the bare wheel. The tread links DO extend past the innermost rims, but do not extend to the outermost rims. They are too loose to form a tight circle around the rim. In fact, I can see daylight from underneath the circle of Technic Treads when I grab them tight. I don't believe that the Technic Treads will interfere with the mounting of the tire, but they are LOOSE and won't really work.

Edited March 28, 2011 by DLuders

[SNIPE]

Yes, you can buy any of those pieces from Bricklink. Just click on the hyperlinks I provided in my previous reply above, and then go to the "Price Guide Info" link to see the prices from various Bricklink stores.

It turns out that the wheels are used in the 8466 Off Roader set, which I have on my shelf. I pulled its tire off and wrapped a bunch of the Technic Treads around the bare wheel. The tread links do not extend to the outermost rims, and they are too loose to form a tight circle around the rim. In fact, I can see daylight from underneath the circle of Technic Treads when I grab them tight. I don't believe that the Technic Treads will interfere with the mounting of the tire, but they are LOOSE and won't really work.

did you try taking a link out and did you attach them and not just place them also i need them to be trapped round the hub/rim/wheel not the tire

Edited March 28, 2011 by SNIPE

[DLuders]

Yes, I tried taking a link out. The circumference of the Technic Tread circle is different from that of the wheel. If I remove a link, it won't make it around to the other side and if I add a link, it's too loose.

[SNIPE]

Yes, I tried taking a link out. The circumference of the Technic Tread circle is different from that of the wheel. If I remove a link, it won't make it around to the other side and if I add a link, it's too loose.

will it fall off the rim and is it flush with the outer tire grip grooves of the rim

[DLuders]

No, the loop of Technic Treads will not fall off the rim because the innermost connecting links project downwards to catch the innermost rims. However, the loop is LOOSE and slides sideways (back and forth). If you are going to put a rubber tire on the rim, the sideways sliding will not occur. Again, the links should not interfere with the mounting of the tire between the two rims. I really don't understand WHAT GOOD the Technic Treads would provide. Could you explain what you're trying to do?

I don't have the special Williams F1 tire to test it out, so you may have to get one from Bricklink and try it out yourself.

Edited March 28, 2011 by DLuders

[SNIPE]

does the tread loop add any hight to the rim when attached?

[DLuders]

Yes, the loop adds height to the INNER rims of the wheel, but not the outermost rims of the wheel. The breadth of the Technic Treads does not extend across the entire wheel. They only touch the tops of the innermost rims.

Let's talk about the "constructability" of your proposed assembly. If you place the unhooked Technic Tread loop inside of the tire, then mount 1/2 of the tire onto the wheel, how are you going to CLASP the two ends of the loop together? I'm not sure there is enough room for two Needlenose Pliers (one in each hand) to grab the sides of the Technic Treads. There may not be enough space to get past the other side of the tire. Since I don't own the special F1 Williams tire, I don't know.

Again, I don't see what good adding a loop of Technic Treads to the inside of an expensive tire. All it does is add weight, expense, and aggravation. If your aim is just to "stiffen" the tire, just get a can of NON-EXPANDING foam (like the foam used to seal around windows) in a spraycan. Spray a layer of the eurethane foam inside the tire, mount it on the wheel, place an axle through the wheel and rotate it for an hour using a drill. The inside coating will be nice and uniform.

[SNIPE]

i cant use expanding foam because it sticks and cant be cleaned off

Edited March 28, 2011 by SNIPE