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Nuckal ATV , When Googling Nuckal, I came across a link to Brickipedia which said (s?)he's part of the NinjaGo line. And when I Google ATV it gives me all-terrain vehicle for the definition, I knew Ninjas had some pretty advanced technology for their time, but I never imagined.

With all this advanced technology, I can't help but wonder if set temple fire will include a fire truck to help put the temple fire out, when the automatic sprinkler systems fail. And the Ninjas are forced to make an emergency call to the fire department from their Iphones. :sceptic:

Nuckal is a skeleton.It will be skeleton quad.

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It's the set number. Must've gotten into the set name by mistake somehow.

Oh, wait, I didn't think it was a mistake. That's what I was confused about. :tongue: That might be interesting too depending on size and minifigs.

At this rate, it looks like I will get the ice dragon, so the earth dragon might be a good counterpart. I think why it says "defending" is because dragons appear to be the allies of ninjas in this theme. I don't really see how they need to be defended, though, unless there's some large enemy vehicle attacking it.

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OK, so let's review what this theme is going to include:

Trading Cards with spinning tops

System sets

A boardgame

A Brickmaster book

A movie

A website, possibly with more videos and games

Lego sure doesn't spare any expense to market this theme. What's next? NinjaGo: The Videogame? NinjaGo backpacks? NinjaGo pajamas? :wacko:

Considering some of Legos other themes, I think you can throw in some NinjaGo pens, NinjaGo condiment containers, R U NinjaGo Magic Eight Ball and the foam NinjaGo swords and shields and a NinjaGo umbrella. NinjaGo magnets, NinjaGo keychains, "I NinjaGo" T-shirts, NinjaGo watches, NinjaGo Logo Mug, NinjaGo calendar with exclusive Un-Ninja moments and Real NinjaGo celebration in all-new funny NinjaGo set promoting photos, and a NinjaGo sticker book(s), which still leaves room for the NinjaGo miniseries, NinjaGo movie sequel, NinjaGo coloring book, NinjaGo cardgame(Traditional deck, not the NinjaGo set cards), NinjaGo Majong, NinjaGo sudoku, NinjaGo OldMaid, NinjaGo Air-Operated Oil Pump with Extension Kit.(For your NinjaGo economy sized car), NinjaGo Chips Ahoy! Ultimate Street Jam Gritty Underground Dance-Off-War Poster.

I think this branding is getting a bit silly.

And that's just the first wave.

I wonder what ground dragon will be? Maybe he will be brown with crystals?! :cry_happy:

That'd be awesome, would remind me of the Rock Monsters.

Nuckal is a skeleton.It will be skeleton quad.

Wonder what that would look like. :look:

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*huh*

I don't really see how they need to be defended, though, unless there's some large enemy vehicle attacking it.

Like a TOTALLY NINJA Atv? :grin:

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Considering some of Legos other themes, I think you can throw in some NinjaGo pens, NinjaGo condiment containers, R U NinjaGo Magic Eight Ball and the foam NinjaGo swords and shields and a NinjaGo umbrella. NinjaGo magnets, NinjaGo keychains, "I NinjaGo" T-shirts, NinjaGo watches, NinjaGo Logo Mug, NinjaGo calendar with exclusive Un-Ninja moments and Real NinjaGo celebration in all-new funny NinjaGo set promoting photos, and a NinjaGo sticker book(s), which still leaves room for the NinjaGo miniseries, NinjaGo movie sequel, NinjaGo coloring book, NinjaGo cardgame(Traditional deck, not the NinjaGo set cards), NinjaGo Majong, NinjaGo sudoku, NinjaGo OldMaid, NinjaGo Air-Operated Oil Pump with Extension Kit.(For your NinjaGo economy sized car), NinjaGo Chips Ahoy! Ultimate Street Jam Gritty Underground Dance-Off-War Poster.

I think this branding is getting a bit silly.

Would you say the same thing if there had been this kind of marketing for a classic theme like LEGO Pirates? A line of sets, a Brickmaster book, a movie, a website, and a boardgame (plus the spinning tops, which aren't much different than regular sets) doesn't amount to much. LEGO Star Wars had much more: three video games (soon to be four) on several platforms each, a Brickmaster book, the little "Revenge of the Brick" TV event from 2005, several watches and clocks, a visual dictionary, that little Luke Skywalker minifigure vignette... the list goes on. BIONICLE, needless to say, also had a lot of merchandise. Same goes for Knights' Kingdom II, which like BIONICLE had several books, foam swords, watches, etc.

Saying Ninjago has an excessive amount of merchandise is showing a little bit of ignorance, to be nice about it. I myself think it's great that LEGO is showing this degree of confidence in a brand-new, non-licensed theme. It probably says a lot for the amount of time, effort, and research they've put into the stuff they've got coming our way. Will we like it? Who knows? It certainly isn't targeted at our age range. But LEGO certainly has some reason to believe this line will be extremely profitable with the younger kids.

"Defending the Earth Dragon" will probably have a dragon with the same sort of design aesthetic as the Icedragon. And my bets are on that it, like the Icedragon, is allied with the Ninjas. Beyond that, not much to be gathered from that set name alone.

Why is everyone so confused about the skeleton quad? It's basically just another variation on the tank and motorcycle we've already seen. Nice shop job, though (had me laughing for quite a while).

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Saying Ninjago has an excessive amount of merchandise is showing a little bit of ignorance, to be nice about it.

No one is being ignorant. It's just a surprising amount for an action theme which usually don't last longer than one or two years, especially for a weird one such as this.

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Would you say the same thing if there had been this kind of marketing for a classic theme like LEGO Pirates? A line of sets, a Brickmaster book, a movie, a website, and a boardgame (plus the spinning tops, which aren't much different than regular sets) doesn't amount to much. LEGO Star Wars had much more: three video games (soon to be four) on several platforms each, a Brickmaster book, the little "Revenge of the Brick" TV event from 2005, several watches and clocks, a visual dictionary, that little Luke Skywalker minifigure vignette... the list goes on. BIONICLE, needless to say, also had a lot of merchandise. Same goes for Knights' Kingdom II, which like BIONICLE had several books, foam swords, watches, etc. I myself think it's great that LEGO is showing this degree of confidence in a brand-new, non-licensed theme.

That's the point that I was getting at, all of the previous themes you mentioned were well established, and releasing apparel and various other accessories and merchandise was a calculated risk. Seeing that their shifting strategies for this theme and really laying it all out on the table, I thought was a bold move.

It probably says a lot for the amount of time, effort, and research they've put into the stuff they've got coming our way. Will we like it? Who knows? It certainly isn't targeted at our age range. But LEGO certainly has some reason to believe this line will be extremely profitable with the younger kids.

Even if well thought out and calculated, I still think it's a huge risk on their part, everything that I've seen so far has been well put together, the website looks fantastic (When you take into account the demographic) and I believe this line will be very successful with the targeted demographic, I mean look a Knights Kingdom II. Sure we've seen this strategy been done before.

But so much so soon? That's new to me.

And I couldn't help but poke fun at it. :tongue:

Why is everyone so confused about the skeleton quad? It's basically just another variation on the tank and motorcycle we've already seen.

And I don't think we're confused with the concept so much as we're hung up on their use of the abbreviation ATV, considering the word shinobi did not exist to describe a ninja-like agent until the 15th century. Well, it just seems a little funny. :tongue:

(Nice shop job, though (had me laughing for quite a while).

:grin:

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Earth Dragon, huh... Well, I've just realized the four ninjas may represent the four elements:

- black ninja - EARTH

- red ninja - FIRE

- white ninja - AIR (ICE?)

- blue ninja - WATER (AIR?)

The Ice Dragon is affiliated with the white ninja, maybe the Earth Dragon is the black one's pet?

I'm looking forward to see the official versions of the sets we already know, as well as the rumored ones. I'm very curious about Nya - it seems we will have a female member of the ninja team. There's also a female prisoner in the Garmadon's Fortress. On the prelim pictures, both ninja girls have standard faces and torsos, I wonder how the prints on them will look like when finished...

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FUND IT!

You heard the man, Lego.

Make it happen. :cry_happy:

As we are geting long bones... Will we get a short bones too? Like for dogs?! That would be awesome!

I don't follow, long bones. Short bones? :wacko: I think this calls for a cheap pun on my part. :tongue:

Throw me a bone and please explain what you mean. :laugh:

Earth Dragon, huh... Well, I've just realized the four ninjas may represent the four elements:

- black ninja - EARTH

- red ninja - FIRE

- white ninja - AIR (ICE?)

- blue ninja - WATER (AIR?)

Legobioniclesystemninjago! That certainly seems like a logical association, but I'm not sure how prominent it would be. Considering how strong Bionicle's association was with the elements.

Though I'm positive the Dragons will have a prominent connection, I'm not sure however, the Ninja characters will

The Ice Dragon is affiliated with the white ninja, maybe the Earth Dragon is the black one's pet?

"Pet" That'd be an interesting take, but IMHO I think Lego will fall back on the Dragon Rider or Allie cliche, where the Ninjas have freed the Dragons and now act as their riders, or maybe just their allies.

I'm looking forward to see the official versions of the sets we already know, as well as the rumored ones. I'm very curious about Nya - it seems we will have a female member of the ninja team. There's also a female prisoner in the Garmadon's Fortress. On the prelim pictures, both ninja girls have standard faces and torsos, I wonder how the prints on them will look like when finished...

As am I, it'll certainly be interesting to see how this theme that we've been discussing extensively here at EB comes together. How different the sets will look, and how scarily close to the truth TOTALLY NINJA Atv is. :tongue:

I'm very curious about Nya - it seems we will have a female member of the ninja team. There's also a female prisoner in the Garmadon's Fortress. On the prelim pictures, both ninja girls have standard faces and torsos, I wonder how the prints on them will look like when finished...

National Youth Administration? Really? Well, a simple Google search could've fulfilled your curiosity...

The National Youth Administration (NYA) was a New Deal agency in the United States. It operated from 1935 to 1943 as part of the Works Progress Administration.

The NYA was headed by Aubrey Willis Williams, a prominent liberal from Alabama who was close to Harry Hopkins and Eleanor Roosevelt. The head of the Texas division at one point was Lyndon B. Johnson, who was later to become Pres-

I'm very curious about Nya - it seems we will have a female member of the ninja team.

Oh you meant the Ninja. Okay, that makes more sense now.

Yeah I'd be interested also, but I'm pretty sure that Lego is obligated to include a female into the Ninja group, y'know because of.. I'll just say it's because of demographics...

I doubt they'll go into more detail of the character than slapping some feminine feature on the bricks. :grin: Or were you referencing the pieces? Well, we can always use more o' those bricks. :devil:

There's also a female prisoner in the Garmadon's Fortress. On the prelim pictures, both ninja girls have standard faces and torsos, I wonder how the prints on them will look like when finished...

I hope it looks as cool as the female Lego Universe Ninja I've been seeing in some of the advertisements. :wub:

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I'll probably buy all the Villian stuff except the single figures, although I hope the Ninjas in the sets look as good as the singles.

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No one is being ignorant. It's just a surprising amount for an action theme which usually don't last longer than one or two years, especially for a weird one such as this.

I think LEGO is taking it seriously, they want to tackle on beyblade, bakugan, battle strikers and all that silly stuff, hence they will go overboard in promoting. It is clearly something new LEGO are trying so It may succeed or it may be yet another failure to add up to the list in which notable things like galidor and 4juniors are or it may win like Bionicle or the board games, only time will tell.

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I think LEGO is taking it seriously, they want to tackle on beyblade, bakugan, battle strikers and all that silly stuff, hence they will go overboard in promoting. It is clearly something new LEGO are trying so It may succeed or it may be yet another failure to add up to the list in which notable things like galidor and 4juniors are or it may win like Bionicle or the board games, only time will tell.

I don't know if you could call 4Juniors a failure, since it lasted two years and was in itself an extension of the style already established by the Jack Stone theme. So in a sense it was an already-present theme, just a rebranded one.

I don't think taking on the other spinning-top-battle brands is necessarily the best way to describe Ninjago, either, since none of those brands are at the peak of their hype anyway. It's more LEGO trying to capitalize off the same idea, not trying to establish itself as a competitor to those brands.

On a side note, I just looked up 4Juniors on Bricklink to figure out its exact lifespan, and never realized until now that the Pirates line had two separate factions. Learn something new every day, I suppose.

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The only thing anyone can call a failure is Galidor and this is because it was dire and was trying to get into a market that needs a good source material to make any profit.

By your reckoning then, all Action themes are a failure and indeed the pirates re-boot must be a failure, seeing as most don't last long and the only one to have multiple lines is only tentatively "Action" as it was too modern to be historic but not modern enough to be Town.

Bakugan, Pokemon and countless other things have become immense hits due to their collectable nature and battle based games. If kids can play it in the school yard, then chances are it will gain some popularity. All it takes is four or five of the "cool" kids to play it and everyone is begging their older relatives to buy them the toy and all the varied extras. The massive effort Lego is making to promote this theme increases the chances of this being a hit with kids. The increased exposure, through a variety of products in a number of media will attract the target demographic to the theme.

No wonder TLG was so concerned when they found out that AFOLs were significant in number, they knew a lot of their products stood to have a scathing reception from stick-in-the-muds and grumpy nerds! (A la the action figure manufacturers).

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National Youth Administration? Really? Well, a simple Google search could've fulfilled your curiosity...

The National Youth Administration (NYA) was a New Deal agency in the United States. It operated from 1935 to 1943 as part of the Works Progress Administration.

The NYA was headed by Aubrey Willis Williams, a prominent liberal from Alabama who was close to Harry Hopkins and Eleanor Roosevelt. The head of the Texas division at one point was Lyndon B. Johnson, who was later to become Pres-

I'm talking about one of the figures (2172) that will be available on April 2011, along with Cole DX (2170), Zane DX (2171) and Nuckal (2173). In Japanese the sound "nya" is something like "meow", anime catgirls often overuse it.

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Cole DX (2170), Zane DX (2171) and Nuckal (2173). In Japanese the sound "nya" is something like "meow", anime catgirls often overuse it.

Cole and Zane? Those names don't sound very "Ninja". In fact they sound very un-Ninja, why didn't they just name them Sammy Smith and Timothy Thompson. :look:

In Japanese the sound "nya" is something like "meow", anime catgirls often overuse it.

No one told me this would be an anime line. :laugh:

Gotta be honest here, not really sure what to think, well uh. I'll go ask Google translate, maybe they'll be able to sort this thing out. :grin:

Okay, according to Google, the Swedish translation for Nya is New... Guess that doesn't make much more sense than naming a character "Meow". :sad:

Quickly, I began searching through the various dictionary sites Google had informed me of, I stumbled upon one that provided particularly peculiar definitions and explanations.(Most of which to words that don't actually exist.) Taking all facts I'd gathered up to this point, I was left with one, simple conclusion.

This must be the Wikipedia of online dictionaries.

If Lego was in fact targeting this line toward children, this must surely be my best chance at finding out what their reasons were for naming this odd character so strangely, seeing as this was an "Urban" Website, I must've stumbled upon the "hip" and "totally radical" Internet Underground where all the "kool kids" hang out these days. Suffice it to say, I was "in like flynn". I saw that this was my opportunity which, following advice that I've been given, I promptly set about the process of "seizing".

Wary, and uncertain of what lies ahead, I decided to venture further, in the pursuit of a meaningful, logical explanation for this unfortunate character's absurd name. Minutes of time consuming research later, it was decided that I would find no consolation on this most "Urban" of Websites. My experience which was regrettable, didn't leave me empty handed, no. Quite the contrary, it allowed me to come to the realization that my method of research was scientifically inaccurate, generally unsuccessful and, when it was successful, deeply upsetting.

Seeing as I had just come from a Website with the word "Urban" in it's title, I only feel it fitting to summerize my situation in their words.

I am disappoint. :sad:

It looks like I have another chapter for my book, 15 Things I Regret Doing On The Internet. And a premise for my new Ebook/guide:

How to Abuse Your Visitors And Pass Your Website Off As An 'Informative Dictionary Website'

nevertheless I don't have any further information, or explanation, on their decision of Nya to be the name of the female Ninja. I'll have to side with your theory, Corydoras, that this character's name is "Meow". After all, the "Urban Dictionary" was unanimous in the definition of "Nya", victory by majority. Not to mention that this site is "totally rad" in that it's name has the word "urban" in it, naturally I assume their "hip" to this subject.

Of course there is the slim chance that her name stands for Nation Youth Association, but. That'd just be silly.

All that aside, I have to say that this is the most interesting Lego theme I've speculated upon yet. :tongue:

And I await, with grave anticipation, the release of the sets and story of the theme. :laugh:

I mean, it's been a blast so far. :grin:

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I guess I watch some odd anime then...

Never seen an anime with motorcycle riding skeletons. :look:

The Ninja vs Motorcycle Skeleton Soldier wasn't a tip off?

Oh, thats from the NinjaGo line, I was thought that it was misplaced from the new Heavy Metal Lego theme. :grin:

Can't wait for that set, hope the motorcycle isn't too blocky looks fantastic from what I can see in my blurry cut off picture. :tongue:

Really cool helmet that skeleton has on, looks like a Stahlhelm, from its distinctive "coal scuttle" shape. :thumbup:

(Yes I know there isn't a Lego Heavy Metal theme. :cry_sad: )

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Like a TOTALLY NINJA Atv? :grin:

Perhaps, but seeing as it is a dragon, I'm guessing there's a fairly large/strong vehicle. Seeing how strange this line is, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a white and purple skeleton tank or something along those lines. It seems more likely to be a land vehicle to me.

Someone HAS to make this with lego. :laugh:

I'll try to make it, but I hardly MOC and it may not look good. I'll post an image later if I do make it. :classic:

Realistically, though, I'm guessing the ATV will again be futuristic, and will probably feature white with another colour.

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Perhaps, but seeing as it is a dragon, I'm guessing there's a fairly large/strong vehicle. Seeing how strange this line is, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a white and purple skeleton tank or something along those lines. It seems more likely to be a land vehicle to me.

Ooo, hope it's a landmaster! :grin:

I'll try to make it, but I hardly MOC and it may not look good. I'll post an image later if I do make it. :classic:

Hey that'd be a first. Moc of a set:

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from a theme that hasn't been released with this as the only reference image.⇈ :tongue:

Totally ninja. :devil:

(Hope this one's created! I'll wait in anticipation.)

Realistically, though, I'm guessing the ATV will again be futuristic, and will probably feature white with another color.

Futuristic NinjaGo Atv riding skeletons. :cry_happy:

Would be cool if it had a tie-in with Lego Universe, though I'm betting the Atv has more Heavy Metal look to it, like the Skeleton Motorcycle. :classic:

Love the way the NinjaGo theme vehicles are looking so far. :sweet:

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Hey that'd be a first. Moc of a set:

from a theme that hasn't been released with this as the only reference image.⇈ :tongue:

Well, not exactly. :tongue: It's not perfect, but it's good enough, I guess...

I just made a new topic here. First topic and first MOC/mod, too. :classic:

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Man,this theme stinks!I've never seen lego do something like this BUT from what I've seen...We should celebrate! I can't see any stickered parts!the DSS is not in this theme, oh how wonderful!

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Cole and Zane? Those names don't sound very "Ninja". In fact they sound very un-Ninja, why didn't they just name them Sammy Smith and Timothy Thompson.

Cole and Zane don't sound Japanese, but Kai and Nya do.

No one told me this would be an anime line.

Yes, Einstein. This theme definitely IS anime inspired. And the sets are designed to look anime-ish.

otta be honest here, not really sure what to think, well uh. I'll go ask Google translate, maybe they'll be able to sort this thing out. :grin:

Okay, according to Google, the Swedish translation for Nya is New... Guess that doesn't make much more sense than naming a character "Meow". :sad:

WTF? Why Swedish? I tried translating English -> Japanese, and Google says the translation for "meow" is "Nyā", just like I told you.

Quickly, I began searching through the various dictionary sites Google had informed me of, I stumbled upon one that provided particularly peculiar definitions and explanations.(Most of which to words that don't actually exist.) Taking all facts I'd gathered up to this point, I was left with one, simple conclusion.

This must be the Wikipedia of online dictionaries.

If Lego was in fact targeting this line toward children, this must surely be my best chance at finding out what their reasons were for naming this odd character so strangely, seeing as this was an "Urban" Website, I must've stumbled upon the "hip" and "totally radical" Internet Underground where all the "kool kids" hang out these days. Suffice it to say, I was "in like flynn". I saw that this was my opportunity which, following advice that I've been given, I promptly set about the process of "seizing".

Wary, and uncertain of what lies ahead, I decided to venture further, in the pursuit of a meaningful, logical explanation for this unfortunate character's absurd name. Minutes of time consuming research later, it was decided that I would find no consolation on this most "Urban" of Websites. My experience which was regrettable, didn't leave me empty handed, no. Quite the contrary, it allowed me to come to the realization that my method of research was scientifically inaccurate, generally unsuccessful and, when it was successful, deeply upsetting.

Seeing as I had just come from a Website with the word "Urban" in it's title, I only feel it fitting to summerize my situation in their words.

I am disappoint.

Don't want to sound rough, but... What are you babbling about? I thought I've already told you that nya/nyan/nyo/nya sfx represent the sound that cats make - "meow".

You must be really bad at searching, cause finidig THIS took me merely 3 seconds:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090804174726AAYVhsm

In my opinion, these are the reasons for naming the ninja girl character "Nya":

1. It sounds Japanese.

2. While the overall theme is designed to look kakkoi (cool), it sounds "kawaii" (cute). On the preliminary image, Nya looks just like your standard minifig (notice the standard grin) with Irina Spalko hairpiece, but I bet the finished head print will make her look kind of cute. Cute in the way Ibuki from Street Fighter was - ya know, badass adorable. She might resemble Hitomi from Exo-Force in terms of appearance and personality. Beautiful, yet deadly.

Simple? I think so.

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WTF? Why Swedish? I tried translating English -> Japanese, and that's what Google says the translation for "meow" is "Nyā", just like I told ya.

I used Google's default "Detect language" feature. :grin:

Yes, Einstein. This theme definitely IS anime inspired. And the sets are designed to look anime-ish.

Sorry, I didn't see many pictures, and the Motorcycle looked Heavy Metalish to me..

Don't want to sound rough, but... What are you babbling about? I thought I've already told you that nya/nyan/nyo/nya sfx represent the sound that cats make - "meow".

You must be really bad at searching, cause finidig THIS took me merely 3 seconds:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090804174726AAYVhsm

In my opinion, these are the reasons for naming the ninja girl character "Nya":

1. It sounds Japanese.

2. While the overall theme is designed to look kakkoi (cool), it sounds "kawaii" (cute). On the preliminary image, Nya looks just like your standard minifig (notice the standard grin) with Irina Spalko hairpiece, but I bet the finished head print will make her look kind of cute. Cute in the way Ibuki from Street Fighter was - ya know, badass adorable. She might resemble Hitomi from Exo-Force in terms of appearance and personality. Beautiful, yet deadly.

Simple? I think so.

Well, that was my point, for the most part. :tongue:

As an AFOL I like the line, don't really get it. But I still like it, and in my own long winded way I thought I'd fabricate my overall confusion (and search for proper comprehension ) of the NinjaGo theme, by exaggerating my illiteracy of the Internet, anime (and whatever else kids "dig" these days), in a humorous fashion.

I try to incorporate light humor in some of my posts, as a bit of practice. (Which, evidently I need more of. :laugh: )

I didn't mean any offense. :look:

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