New imperial guard uniforms

[michaelozzie]

I think its interesting that the new imperial guard uniforms in red look alot like the swiss soldiers uniforms from 1812 who fought with Napoleon in his Russian campaign. Especially as they have blue facings on the coats whereas the British had white. Im going to use them for this purpose in a moc im working on of the Battle of Borodino

[Hound Knight]

You're right, they really do! I'll look forward to seeing your MOC.

[Wes]

Technically, the new red coats are actually Imperial Soldiers (like the original blue coats), not Imperial Guards. Just wanted to put that out there.

[cei]

The facings on British redcoat uniforms depended upon the regiment - such as blue for the 8th Regiment of Foot, scarlet for the 33rd Regiment of Foot, yellow for the 44th Regiment of Foot and buff for the 3rd Regiment of Foot. An attempt at standardisation was made following the Cardwell Reforms of 1881, with English and Welsh regiments having white, Scottish yellow, Irish green and Royal regiments dark blue. However some regiments were subsequently able to obtain the reintroduction of historic facing colours that had been uniquely theirs.

[Zorro]

Also the hospital soldiers of Napoleon were redcoats with red plumed shako's, although they had white epaulettes if I remember right.

I plan to have a hospital unit in my Napoleonic Army.

[InkTank]

Okay, that settles it. My red coats are Imperial Guard (more elite troops) and blue coats are Imperial Soldiers (standard foot soldiers and artillery) and they will fight the pirates and natives.

All this history is too complicated.

[martinsuper]

Okay, that settles it. My red coats are Imperial Guard (more elite troops) and blue coats are Imperial Soldiers (standard foot soldiers and artillery) and they will fight the pirates and natives.

All this history is too complicated.

My redcoats fight my blue coats.

[Captain Blackmoor]

The facings on British redcoat uniforms depended upon the regiment - such as blue for the 8th Regiment of Foot, scarlet for the 33rd Regiment of Foot, yellow for the 44th Regiment of Foot and buff for the 3rd Regiment of Foot. An attempt at standardisation was made following the Cardwell Reforms of 1881, with English and Welsh regiments having white, Scottish yellow, Irish green and Royal regiments dark blue. However some regiments were subsequently able to obtain the reintroduction of historic facing colours that had been uniquely theirs.

You know a lot about history!

For me the Bluecoats still represent the French and the Red ones the British forces.

Even if it isn't historically correct, I need two different factions to start a fight.

I have almost no pirates, almost no armada guys and no islanders so it's about the Red and Bluecoats. :pir-skull:

[Scouty]

Technically, the new red coats are actually Imperial Soldiers (like the original blue coats), not Imperial Guards. Just wanted to put that out there.

What makes you say that?

I would say they are Imperial Guards (the original red coats), because the new soldier's flag is almost exactly that of the original Imperial Guards.

[Wes]

What makes you say that?

I would say they are Imperial Guards (the original red coats), because the new soldier's flag is almost exactly that of the original Imperial Guards.

All Lego literature (including the set names themselves) from the 2009 series refers to the new redcoats as Imperial Soldiers, and never as Imperial Guards.

From the flag thing, it's obvious that the (blue) soldiers, guards, and new red soldiers are all the same faction, just evolving over time.

[cei]

You know a lot about history!

For me the Bluecoats still represent the French and the Red ones the British forces.

Even if it isn't historically correct, I need two different factions to start a fight.

I have almost no pirates, almost no armada guys and no islanders so it's about the Red and Bluecoats. :pir-skull:

I generally work the same - facings determining the regiment. That said, I've recently started to use redcoats as line infantry with bluecoats as artillery/engineers, against the pirates.

As for what Lego think, the new soldiers are clearly the same "faction" as the old, just updated. I split new/old into companies of each, as uniforms within regiments did vary according to how long one particular company had been on station (ie: uniforms faded over time, got "customised" and bits got lost).