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I have begun works on my new version of the Flying Dutchman. While I was trying some things for the Captain's Quarters, I decided to break out and make a separate vignette.

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The key pieces are the pipe organ and stern window of course. These will go on the ship. Though I'll replace the starry purple bricks by transparent yellow and orange.

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Interesting fact; in At Worlds End, there are two broadside cannons in the captain's quarters, however, there's no opening in the hull to accommodate them. Ah yes, if you study the movies and source material as much as I did, you'd find lots of inconsistencies. These wouldn't be a bother unless you're trying to build an exact replica :pir_laugh2:.

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I hope you like it. At some point I'll attempt to cram all of this into a ship.

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That's awesome, the purple window really works nicely to contrast with the natural tones of the rest of the build. The new(?) clam piece is perfect for the back of the organ. Would be a shame to bury that all inside where you can't see it so well, definitely worth showing it off before that point. 

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Wow, awesome vignette, was the right side of the Organ removed for the fotos? There are a lot of open holes… Can not wait to see your updated rendition of the complete Dutchman, expect it to turn out amazing with all the new parts (and huge when it stays in scale with the organ)!

keep up with your fantastic work!

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On 12/31/2025 at 7:24 AM, Franco Clarke said:

That's awesome, the purple window really works nicely to contrast with the natural tones of the rest of the build. The new(?) clam piece is perfect for the back of the organ. Would be a shame to bury that all inside where you can't see it so well, definitely worth showing it off before that point. 

Thank you, I had that clam piece for some time now, wanted to use it on the stern initially but then found this better use for it :pir-classic:.

On 12/31/2025 at 3:47 PM, Stoertebricker said:

Wow, awesome vignette, was the right side of the Organ removed for the fotos? There are a lot of open holes… Can not wait to see your updated rendition of the complete Dutchman, expect it to turn out amazing with all the new parts (and huge when it stays in scale with the organ)!

keep up with your fantastic work!

Thank you, I did not place any organ pipes on the port side to get a better view, yes. The new Flying Dutchman will be about the same size as the old one, I'll have to squeeze the organ pipes a bit closer together to make it fit the cabin though. I haven't decided on how I want to do the entrance of the captain quarters yet either. Since there are some consistency errors in the movies, it's not exactly a given. 

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On 12/28/2025 at 12:35 PM, Sebeus I said:

Interesting fact; in At Worlds End, there are two broadside cannons in the captain's quarters, however, there's no opening in the hull to accommodate them. Ah yes, if you study the movies and source material as much as I did, you'd find lots of inconsistencies. These wouldn't be a bother unless you're trying to build an exact replica :pir_laugh2:.

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I hope you like it. At some point I'll attempt to cram all of this into a ship.

Love it! Such amazings details... The shell piece for the organ, just perfect! :pir-love:
Did you took inspiration from the organ of the Lego video game? 

As to the cabin, i always thought that there were a lot of inconsistencies from the ship set "prop" to the cabin studio set.
I know it's normal for these kinds of fictional ships in movies to be full of errors, but still...

  • It starts with the access to the cabin on the poop deck right behind the Kraken capstan, where you have to go 2 decks below to the "organ room"... We know this because otherwise the cabin would be smaller (in therms of hight), such as the stern window. So, there has to be some sort of staircase in between the doors of the "Kraken Capstan Deck" and the one door to the Organ Room... Just that small section raises a lot of questions. :pir-grin:
  • From the inside, if the stern window was accurate, it should be divided in the middle due to the smaller balcony... The lower balcony has two arched passages on the side galleries to the cabin, another reason why i think the cabin is 2 decks tall.
  • The two broadside cannons inside the cabin are new to me... and i have to say that i did my research through the movies and all kind of source material available, but i have to admit that never came across with those cannons before (not that i didn't suspected they were missing in terms of design of the hull). So i'm quite curious to know if you still have that information about the 2 guns inside the cabin and if you would mind to share it? :pir-wink:

Continue the excelent work. :thumbup:

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3 hours ago, Long_John_Silva said:

Love it! Such amazings details... The shell piece for the organ, just perfect! :pir-love:
Did you took inspiration from the organ of the Lego video game? 

 

As to the cabin, i always thought that there were a lot of inconsistencies from the ship set "prop" to the cabin studio set.
I know it's normal for these kinds of fictional ships in movies to be full of errors, but still...

  • It starts with the access to the cabin on the poop deck right behind the Kraken capstan, where you have to go 2 decks below to the "organ room"... We know this because otherwise the cabin would be smaller (in therms of hight), such as the stern window. So, there has to be some sort of staircase in between the doors of the "Kraken Capstan Deck" and the one door to the Organ Room... Just that small section raises a lot of questions. :pir-grin:
  • From the inside, if the stern window was accurate, it should be divided in the middle due to the smaller balcony... The lower balcony has two arched passages on the side galleries to the cabin, another reason why i think the cabin is 2 decks tall.
  • The two broadside cannons inside the cabin are new to me... and i have to say that i did my research through the movies and all kind of source material available, but i have to admit that never came across with those cannons before (not that i didn't suspected they were missing in terms of design of the hull). So i'm quite curious to know if you still have that informatition about the 2 guns inside the cabin and if you would mind to share it? :pir-wink:

Continue the excelent work. :thumbup:

Exactly! I see I'm dealing with another connaisseur 😊.

An historical ship would have something like this.

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The Flying Dutchman's mizzen mast is placed all wrong for that. Though since she has a modern steering wheel instead of a whipstaff, I suppose that doesn't matter really.

I chose to go for a compromise, instead of going two decks down, I will straighten the upper gun deck and locate the captain's quarters there. As on my sketch.

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I figured it made sense to do it like that as it seems to me that, in the movies, the Flying Dutchman doesn't have its decks following the curve of the ship, eventhough its cannon ports do 😆.

 

The broadside cannons in the captain's quarters are most likely meant to be those from the lower gun deck.

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I took this picture from my television 😅. The starboard cannon is clearly visible. Another interesting thing about this picture is that it looks like the ceiling isn't that high near the entrance, which led me to presume that the interior prop is actually meant to be partially under the upper gun deck. This of course makes accessing the cabin via the doors on the quarter deck even more weird.

Here's another one from At Worlds End.

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I don't think I've seen these cannons in any of the scenes from Dead Man's Chest though, perhaps they were added later.

PS. I didn't play the lego PotC game actually, but I'm beginning to think that I should :pir-laugh:

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On 1/3/2026 at 12:04 AM, Sebeus I said:

Exactly! I see I'm dealing with another connaisseur 😊.

An historical ship would have something like this.

250px-Vasa_whipstaff_general_arrangement

The Flying Dutchman's mizzen mast is placed all wrong for that. Though since she has a modern steering wheel instead of a whipstaff, I suppose that doesn't matter really.

I chose to go for a compromise, instead of going two decks down, I will straighten the upper gun deck and locate the captain's quarters there. As on my sketch.

InteriorSketch.png

I figured it made sense to do it like that as it seems to me that, in the movies, the Flying Dutchman doesn't have its decks following the curve of the ship, eventhough its cannon ports do 😆.

 

The broadside cannons in the captain's quarters are most likely meant to be those from the lower gun deck.

kigt1849IQ.png

I took this picture from my television 😅. The starboard cannon is clearly visible. Another interesting thing about this picture is that it looks like the ceiling isn't that high near the entrance, which led me to presume that the interior prop is actually meant to be partially under the upper gun deck. This of course makes accessing the cabin via the doors on the quarter deck even more weird.

Here's another one from At Worlds End.

OGs9132Ps.png

I don't think I've seen these cannons in any of the scenes from Dead Man's Chest though, perhaps they were added later.

PS. I didn't play the lego PotC game actually, but I'm beginning to think that I should :pir-laugh:

Connaisseur, I wouldn't go that far... Just curious about it. :pir-laugh:
What's even more curious is that the first thing that occurred to me about the stairs to the cabin was precisely this Vasa diagram.
It's not even worth trying to discuss the rudder issue because, being a more modern system, in reality, the cables that connect the steering wheel to the tiller would cross the cabin right in the middle... Something that isn't visible and therefore, another of those movie mistakes when it comes to historical acuracy. :pir-sceptic:
But it makes sense that the mizzenmast doesn't go all the way to the lower deck, because it would probably also cross the cabin next to the entrance.
I agree with the compromise of making the cabin at the level of the upper deck and with Vasa-style stairs, it will look smaller but far more functional. 
Ah! Before I forget, if you look more closely at some photos of the ship, it's possible to verify that the mainmast isn't inclined like the mizzenmast... it's completely vertical at 90º: :wink:

Flying Dutchman Side View

Regarding the decks not following the curvature of the hull, I have to respectfully disagree... :wink: Dutch ships (which inspired the Flying Dutchman, as well as the Vasa) had the peculiarity of having the sterncastle decks with rather pronounced curves/angles, which is why I think the cabin follows the line of the lower gun deck. What can happen in many cases is a slight difference in height between the decks, like 2 or 3 steps... This is visible in the Vasa diagram and also in the Black Pearl with the access to the cabin (2 steps lower). It may be an idea that we shouldn't discard, although the recent discovery of the 2 cannons in the captain's quarters makes this theory quite difficult. AHAHAH :laugh_hard:

 

As for the broadside cannons, the only thing that comes to mind to say is that the eyes only see what they want to see. AHAHAH  :laugh_hard::laugh_hard:

I had never noticed such a thing before (and i've seen the movies dozens of times), *huh* and they are literally under my nose, but it's also not easy to spot them with the furniture, chests, and sea life all around, plus the filming inside the cabin set is always done in low light, which doesn't help much. And yes, most likely they are from the lower gun deck

And yes, the ceiling above the cabin entrance will be lower due to the upper deck and perhaps the possible stair system that should (or ought to) exist above it. :wink:

 

My apologies for the long text, if you are interested in continuing the conversation feel free to send me a PM otherwise I'll just contaminate the whole thread with my theories... AHAHAH :pir-laugh:

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On 1/5/2026 at 11:19 PM, Long_John_Silva said:

Connaisseur, I wouldn't go that far... Just curious about it. :pir-laugh:
What's even more curious is that the first thing that occurred to me about the stairs to the cabin was precisely this Vasa diagram.
It's not even worth trying to discuss the rudder issue because, being a more modern system, in reality, the cables that connect the steering wheel to the tiller would cross the cabin right in the middle... Something that isn't visible and therefore, another of those movie mistakes when it comes to historical acuracy. :pir-sceptic:
But it makes sense that the mizzenmast doesn't go all the way to the lower deck, because it would probably also cross the cabin next to the entrance.
I agree with the compromise of making the cabin at the level of the upper deck and with Vasa-style stairs, it will look smaller but far more functional. 
Ah! Before I forget, if you look more closely at some photos of the ship, it's possible to verify that the mainmast isn't inclined like the mizzenmast... it's completely vertical at 90º: :wink:

Flying Dutchman Side View

Regarding the decks not following the curvature of the hull, I have to respectfully disagree... :wink: Dutch ships (which inspired the Flying Dutchman, as well as the Vasa) had the peculiarity of having the sterncastle decks with rather pronounced curves/angles, which is why I think the cabin follows the line of the lower gun deck. What can happen in many cases is a slight difference in height between the decks, like 2 or 3 steps... This is visible in the Vasa diagram and also in the Black Pearl with the access to the cabin (2 steps lower). It may be an idea that we shouldn't discard, although the recent discovery of the 2 cannons in the captain's quarters makes this theory quite difficult. AHAHAH :laugh_hard:

It's interesting that I designed my previous version to have the main mast inclined originally, however, after attaching the rigging, it ended up at almost 90° anyway :pir_laugh2:.

When it comes to the curvature of the decks I go by what I see in the movies mostly. so it will be very limited, almost straight, I believe my previous model had about 3 plates elevation between lowest part of the upper gun deck and highest. The elevation is greater on the lower gun deck but since that one won't be visible, I guess that doesn't matter much.

 

On 1/5/2026 at 11:19 PM, Long_John_Silva said:

As for the broadside cannons, the only thing that comes to mind to say is that the eyes only see what they want to see. AHAHAH  :laugh_hard::laugh_hard:

I had never noticed such a thing before (and i've seen the movies dozens of times), *huh* and they are literally under my nose, but it's also not easy to spot them with the furniture, chests, and sea life all around, plus the filming inside the cabin set is always done in low light, which doesn't help much. And yes, most likely they are from the lower gun deck

I've seen the movies dozen of times and I only noticed it recently, watching the interior scenes almost frame per frame :pir_laugh2:, in an attempt to make sure my new version will be as faithful to the movies as I can possibly manage.

 

On 1/5/2026 at 11:19 PM, Long_John_Silva said:

My apologies for the long text, if you are interested in continuing the conversation feel free to send me a PM otherwise I'll just contaminate the whole thread with my theories... AHAHAH :pir-laugh:

Not at all, this is one of the reasons I like keeping a building log on Eurobricks, these discussions are very interesting!

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