The Strange Dilemna: Pirate's Lookout, set numbers 1464 and 1696 - Is One Actually a UK-Exclusive Promotional Item? (Ongoing Investigation)

[kelceycoe]

Recently I made a list of all the known North American exclusive sets and even polybags, etc. However, when researching sets released in 1992 I found myself running into a problem: There is no evidence that 1696 - as a boxed set with 1696 - was EVER released anywhere outside of Europe. I also am suggesting that 1464 was the North American version.

However, I only have one 1994 SAH US catalog and none from the UK and it does not mention which set number appeared in the 1994 Value Pack numbered 1900.

https://brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/1900_Special_Bonus_Pack?file=1900-1.png

So as of right now, I can only speculate. Why? Because the Brickipedia listing for 1900 claims its 1696 that's included in this bundle. However, there is no evidence suggesting which set number and the one catalog entry at Brickpedia is unsourced:

https://brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/1900_Special_Bonus_Pack

What's worse? Bricklink has a conflicting date for this Value pack as 1993:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=1900-1#T=I

However, this directed me to search the 1993 SAH catalogs and, of course, Brickipedia is wrong and Bricklink is right. In the Spring 1993 SAH Catalog, on page 17 you can see this set listed - but by its name, NOT its number. What's worse... NONE of the catalogs in 1992 I have and NONE of the two in 1993 even mention 1464 (probably why Brickset lists it as a retailer set since those eventually made the catalog a year after they were released).

https://brickset.com/library/catalogues

Can ANYONE verify is this Bonus Pack was even made available to sell since it was only seen once and does anyone have any other information - besides the polybag for 1464 and box from 1696 showing them for sale anywhere?

If not all we have to go by is what people have listed on Ebay and past auction sites and I stand by my original statement...

1464 is the number for the US REtail polybag

1696 was available only in Europe in a box

Set Bonus Pack #1900 contained Pirate's Lookout - we do NOT have a specific set number listed for the Pirate set and ultimately it's irrelevant since, as far as we can tell, the sets are the same but packaged differently.

HOWEVER

I believe this find on E-bay suggests I am correct and that 1696 was available as a special promotional item in France  (this seller is from Germany):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127351700076?_skw=lego+6266&epid=22053598830&itmmeta=01K5SZ924NM4PMAAWG809PWKKR&hash=item1da6c0ba6c:g:xrgAAOSwRXtn7RR7&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1evtSILJWgO3Zi%2B6OueICT6X1MIDDJKeOcuXmmx%2FMEdmt%2FvWn47jz2ieQlklqoNwAADfGAFjBWnlpJyBKgu62eTijhKGqZbk8sbobBJqz9m1ERpjQ%2FoZ0LFLDCfGwQaIIhAoUebwqaWygPvlpmB2Rjuh9ED%2FQ9bWeBrFspmTxGUBGApz4DtUoWh5roRNbuUMBXCa1KHSLzxeu4WcI0Ot1jeQw3m6miLQN6PEa7ozj7NI7SEah7IIG9nKobWAfRMKEA%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7iipL-uZg

 

FURTHER UPDATE:

As I was searching for 1464, other sets with the numerical sequence 146* popped up and I noticed these were the same sets in the Bonus pack. My discovery also led me to find 1695, which also has a polybag that lookes similar to 1463.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205708200682?_skw=lego+1463&itmmeta=01K5T3PN1TVJ5EM8NHSF15A7DR&hash=item2fe52a0aea:g:4vgAAOSwho5i7VVM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1d8B7h1SqHo0yJ9BizjTqSEqNO%2B2MJrl8Z6DhTOWFnfVcdDyVU3twBroaP0QcNcNbuONiggfM0uaPc6di%2BLmRGyoLCo9mbJtncenp584%2FJvXYmuH4hHEr8lQriaYYzZ8ibAH3OisMcmNFATTHHpfm7eDNdiT7DSTa1kkTeknZM3mkG39rFQUDRC5PUzTvYuvJhqTGnqcpK67zJo7CjNCTJqgoJdRrsl3Q8f%2FbDiQO8LWIDghVh5pheiPWnX8LynSSD4rsZOSE7Zn98MRznLeGRltprZMcTI%2BbDTclCNHr3%2Flw%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR5TR2sOuZg

Same thing with Galactic Scount 1462 and 1694

https://www.ebay.com/itm/136073939262?_skw=lego+Galactic+Scout&epid=24053420534&itmmeta=01K5T44QSEKSP40ECMXAWQ0NCA&hash=item1faea3893e:g:3bQAAeSwG~loYFLg&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dLfGOUIynh%2Fh4bXuV24vaH%2Blq9ryYWvt4lxbnfxgwjC2SLOPUevjeOFY2AQ1xP4WYmh1dJlwzc1Zu8FFol5c4diYBIfBfDRzvNSjm4hgrANNd7pCikvLJ7dVX95skvZrPix75uSNdj3oFLBnZ%2BDP7pw39I7bJaobbv6A7lkjNWhroHxcW030dfubcy49NBuiHkfHpGEhe0kfCaoIAE42kvMoL0HwguYcDNR7%2F7Mivv54BpzuUVsqGbdzKyrzDs2PE%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_j8ksSuZg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/317045937792?_skw=lego+Galactic+Scout&epid=18053427876&itmmeta=01K5T44QSEBBZ0J31MV1MDXB27&hash=item49d1691680:g:~1wAAeSwKc5oY~5N&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1f9wjOpsGl6Qu0CDFIpY2LwbibNI2vlZTVxzDJVlYlaSmV9%2F2YCR2YpWrWrYYiIkTm7K0VekQCzgggmXmQVt4TzlaohrEOYnIZ8hUplOG78hubHpdAnRPWsOmqD9vdlLa4azssjksa73aeDi4U9XSdMpHBby7nbgmo5N%2F5VsAfeer%2FPunXprT6VF9yLwrFyX99jWVTXuMnMAnTYSUv0C3QSnjPRNNYpK1%2Fe090Lt70PuYCLZbsBmfeSUzyOrNvphy9rct06me02uBtheHeUf0ymjFXvQu9VIcWx5ulUhNacew%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_j8ksSuZg

LATER UPDATE:

This whole USA Polybag vs Europe Boxes dilemma extended to Shipwrecked Pirate - 1713 Polybag and 1733 Boxed AND 1747 / 1802.

Edited 22 minutes ago by kelceycoe