Sven J Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) Hello everyone, As the title suggests, I'm really upset about recent decisions by the people behind Rebrickable. Last night, I received "warnings" for eight of my models on Rebrickable. Essentially, it's about three things: A MOC inventory now has to include all elements used to build the model. As e.g. for cut hoses, this is basically impossible due to the lack of a part number, which is why I always point out in the model description that pieces of rigid hose are needed. However, this practice is no longer allowed. The main photo of the model must not show any stickers that can't be downloaded along with the instructions. I frequently use thin self-adhesive tape for trim lines on my model – how on earth should I be able to upload that or include it in the inventory??? Photos of the model must not reveal any third-party parts. Thus, I would have to show my two-axle passenger car without wheels; I would have to take a photo of my Tu-144 with gray hinges for the canards because Lego doesn't offer white ones. But I did always explicitly mention all third-party elements in the model description! It was clear to everyone and I’ve never received a single complaint. All three items have never been an issue and have now been introduced through the back door, literally overnight. I'm now supposed to revise the “warned” models and request a new review. Well, no, Rebrickable, you can do that without me. I've always wanted to give something back to the fantastic Lego community by making my models available on Rebrickable (which is why I never charged money for them). But then, first the plagiarists came along, and now Rebrickable is going crazy – sorry, I don't need to waste my time with that. I will therefore deactivate my Rebrickable account and all MOCs on July 1st and hope that others will do the same. So if anyone still wants to download one of my models, you’d better hurry. Of course, I'll remain active here at EB. And we'll find another way to share instructions for our creations. Best regards, Sven Edited June 16 by Sven J Quote
Toastie Posted June 16 Posted June 16 50 minutes ago, Sven J said: I've always wanted to give something back to the fantastic Lego community by making my models available on Rebrickable (which is why I never charged money for them). But then, first the plagiarists came along, and now Rebrickable is going crazy – sorry, I don't need to waste my time with that. Hi Sven, there is nothing more to add: Get the f* out of there. This, your very approach, is how it should be embraced by us — in an educated, grown-up, giving, living-the-LEGO-idea, world. Well. Things change. Back in 1965, I got my first set … some years later, a small box of bricks which was my world of fun they call nowadays “creativity”. I may be totally wrong here, but your “creations” (adopting TLG talk, never liked it, creations are results of playing and — when you somehow “mature”, planning before building) are a result of deep fun, in many regards. Perfection may be one, showing how it works (the building instructions) another. Just enjoying what you have accomplished (for the sole reason of joy for yourself) a further. Sharing seems to be what drives you. That is what I do here on EB: Sharing - regardless of any kind of praise or whatever. Just that: Sharing. I never made it to Rebrickable - I am simply not good enough, but you certainly are, or better: Have been, as you are pulling the plug. Now, should the usage of any kind of “piece” (hardware or software) that is not TLG compliant not be allowed anymore - then just present your creativity to other gods of toys, materials, and ideas. They have since long gone past accepting offerings from TLG's admirers - they are simply creative. So, without further ado ;) - just quit there. All the best Thorsten Quote
Sven J Posted June 17 Author Posted June 17 @Toastie Thank you Thorsten for your warm and encouraging words! Quote
dtomsen Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) TLG and unfortunately the wider AFOL community have long embraced the Highlander motto "there can only be one" The subniche within a subniche which we call LEGO model trains has for quite some time now moved well outside of those constraints both out of necessity and creativity. Tracks, wheels, rods, power and control systems, stickers, UV-printing on elements, 3d printing own elements, heck, even other competing brands. The list just goes on and on. The genie is out the bottle and can't be forced back in. None of us diehard LEGO model train builders want to go back to only building caricatures of trains. We want to push the envelope just like you do, Sven. If those behind Rebrickable don't understand that with their reactionary and counterproductive move, it's their loss, not yours. You'll find other suitable venues like Open L-Gauge to share you fantastic creations and people will follow along. Edited June 22 by dtomsen Quote
Sven J Posted June 23 Author Posted June 23 Update: Rebrickable had warned 8 MOCs. This morning, without warning, they banned 14 (!!!) of my models within 5 minutes. Even though it's not July 1 yet, I've now deactivated the remaining 7 models as well. I'll see if I can find another platform soon. In any case: **** ***, Rebrickable. I'm just sorry for the money I spent every year to support you. Quote
mattsbrickmocs Posted June 30 Posted June 30 Hey Sven. Iv been trying to find you since you disappeared from rebrickable. I downloaded your instructions for the Tyrrell 019 and redesigned it without all the famous illegal lego techniques lol. I also changed some areas to flow more smoothly and to my taste. Ive had some 3D printed mirrors and wheels made for it and iv just finished making the standard sticker sheet for it. I am now also planning to do the livery that should of been but never happend with Rothmans. I will be selling the wheels, mirrors and stickers as a package and as you didnt charge for your instructions, I will be including my ones for free with the pack. I wanted to give you credit for the initial concept and design and link your profile etc for people to visit, follow and see your other creations. As you have now gone from rebrickable, is there another platform / site etc that you use that I can link and send people to? Quote
Toastie Posted June 30 Posted June 30 3 hours ago, mattsbrickmocs said: ve had some 3D printed mirrors and wheels made for it That is TOTALLY illegal Actually, it is so illegal that I simply love it! Have fun and all the best Thorsten Quote
Sven J Posted July 1 Author Posted July 1 (edited) Hi @mattsbrickmocs, Thanks for your kind request! As for now, I haven't found a new site to publish instructions for my models. However, you can link to my Flickr albums page where (nearly) all of my MOCs are displayed. Of course I'd love to see pictures of your Tyrrell 019 version as well! Best regards, Sven Edited July 1 by Sven J Quote
mattsbrickmocs Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Thank you. Once both versions are all done, i will share some pictures ☺️ Quote
Sven J Posted July 19 Author Posted July 19 (edited) Update: My model files will now be made available again in my cloud. I'll add more and more files over the next few weeks. Please read and agreee to the "Notes on using my files" first before downloading. Thank you! Edited July 19 by Sven J Quote
mattsbrickmocs Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Awesome. Iv not had a chance to sort the Tyrrell properly as yet. Got back of holiday and have over 400 orders to make up. Quote
9v system Posted August 18 Posted August 18 im also in the same boat, they removed 4 of my GBC mocs despite having permission from the designers to post the instructions, im also ready to cancel my plan and say bye, also hate the fact they hate brands like Webrick who are great and i have used many times. Quote
Sven J Posted August 18 Author Posted August 18 6 hours ago, 9v system said: they hate brands like Webrick It's worse: you mustn't even mention clone brands there. In one case, I stated that one of my models was based on (but heavily modified) a Bluebrixx set, I even credited the original designer. After several years (!) the model was suddenly banned. I altered the description, removed the Bluebrixx reference, but of course let the designer credits untouched, then wrote to an admin for re-approval of the model. He answered that there was no way I could know who the original designer was (Bluebrixx states it on their website...) and so the model remains banned. Another time, I stated that copies of a model were sold on Aliexpress although this was not authorized by me - that clearly was a warning not to buy these copies, not promotion! This was okay for some months, then they suspended the model for mentioning "pirate brands" and it was only re-approved when I changed "Aliexpress" to "Chinese websites". They've gone a bit mad there... Quote
SecondHandLego Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Sorry to learn about your experiences with Rebrickable. How are you going to publish your new MOCs now? Quote
Sven J Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 1 hour ago, SecondHandLego said: How are you going to publish your new MOCs now? For now I use my cloud to upload new models, and have in fact recently added my Hanomag 2/10 PS. If this could be a permanent solution, or how else it could be handled, I don't know yet. Quote
SecondHandLego Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Sven J said: For now I use my cloud to upload new models, and have in fact recently added my Hanomag 2/10 PS. If this could be a permanent solution, or how else it could be handled, I don't know yet. I think having a cloud for downloading will work well, but few people will find your designs there. You'll need a platform to announce a new moc to the world. It could be here on Eurobricks of course, but you could consider Flickr or Instagram or so. I very recently started publishing on Flickr, and I am curious to how many downloads it will lead. Quote
aFrInaTi0n Posted September 2 Posted September 2 I can feel your pains as some of your reported requirements seem to be hard to impossible to achieve. As I was in touch with the staff in the past (one man company it is), they are open for feedbacks and offer forums to discuss matters. On the other hand I can understand possible reasonings behind those limitations, as one as a platform provider who would like to stick to go with LEGO, has to follow the rules of LEGO. Just from my imagination I could think of some unreachable barriers may have been implemented on purpose, just to disallow for e.g. custom stickers. Additionally the other thought may go for their own reputation for new customers getting less than they might have expected from the pictures - I do not want to blame the autor, it may be a thing of the audience not reading well enough, but the outcome for the plaform is still the same. To conclude: It is not always easy to please everybody and stay within allowances and expectations.. sadly. My strong believe is, there are valid reasons behind for the restrictions being implemented, even if the outcome may not be good for old curated MOCs. *just in case: only my personal opinion Quote
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