Wizarding World 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[BacktoBricks]

6 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Exactly  That‘s what I‘ve been saying the whole time: it‘s the biggest HP set ever, whatever the subject matter is it has to deserve that honour without the slightest shadow of a doubt 

That's it then; it must be a massive lightning scar mosaic! What could be more iconic in HP. 

[Roebuck]

We will see, but last year we got icons D2C and not one of us had guessed that beforehand.
I want a DA expansion as much as the next one here, but would not be surprised if they surprise us with something different again

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, BacktoBricks said:

That's it then; it must be a massive lightning scar mosaic! What could be more iconic in HP. 

Straight out of my nightmares 

1 hour ago, Roebuck said:

We will see, but last year we got icons D2C and not one of us had guessed that beforehand.

Indeed, we hadn‘t. My point was more about iconicity though, not necessarily about the (un)expectedness of the subject matter  Case in point: Last year‘s D2C was not what we expected, but Hedwig‘s certainly iconic enough to deserve a set like that

[Slytherin Alumni]

20 hours ago, krimimimi said:

Well that's an excellent reason not to mention it  but also a horrible wager if so. I get the sense that Slytherin is underrepresented on this forum... 

Slytherin here  obviously(Snape's voice)

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Exactly  That‘s what I‘ve been saying the whole time: it‘s the biggest HP set ever, whatever the subject matter is it has to deserve that honour without the slightest shadow of a doubt  Not sure why people think the MoM is even anywhere close to being a contender here. It‘s simply not iconic or important enough in the grand scheme of things.

Just look at the flagship sets of other themes:

• Star Wars: Millennium Falcon
• Marvel: Helicarrier
• DC: The abovementioned Batcave
• LotR: Orthanc
• HP 2018-2021: Hogwarts / Diagon Alley
• Jurassic World: T-Rex + gate

Hard to find anything more iconic in any of these cases. Exceptions include Barad-dûr, the visitor centre, and the Avengers Tower for LotR, JP, and Marvel respectively, but the three we got are still worthy of the flagship title 

I am one that wants a MoM, but I agree it is not a contender. I think they may do a set from a scene in the MoM, but it wouldn't be a D2C set. 

Imo, it's got to be The Hogwarts Express. They could do a motorized express with a car featuring a scene from each year (year 7 being the epilogue) with Platform 9 3/4 and Hogmeade Station. This would be friendly to all ages, which seems to be important to the HP Lego creator team  

Do we know if there will be any 18+ sets for HP this year? The JP set is 18+ so there is hope. If the D2C is 18+ I think it will be a DH themed Gringotts 

[Textorix]

Ministry of Magic would only work as smaller 50 euro set based on specific scene... which can still happen in this wave. Either way today is the perfect time for HP leak. Yesterday we had Transformers, day before Jurassic World, like there is rly nothing other left so please Promobricks end our suffering :D

Edited February 13, 2022 by Textorix

[Whovastron]

7 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

You mean a set that was less than half the price of the upcoming Harry Potter D2C (and therefore half the size), has a natural cave interior that gives it a lot of wiggle room with the design, heavily features vehicles, and only has a single level beside the entrance? Yeah, not the same thing as far as technical execution goes. 
 

And that doesn’t change the fact that the Batcave >>>>>> the MoM as far as significance to their respective franchises goes. People were willing to put up with a less than pretty wall of taupe studs because the whole sliding down the pole to the Batcave thing is iconic enough that it’s been parodied countless times and even non-fans will immediately recognize the reference – the Ministry of Magic will just never have that clout. 

I’d say the ministry is just as iconic as diagon alley, features just a prominently. Exterior isn’t really a prerequisite for 18+ sets, the display aspect would be gorgeous architecture of the main entrance hall. You say about iconic enough to put such a high price tag on it, but just looking at Lego across the board, and even the Hogwarts icons set, Lego have no problem putting high prices on sets that aren’t really ‘iconic’ or obvious choices. Who would of thought there would be a coliseum or football stations that are multiple hundreds in price. If they think it’ll sell, they’ll make it work.

[BrickBob Studpants]

12 minutes ago, Whovastron said:

I’d say the ministry is just as iconic as diagon alley, features just a prominently.

Does it though? I mean it doesn‘t even appear until the fifth instalment and is only relevant in two of the films  I‘d love to have at least one set based on it, but not with this price tag 

Diagon Alley on the other hand marks the entry into the wizarding world, it appears in almost all of the films, and is heavily featured in the theme park. Definitely more justified in my opinion.

Also, even if you‘ve never had contact with HP before, DA is easily identifiable as an array of magical shops, whereas the MoM is… a governmental institution  Not the same general appeal I would say

12 minutes ago, Whovastron said:

Who would of thought there would be a coliseum or football stations that are multiple hundreds in price. If they think it’ll sell, they’ll make it work.

Those are individual sets, not flagships of a specific theme (ok, Creator Expert is technically a theme, but you know what I mean) 

Edited February 13, 2022 by BrickBob Studpants

[Textorix]

13 minutes ago, Whovastron said:

I’d say the ministry is just as iconic as diagon alley, features just a prominently.

Screen time doesn’t equal to iconicity. Diagon Alley is more iconic, because it was featured in first 2 movies (technically even 3 as Leaky Cauldron from POA is a part of DA) while Ministry of Magic was introduced in 5th movie. That means that in fan’s minds Diagon Alley will always be more iconic than MoM, because the Wizarding World was basically introduced to them through DA. Then there is also the fact that DA is more positive place with that warm magical atmosphere which designers talked about when asked about why they are not doing sets based on DH movies. MoM on the other hand while also kinda iconic is connected with dark and quite traumatic moments in Harry’s life, so as I said it would be better as small playset rather than big flagship D2C set. 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Textorix

[krimimimi]

12 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Diagon Alley on the other hand marks the entry into the wizarding world, it appears in almost all of the films, and is heavily featured in the theme park. Definitely more justified in my opinion.

Also, even if you‘ve never had contact with HP before, DA is easily identifiable as an array of magical shops, whereas the MoM is… a governmental institution  Not the same general appeal I would say

That, plus I'd also argue that even if you aren't an HP fan (supposedly such people exist) the DA buildings generally made for good street builds. With the exception of the wizard tipping its hat on the WWW (easily left out), there's no reason they couldn't be regular shops without serious modding. 

[Accio Lego]

6 hours ago, krimimimi said:

That, plus I'd also argue that even if you aren't an HP fan (supposedly such people exist) the DA buildings generally made for good street builds. With the exception of the wizard tipping its hat on the WWW (easily left out), there's no reason they couldn't be regular shops without serious modding. 

Hmm… I suppose that’s also a compelling argument for why a motorized Hogwarts Express is a distinct possibility for the D2C. 
 

After all, there’s a solid train fanbase in the Lego community and an even wider one outside of it. From what I can remember it’s been awhile since Lego’s done a motorized steam train - if I recall the Disney train didn’t include power functions and I think it’s off the shelves now in any case. 
 

I looked up regular Hogwarts Express models out of curiosity and found a Lionel one with 3 carriages and a dozen track pieces going for $330. Keep in mind that a $470 Lego version would likely include a train station, several minifigs, and a couple other side builds and you’ve got something that could actually put up serious competition against a standard model train. 

[NoOneOfImportance]

17 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

Hmm… I suppose that’s also a compelling argument for why a motorized Hogwarts Express is a distinct possibility for the D2C. 
 

After all, there’s a solid train fanbase in the Lego community and an even wider one outside of it. From what I can remember it’s been awhile since Lego’s done a motorized steam train - if I recall the Disney train didn’t include power functions and I think it’s off the shelves now in any case. 
 

I looked up regular Hogwarts Express models out of curiosity and found a Lionel one with 3 carriages and a dozen track pieces going for $330. Keep in mind that a $470 Lego version would likely include a train station, several minifigs, and a couple other side builds and you’ve got something that could actually put up serious competition against a standard model train. 

I could definitely see a D2C express in the years to come, but I feel like there is definitely pressure for a Gringotts before LEGO keeps pushing it off (not that that necessarily stops them)

[Slytherin Alumni]

I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will be a bit longer before we get the HP leaks. I've now seen 2 different YouTubers make videos on getting the 4 sets releasing in March, but they cannot open them yet. In HollyonFilm's video today, she replied to someone, that she couldn't say the date she was allowed to open yet, but it was 'very late in the month' 

I'm guessing the instructions include pics of the summer sets. Perhaps TLG are wanting to release the summer set list and allow creators to release reviews the same day later in the month to build up hype (as if we haven't already). Also, if the D2C is August/September release, it's announcement may come even later.

Again I say...I hope I'm wrong and we get news tomorrow 

[Accio Lego]

1 hour ago, Slytherin Alumni said:

I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will be a bit longer before we get the HP leaks. I've now seen 2 different YouTubers make videos on getting the 4 sets releasing in March, but they cannot open them yet. In HollyonFilm's video today, she replied to someone, that she couldn't say the date she was allowed to open yet, but it was 'very late in the month' 

I'm guessing the instructions include pics of the summer sets. Perhaps TLG are wanting to release the summer set list and allow creators to release reviews the same day later in the month to build up hype (as if we haven't already). Also, if the D2C is August/September release, it's announcement may come even later.

Again I say...I hope I'm wrong and we get news tomorrow 

I’d say 3+ months was super early to be getting set pictures, but we did get a promo video for the trunk way back at the beginning of December. 
 

And if there are Fantastic Beasts set coming in June whose release couldn’t logistically be bumped up when the movie changed from a July to April premiere, then a good way to compensate would be to start promoting (or even offering preorders) on those sets in March - I presume that adding set pictures to the back of an instruction book is easier than moving multiple set release up three months on super short notice. 

[Whovastron]

I’d be surprised if the D2C was a Hogwarts express. I’d absolutely love it, honestly would be a dream come true, but doesn’t seem a lot for the price tag. If it is a Gringotts, how do we reckon they’ll reach the price? Including a massive interior? Or adding extra buildings like Borgin and Burkes

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 minutes ago, Whovastron said:

[…] but doesn’t seem a lot for the price tag.

That’s my main gripe with the idea. Even a full train with all the coaches and a station doesn’t seem to be enough to justify that price tag  And the other issue is the minifig potential. I don’t really need more random students or the CC cast 

[krimimimi]

13 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

Hmm… I suppose that’s also a compelling argument for why a motorized Hogwarts Express is a distinct possibility for the D2C. 
 

After all, there’s a solid train fanbase in the Lego community and an even wider one outside of it. From what I can remember it’s been awhile since Lego’s done a motorized steam train - if I recall the Disney train didn’t include power functions and I think it’s off the shelves now in any case. 
 

I looked up regular Hogwarts Express models out of curiosity and found a Lionel one with 3 carriages and a dozen track pieces going for $330. Keep in mind that a $470 Lego version would likely include a train station, several minifigs, and a couple other side builds and you’ve got something that could actually put up serious competition against a standard model train. 

It's an excellent argument for the Express (and why I'm also sure the Durmstrang ship will appear eventually, too, despite having a virtual non-role in the films; lots of ship fans out there). At some point we'll see another motorised HE for sure, I'm just not convinced it will be this set.

On the other hand, another argument for it, if you look at the HP mega-sets so far, the four most expensive we've seen in this theme, we had 71043 the nanoscale castle in 2018, 75978 Diagon Alley in 2020, the four art sets to make the Hogwarts seal in 2021, 76391 Hogwarts Icons in 2021. Skipping any one (or all) of those wasn't going to impact your HP lego experience in a marked fashion. You could still complete your minifig scale castle builds and all of the most iconic scenes. The only set that actually impacted the minifig scale experience was the more recent Diagon Alley set. (But I have no doubt if it remains evergreen, they'll make up for it with a very small set with Harry and Lockhart at some point in the future. They can sell it as the scene from the classroom, and kids will just mentally change the setting.) But the bottom line is they seem to choose things that are somewhat adjacent to the stories for the big sets. It's why I'm also pretty sure they wouldn't gate Gringotts behind a price tag like that. 

12 hours ago, Slytherin Alumni said:

if the D2C is August/September release, it's announcement may come even later.

D2C will most definitely be later in the year, it gives them more points in time where we merrily generate buzz for free , and they can keep it under wraps until very shortly before which they seem to have great success doing.  I'd be (very pleasantly) surprised if we hear anything before August. 

29 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

the CC cast 

What's CC?

[BrickBob Studpants]

15 minutes ago, krimimimi said:

What's CC?

The cursed play that shall not be named 

[yori4145]

1 hour ago, Whovastron said:

If it is a Gringotts, how do we reckon they’ll reach the price? Including a massive interior? Or adding extra buildings like Borgin and Burkes

I think it would be very similair to the current Diagon Alley; the 4 buildings would be the Leaky Cauldron, Borgin and Burkes, a random extra like madam malkins/potages cauldrons, and then Gringotts of course. With a Gringotts hopefully being a little larger, plus a couple extras like a dragon/the Leaky Cauldron brick wall, and including inflation, I think they could justify the price increase fairly easily.

[Textorix]

1 hour ago, Whovastron said:

If it is a Gringotts, how do we reckon they’ll reach the price? Including a massive interior? Or adding extra buildings like Borgin and Burkes

Adding more buildings obviously is only option here... if it was just Gringotts it would be very oversized and not in scale with Diagon Alley D2C. 

Edited February 14, 2022 by Textorix

[BacktoBricks]

Just gone on the online Lego shop in the UK and the trunk set which was there and saying Coming Soon and due to release March 1st has vanished. 

I also made an order a few days ago that has supposedly been dispatched and yet seems to have gone nowhere and courier says they don't have it when Lego says they do, so this week is getting better and better. Where are the blasted descriptions. 

[RichardGoring]

I resisted them because they just seemed expensive for what you get, but then found the first four Moments books for $40 total and had to get them. Now, do I get the complete set. Decisions, decisions...

[Brick Clicker]

15 hours ago, Slytherin Alumni said:

I'm guessing the instructions include pics of the summer sets. Perhaps TLG are wanting to release the summer set list and allow creators to release reviews the same day later in the month to build up hype (as if we haven't already). Also, if the D2C is August/September release, it's announcement may come even later.

Some people have already found the sets instore seperate to LAN and there isn't new sets in the back sadly. 

Lego usually leaves the review embargo to pretty close to reveal to get the hype going again most of the time.

[1234567892022]

48 minutes ago, BacktoBricks said:

Just gone on the online Lego shop in the UK and the trunk set which was there and saying Coming Soon and due to release March 1st has vanished. 

I also made an order a few days ago that has supposedly been dispatched and yet seems to have gone nowhere and courier says they don't have it when Lego says they do, so this week is getting better and better. Where are the blasted descriptions. 

I have been having the same thing happen to me, too. And when I go on View All and Sort By Price under HP, it also sometimes make the Hospital Wing disappear. So (fingers crossed) it's just a site issue, and not a stock issue!

I have £20 to spend on Amazon, so I hope the books will be added on there so I can order one. I think I am just going to buy the Hospital Wing and Divination on release day from the Lego Store, order DADA from Amazon and wait on the Trunk for the possibility of promos down the line; as I don't feel I "need" it right away. 

1 minute ago, Brick Clicker said:

Some people have already found the sets instore seperate to LAN and there isn't new sets in the back sadly. 

UGH I wish I could find the Hospital Wing early. I knew there wouldn't be new sets in the back; Lego never does it that early. I would like to see if there is a picture of the HW connected to the 2021 sets, however.

[BacktoBricks]

50 minutes ago, BrickFunatic said:

I have been having the same thing happen to me, too. And when I go on View All and Sort By Price under HP, it also sometimes make the Hospital Wing disappear. So (fingers crossed) it's just a site issue, and not a stock issue!

You're right. The trunk is now back. Typical Lego website. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

24 minutes ago, BacktoBricks said:

You're right. The trunk is now back. Typical Lego website. 

Hey, it’s a magical trunk, after all