Lego colors - coming and going

[Megbricks]

On the subject of color… so many light nougat pieces in the new modular for 2022!!!!

[Mylenium]

6 hours ago, Megbricks said:

On the subject of color… so many light nougat pieces in the new modular for 2022!!!!

Yes, it's nice to see that LEGO begin to recognize their skin color more and more as a regular color useful for other purposes as well.

Mylenium

[Soupperson1]

It seems we might be getting a new shade of brown in between reddish brown and medium nougat in March. I first thought it was odd when they included 10 interchangeable heads in the Hogwarts trunk as there’s only 4 skin tones but I thought the ones of the new skin tone were just as a result of bad rendering. However today the new minidoll Priyanka appears to have a darker skin tone than both Andrea, Liz and Layla who are all on the same page of the catalogue she appears in. 

You can see the new brown second from the top and on this figure. 

And in @Rambo260’s side by side comparison. Priyanka is on the right! 

[TeriXeri]

It's interesting how Duplo is also changing colors a lot over the last 5 years (in it's basic "town" type sets) , overall lighter colors , and more pastel and moving away from the original green/yellow/blue as dominant colors, and now introducing the neon yellow and turqoise.

Edited December 14, 2021 by TeriXeri

[Lyichir]

8 hours ago, Soupperson1 said:

It seems we might be getting a new shade of brown in between reddish brown and medium nougat in March. I first thought it was odd when they included 10 interchangeable heads in the Hogwarts trunk as there’s only 4 skin tones but I thought the ones of the new skin tone were just as a result of bad rendering. However today the new minidoll Priyanka appears to have a darker skin tone than both Andrea, Liz and Layla who are all on the same page of the catalogue she appears in. 
 

You can see the new brown second from the top and on this figure. 
 

And in @Rambo260’s side by side comparison. Priyanka is on the right! 

Hm, this is interesting. Assuming it's not a rendering quirk or error making another current color look different, it feels similar to the older Brown (TLG)/Dark Nougat (BL) that was used for brown Bionicle sets from 2004 to 2005. Additional skin tones certainly don't hurt—I can think of a lot of scenarios where neither Reddish Brown or Medium Nougat would really be accurate. One who comes to mind is Kelly Kapoor (portrayed by Mindy Kaling) in The Office, who may appear in the upcoming Ideas set. And of course it could be useful for other applications as well, particularly if it does turn out to be an older color coming back rather than a brand-new one.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Lyichir

[Mylenium]

On 12/14/2021 at 4:00 PM, Soupperson1 said:

It seems we might be getting a new shade of brown in between reddish brown and medium nougat in March. I first thought it was odd when they included 10 interchangeable heads in the Hogwarts trunk as there’s only 4 skin tones but I thought the ones of the new skin tone were just as a result of bad rendering. However today the new minidoll Priyanka appears to have a darker skin tone than both Andrea, Liz and Layla who are all on the same page of the catalogue she appears in.

Pretty interesting if it's true. I guess we'll ahve to wait and see...

Mylenium

[M_slug357]

But will it still be brittle though...?

*crunch*

[Aanchir]

21 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Hm, this is interesting. Assuming it's not a rendering quirk or error making another current color look different, it feels similar to the older Brown (TLG)/Dark Nougat (BL) that was used for brown Bionicle sets from 2004 to 2005. Additional skin tones certainly don't hurt—I can think of a lot of scenarios where neither Reddish Brown or Medium Nougat would really be accurate. One who comes to mind is Kelly Kapoor (portrayed by Mindy Kaling) in The Office, who may appear in the upcoming Ideas set. And of course it could be useful for other applications as well, particularly if it does turn out to be an older color coming back rather than a brand-new one.

For my part I'm pretty sure Priyanka's skin tone is either Nougat or Medium Nougat, and the apparent difference from other parts in those colors is either just poor scan quality or poor print quality in particular catalog image.

Also, Dark Orange already functions as an intermediate skin tone between Medium Nougat and Reddish Brown, having recently featured as the skin tone of the Pharah minifigure from the 2019 Overwatch sets and of various Duplo figures like the one in 10948 Parking Garage and Car Wash.

Needless to say, it would be odd for LEGO to introduce a new shade of brown as a skin tone for that Harry Potter trunk set, but NOT the Dark Orange color that already appears as bricks and hair pieces elsewhere in the same set. So I think the darker-looking skin on the pink haired figure is just a case of distortion due to the weird lighting effects on that set's box art.

[TeriXeri]

A lot of the catalog/product renders have really oversaturated colors this year, like the City crane looking flame yellow instead of bright yellow, the neon yellow looking eye-hurting bright on the fire set renders as well, and the trans-light blue on the 2022 City Space sets looking like in-between light and regular trans-blue.

However when you go to the 3d rotating images for sets that are already on lego.com, the colors are a lot more normal/natural.

Edit: 02-01-2022 , parts list are out, the Crane is actually flame yellow so correct.

Edited January 2, 2022 by TeriXeri

[Lyichir]

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

A lot of the catalog/product renders have really oversaturated colors this year, like the City crane looking flame yellow instead of bright yellow, the neon yellow looking eye-hurting bright on the fire set renders as well, and the trans-light blue on the 2022 City Space sets looking like in-between light and regular trans-blue.

However when you go to the 3d rotating images for sets that are already on lego.com, the colors are a lot more normal/natural.

Hm... maybe it's a case of images with print colors getting mixed up with ones with web colors? I know that's occasionally been an issue with images in press kits in the past, though I don't remember the shop page having those issues before.

[Mylenium]

On 12/16/2021 at 12:12 AM, TeriXeri said:

A lot of the catalog/product renders have really oversaturated colors this year,

Not just this year... To this day I don't get why LEGO can't manage to consistently render their colors. Since one would have to assume they have all the money in the world to buy expensive equipment and hire high-profile agencies, it really feels like they are intentionally messing around with this over some ill-conceived "lifestyle factor" or something like that.

Mylenium

Edited December 17, 2021 by Mylenium
Fixed typos

[Maple]

With the horrible rendering colors of LEGO in the 2022 pictures I would wait until we have sets in hand to really say if we have a new skintone. 

 

6 hours ago, Mylenium said:

Not just this year... To this day I don't get why LEGO can't manage to consistently render their colors. Since one would have to assume they have all the money in the world to buy expensive equipment and hire high-profile agencies, it realyl feels liek they are intentionally messing around with this over some ill-conceived "lifestyle factor" or something like that.

Mylenium

But if they spent all the money in the world on things like decent picture taking or a functioning website then they wouldn't make billions and billions of dollars / euros / DDKs ever year!

I'm hoping LEGO gets sued for false advertising as the render colors are completely off.

[Lyichir]

1 hour ago, Maple said:

With the horrible rendering colors of LEGO in the 2022 pictures I would wait until we have sets in hand to really say if we have a new skintone. 

 

But if they spent all the money in the world on things like decent picture taking or a functioning website then they wouldn't make billions and billions of dollars / euros / DDKs ever year!

I'm hoping LEGO gets sued for false advertising as the render colors are completely off.

Sorry, what? The idea of suing them because some of the colors in their web photos are a little off is completely daft. There's no court of law in the world that would reasonably find that a minor error like that was a deliberate or reckless attempt to deceive customers.

I swear, some people let their minor grievances with Lego go completely to their heads.

[Maple]

20 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

Sorry, what? The idea of suing them because some of the colors in their web photos are a little off is completely daft. There's no court of law in the world that would reasonably find that a minor error like that was a deliberate or reckless attempt to deceive customers.

I swear, some people let their minor grievances with Lego go completely to their heads.

Where in the USA do you live?
The renderings have gotten so bad LEGO would easily lose. They are already false advertising the printing of minifigures, or should I say miss printing. The yellows are way off. If you buy a set thinking it's one color yellow and it's really another that's false advertising and in the USA LEGO would settle.
Friendly Ice Cream used to have a milkshake called the Cyclone. Dairy Queen Sued because their milkshake was called the Blizzard. Dairy Queen won.
 

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The federal Lanham Act allows civil lawsuits for false advertising that “misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin” of goods or services. 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a). 

Renderings that don't clearly show the correct colors or printings of minifigures fits that.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Maple

[Lyichir]

2 hours ago, Maple said:

Where in the USA do you live?
The renderings have gotten so bad LEGO would easily lose. They are already false advertising the printing of minifigures, or should I say miss printing. The yellows are way off. If you buy a set thinking it's one color yellow and it's really another that's false advertising and in the USA LEGO would settle.
Friendly Ice Cream used to have a milkshake called the Cyclone. Dairy Queen Sued because their milkshake was called the Blizzard. Dairy Queen won.
 

Renderings that don't clearly show the correct colors or printings of minifigures fits that.

You seem to be mistaking the ability to bring a case with the reasonable likelihood of the case being successful. Photos that have been retouched to put their subjects in the best possible light is standard practice in the toy industry. To win a false advertising case about that you'd have to prove that that retouching was actively misrepresenting an explicit or implicit claim about the product and that that misrepresentation would make or break the purchasing decision for a reasonable consumer. Those would be high standards to prove in court if your strongest claim was "the printing looks different in this photo" or "the yellow here looks different".

There's obviously a debate to be had about what types of product images are best for a product like Lego. On one end of the scale you would have a very basic, sterile product image on a plain white backdrop, and on the polar opposite of the scale you'd have something like Hidden Side where the depiction of the product is highly artistic. In between, there's a lot of room for different physical or digital ways of enhancing an image, such as the dramatic lighting and backgrounds or photoshopped motion blur or energy effects. We can have those debates and critique photo choices without getting into absurd flights of fancy about suing Lego in court over it.

[Johnny1360]

I would think you would have a better case with misrepresentation of actual performance, like how they show the recent buggy zooming over little hills, while in reality it's snail's pace performance is laughable at best.

Colors being off seems like really more nit-picking, to me, although I could see how it could be a little grievous, with products other than toys.

Then there is always the, "Contents of box may not match picture on box exactly" excuse, most companies usually pen on the box somewhere.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Johnny1360

[Robert8]

Any new color we might get is great news

Brown is one of those colors that might happen in any theme, so a richer brown palette is very much welcomed

I get why they'd want to keep the amount of colors as low as possible, but now with so many licensed themes they need to be more accurate to the source material

[Mylenium]

On 12/16/2021 at 8:06 PM, Lyichir said:

Those would be high standards to prove in court if your strongest claim was "the printing looks different in this photo" or "the yellow here looks different".

It could be for a car, so in theory it could be for LEGO as well. Agree, though, this would be a tough case to win on any court in the world or even get a reasonable out-of-court settlement. Still, I'm totally with @Maple on this one - LEGO's mis-tweaking of colors and in turn misrepresenting them in their marketing and packaging has gone off the rails. To me it's unfathomable once you assume they could easily pay for the most expensive Hasselblad cameras, costly wide-gamut monitors and all that. Either they have completely untalented people doing this stuff, they really don't care or they intentionally screw with this. A good example for instance are the promo photos for the new Friends sets like the houseboat or the "glamping" scenery. The Medium Azure and Orange in some of the pictures look like completely different colors...

Mylenium

[Maple]

On 12/16/2021 at 2:06 PM, Lyichir said:

 To win a false advertising case about that you'd have to prove that that retouching was actively misrepresenting an explicit or implicit claim about the product and that that misrepresentation would make or break the purchasing decision for a reasonable consumer. 

This is EXACTLY what LEGO is doing!
The yellow on that truck is super bright, I like it. It's better than the new neon yellow. If it were actually that color I'd buy it. I know it's not.
Also the printing of minifigures has been TERRIBLE the last 5 years. They could easily be sued for that as it's a main draw of many shoppers.

What I find most interesting is LEGO only has gotten worse since Hidden Side. I believe the theme failed partly because the box art was so confusing and a mess no one knew exactly what they were getting.

I'm not saying I'm going to sue. You thinking that it's a fantasy someone would sue is being incredibly naive and out of touch with reality. I'll use Friendly Ice Cream as an example again. Someone sued the company because the ice cream container had a picture of a sundae on it an he claimed he was expecting to find a bowl, spoon, whip cream, sprinkles, a cherry. HE WON!!! 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Maple

[koalayummies]

[Toastie]

Dr. Venkman: "What do you see here:"

Me: "Uhmm - bubbles of - sort - of - different color?."

Dr. Venkman: "Wrong" Bzzzzzzzzz. (My chewing gum flies out of my mouth).

...

Dr. Venkman: "Nervous???"

Me: "I don't like this"

Dr. Venkman: "You only have 75 more to go"

Best
Thorsten

 

[Maple]

Nice to see that some people on here are just terrible people. How do I block people?

[Toastie]

Maybe some people here just have a different take on colors?

I mean - some people here apparently are ready to sue for "wrong" colors - some people here cannot care less, and just have fun with the bricks and plates.

It is up to you to judge them as terrible.

I believe you can go to your profile and then do what you want.

[TeriXeri]

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Edited January 2, 2022 by TeriXeri

[Robert8]

I get the jokes but in some cases TLG's renders have been very deceitful, like Lady Iron Dragon minifigure