Pirates Mafia III - Day Two

[Fred Dumont]

12 hours ago, Robin Tremblay said:

Yes. Daniel has finally said something useful after pages and pages of text. If true, I will recall my vote for him. 

Exactly.

9 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said:

Perfect example why Town is braindead. Why would you believe me because of this? How would you know I'm not a scum Roleblocker? You are either scum at this point or you don't even know your own game. This is how I ended up being THE unhelpful. My God.

I don't know if you are or not. I know what I am and am not, and if your target you claim (below) verifies this, then there's a better chance you're town, because I do't think if you're scum you'd willingly say you blocked another scum role, there's too much at risk for such a gamble.

4 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said:

Hmm, actually you are right. I was stalling, I needed some time to think it through myself, but your and Trenton's points are true.

My target was Alex Howe, he was jailed successfully.

So, @Alex Howe, is this true? Were you unsuccessful in a night action if you have an action? Was anyone else who might have targeted Alex unsuccessful? Now, I'm not asking what your roles are, just if an action was performed.

[Vincent Denis]

*Fwom fwom fwom—:look: wait, what?

6 minutes ago, Fred Dumont said:

Was anyone else who might have targeted Alex unsuccessful? 

I'm sorry. This strikes me as hilarious. If Alex was targeted by a jailkeeper, the only action that would've targeted him and been unsuccessful would be killer. Are you asking if anyone tried to kill Alex last night?    

*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

 

[Emmett Ware]

 

9 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said:

Perfect example why Town is braindead. Why would you believe me because of this? How would you know I'm not a scum Roleblocker? You are either scum at this point or you don't even know your own game. This is how I ended up being THE unhelpful. My God.

You are a bastard. Perhaps a Jester, a completely different kind of bastard than the kind you appear to be, but at least one with a purpose. That possibility is the only complication to this whole situation. Once again, you have not helped the town with your sudden roleclaim and your continued attacks and rambling nonsense. You're either sowing confusion as scum, trying to cause enough grief and aggravation to get lynched as a jester, or you're the worst townie I've ever seen and have now wasted a useful role. Good job.  

It's a risk I'm willing to take. My vote stands.

[Fred Dumont]

45 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said:

*Fwom fwom fwom—:look: wait, what?

I'm sorry. This strikes me as hilarious. If Alex was targeted by a jailkeeper, the only action that would've targeted him and been unsuccessful would be killer. Are you asking if anyone tried to kill Alex last night?    

*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

 

There is a variant of the jailkeeper role variant that makes it's target untargetable by any action that night. Without knowing the flavor of the text that was sent to Mr. Lucas, it is possible that Mr. Lucas is the stronger type.

[Daniel Lucas]

22 minutes ago, Emmett Ware said:

You are a bastard. Perhaps a Jester, a completely different kind of bastard than the kind you appear to be, but at least one with a purpose. That possibility is the only complication to this whole situation. Once again, you have not helped the town with your sudden roleclaim and your continued attacks and rambling nonsense. You're either sowing confusion as scum, trying to cause enough grief and aggravation to get lynched as a jester, or you're the worst townie I've ever seen and have now wasted a useful role. Good job.  

It's a risk I'm willing to take. My vote stands.

Why would I be a Jester when I was ALREADY the most voted on? Are you real? This is exactly what I was furious about. All this talk makes total nonsense from a Town. This is why I said town is braindead. You don't even know your own game.

After your little pep talk about how you acted when you was an actual scum (oh please, is that so?) and the complete unspecific mess you just threw in by saying there is no need for any debate IS NOT HOW TOWN PLAYS.

I did not help town? Are you nuts? You asked me about my PM to Vincent. I answered. And you gave F*CKING NO RESPONSE to my answers.

Why? Did I just convinced you that actually that made a little sense? Or did I not convince you? Why not saying anything then? Why not pointing out with the actual arguments I've made that I was unhelpful? Where have you disappeared to just vote for me out of the blue with a total generic, unspecific parrot talk, some totally potential scum was already throwing around?

The sentence you've just quoted is perfectly true. What Fred said is NOT a good reason to believe me. That is not a proof, that's it. Take any risk you want, but what I've said is a FACT. If he is going to believe me that because of this it is his own business, but as an actual Town I have to point out that it is wrong. You see, this is I am actually the helpful here.

And as Vincent points it out, Fred even now gives a bit messy now:

37 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said:

I'm sorry. This strikes me as hilarious. If Alex was targeted by a jailkeeper, the only action that would've targeted him and been unsuccessful would be killer. Are you asking if anyone tried to kill Alex last night?    

Up to this point I thought Fred talks about my target confirming he was blocked, Fred even said there is no need to reveal his role. Why would he need to somehow confirmed he was been unsuccessfully targeted by a killer? Since I did not protect him from night actions.

I'm being one of the most helpful one if you would just start to actually read the lines. And if you are town, you are not paying attention. Stop crying about the texts I've made that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from a Town. That is ALL information.

I was the only one keep saying and asking people to read it. The only one.

[Daniel Lucas]

Also if I'm a Jester, actually Alex can prove you wrong. Because if he confirms he was blocked, the worst case scenario - again, as I've pointed out to Fred - I'm a scum roleblocker.

Go learn the game mechanics, please. If you are town, you are the unhelpful having no idea what is going on.

[Aiden Leon]

Hello I'm back.

6 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said:

My target was Alex Howe, he was jailed successfully.

Thanks m8. 

1 hour ago, Vincent Denis said:

If Alex was targeted by a jailkeeper, the only action that would've targeted him and been unsuccessful would be killer.

Unless the jailer blocks the target from all PRs.

[Trenton Monette]

Yeah, the "Alien" variant of the Jailkeeper. Where all PR roles are unsuccessful when they target the person who was jailed. Either way wouldn't it just expose who has a role? 

[Daniel Lucas]

2 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

Unless the jailer blocks the target from all PRs.

I can confirm that this is not the case. I'm not protecting from night actions, only the kill.

Just now, Trenton Monette said:

Either way wouldn't it just expose who has a role? 

You are right, yes. We should stop thinking of doing that nonsense, also there is no need for it because of my answer above. Again you all can't possible be scum, so if Fred and Emmett are town, I'm desperate. I know I'm an ass, but I am right here. They should start utilizing their alignment properly.

 

And to show Town why am I actually constantly being helpful, let me do the work alone AGAIN:

Alex being succesfully jailed means he is no killer. He still can be scum, but considering there is possibly just a single killer with the Scum it was surely not Alex, as we all know, Remi was killed. Unless some other scum got some one-shot kill ticket (if he is actually a scum), he is not the other one.

I'm not implying that he is another type of scum by this. We don't know, I jailed him because as I've pointed out yesterday he was scummy to me with that contradictional noob-experienced act. Also a lurker and I just hate these big mouthed lurkers. If not being a Town, I'd gladly lynch all of them just to end this nonsense.

What we know is that we actually don't know for sure. Yesterday I would have been okay with an Alex lynch as I've said so, today with this new information, I'd say no.

I had possibly a 3/15 probability (since no recruits, we have 3 scums, right?) to hit a scum and 12/15 for a Town. Since we knew it wasn't the killer that changes to a (3/15 * 2/3) probability of Alex being a scum. With possible one-shot kills, this whole calculation is being distorted and I can't really do it in head right now but it is highly unlikely that it would happen the same night. And the result would still imply the same.

So yes, my read from this is that Alex is quite possibly Town. Is it a proof? No. Can he be still scum? Yes. Is he a good vote for today? No.

Also since some people can't stop throwing around nonsense deductions, I actually say @Alex Howe now should confirm he was blocked. If he says he was not, you lynch me. If I flip town, you might finally start to realize between two j*rkoffs, that I was talking sense. And then you can lynch Alex for lying. Also if he says yes, you might try to think twice about taking any risk and using actually valid arguments for my potential lynching.

 

[Aiden Leon]

10 minutes ago, Trenton Monette said:

Either way wouldn't it just expose who has a role? 

Right which they shouldn't go and do right here. Everyone with PRs can use it for their own reads but that's pretty much.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

I actually say @Alex Howe now should confirm he was blocked.

He may not have a role, and if he does then he shouldn't claim. Nobody should claim.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

I can confirm that this is not the case. I'm not protecting from night actions, only the kill.

Oh okay so then the only person that knows if your telling the truth asside from yourself is Alex and anyone who may have tried to kill him last night.

And Alex only knows if he has a PR. 

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

Alex being succesfully jailed means he is no killer.

Unless he's a vig or something.

1 minute ago, Daniel Lucas said:

we have 3 scums, right?

Only the scum know for sure. Last game we had three but we could have more or less.

 

[Daniel Lucas]

Just now, Aiden Leon said:

He may not have a role, and if he does then he shouldn't claim. Nobody should claim.

Hmm, That is half-true. Knowing Bob I'd say there are no vanillas again, but fair enough, there is the possibility. It's fucked up, because if Alex would say he won't say anything, my gut would shut scum to him.

But okay, it is a valid point. This case you have to think it through yourself what you do today with this information.

5 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

Unless he's a vig or something.

No, I think you are wrong here. Unless someone ELSE is a vig. Since we got a kill today. This case Alex is probably scum.

But also, he can be a vig himself for sure. but I think it does not matter in this situation now.

[Jean Pelley]

11 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said:

I want you to use your brain if you are town, FFS.

Mon dieu, man, get off that high horse of yours. Engaging in extended shouting matches with members of the garrison is not helpful and I can hardly believe you'd be so full of yourself to think it is. Turns out it didn't take a rambling screed from Aiden and Trenton to convince you to reveal your target last night. Who da thunk?

46 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

What we know is that we actually don't know for sure. Yesterday I would have been okay with an Alex lynch as I've said so, today with this new information, I'd say no.

I had possibly a 3/15 probability (since no recruits, we have 3 scums, right?) to hit a scum and 12/15 for a Town. Since we knew it wasn't the killer that changes to a (3/15 * 2/3) probability of Alex being a scum. With possible one-shot kills, this whole calculation is being distorted and I can't really do it in head right now but it is highly unlikely that it would happen the same night. And the result would still imply the same.

So yes, my read from this is that Alex is quite possibly Town. Is it a proof? No. Can he be still scum? Yes. Is he a good vote for today? No.

So do you have any suggestions as to who we should lynch today? Or are you going to continue stating the obvious, that Alex probably isn't the scum killer but it's still possible he's scum? Your vote for Aiden seems not to be going anywhere, so who would you vote for if not for Aiden?

44 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

Unless he's a vig or something.

34 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

No, I think you are wrong here. Unless someone ELSE is a vig. Since we got a kill today. This case Alex is probably scum.

What? You assert Alex couldn't be a killer, Aiden points out he could actually be a vigilante, and you just say "you're wrong"? Aiden's comment is true. It's less likely that Alex is a vigilante than a scum-bum-chum who just didn't kill last night, but we can't just say he cannot be a vigilante.

 

[Fred Dumont]

2 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said:

And as Vincent points it out, Fred even now gives a bit messy now:

Up to this point I thought Fred talks about my target confirming he was blocked, Fred even said there is no need to reveal his role. Why would he need to somehow confirmed he was been unsuccessfully targeted by a killer? Since I did not protect him from night actions.

1 hour ago, Trenton Monette said:

Yeah, the "Alien" variant of the Jailkeeper. Where all PR roles are unsuccessful when they target the person who was jailed. Either way wouldn't it just expose who has a role? 

I'm under the assumption that everyone has a role in this game. It's expected at this point. And yes, I was meaning the "alien" variant of the role.

1 hour ago, Daniel Lucas said:

I can confirm that this is not the case. I'm not protecting from night actions, only the kill.

While we can't truly believe you since you can't quote PMs, this is the biggest piece of evidence for me of you possibly being town now--at least until Alex speaks.

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I had possibly a 3/15 probability (since no recruits, we have 3 scums, right?) to hit a scum and 12/15 for a Town. Since we knew it wasn't the killer that changes to a (3/15 * 2/3) probability of Alex being a scum. With possible one-shot kills, this whole calculation is being distorted and I can't really do it in head right now but it is highly unlikely that it would happen the same night. And the result would still imply the same.

Eh, more like 3-4/15 chance. Since if we estimate at worst for the town 1/4 players are scum, right?

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So yes, my read from this is that Alex is quite possibly Town. Is it a proof? No. Can he be still scum? Yes. Is he a good vote for today? No.

Also since some people can't stop throwing around nonsense deductions, I actually say @Alex Howe now should confirm he was blocked. If he says he was not, you lynch me. If I flip town, you might finally start to realize between two j*rkoffs, that I was talking sense. And then you can lynch Alex for lying. Also if he says yes, you might try to think twice about taking any risk and using actually valid arguments for my potential lynching.

As others have mentioned, we should consider the possibility of Mr. Howe being a vigilante. But we wait on him to confirm if he was blocked or not. 

[Aiden Leon]

Just now, Fred Dumont said:

But we wait on him to confirm if he was blocked or not. 

No! You MFers are foaming at the mouth for ppl to claim. 

[Daniel Lucas]

Just now, Jean Pelley said:

Mon dieu, man, get off that high horse of yours. Engaging in extended shouting matches with members of the garrison is not helpful and I can hardly believe you'd be so full of yourself to think it is. Turns out it didn't take a rambling screed from Aiden and Trenton to convince you to reveal your target last night. Who da thunk?

Okay Jean. I honestly think you are using double standards here. Tell me if I am wrong, but let me say why:

Fred and Emmett just proved they are just called my unhelpful out of nowehere whily saying totally illogical things. Even Trenton and Aiden pointed them out. They don't know this game or pretending. But if they're town they are on the high horse by joining a mafia game, staying in the background while everybody has all the ability to read everything and comment any time they want, and all they do is throwing around votes. Emmett even told me dircetly, "there is no need for debate". When a self-proclaimed town says there is no need for debate, THAT is the high horse. How is it nobody calls upon him after sayin such a thing? Even if I would be confirmed traitor, this is just scum talk.

Also Jean, where were you yestereday when I've got the same talk from Vincent and Aiden. Where were you? Honestly. Where? I had to defend myself alone because I dared to accuse them and they hijacekd almost a whole page with memeposting. Where were you all objectivity judges, when it happened? None of you came to help me make it stop. None of you voiced it might be a scum tactic. Like this would be not a mafia game with experienced players but some random off-topic thread.

They were dilutin my argument posts with videos and meme pictures, and people calling me the unhelpful. If you are town, you are playing against yourself at the moment. That is my honest opinion, Jean. And I am perfectly capable of not using any insults if Town would just finally start playing the game they joined to.

5 minutes ago, Jean Pelley said:

So do you have any suggestions as to who we should lynch today? Or are you going to continue stating the obvious, that Alex probably isn't the scum killer but it's still possible he's scum? Your vote for Aiden seems not to be going anywhere, so who would you vote for if not for Aiden?

I have a suggestion, I'm still voting for Aiden. He made very valid point right now, and we had finally a good discussion I think. Also both of have proved that we can be reasonable and this just bugs me. I don't know why would Aiden just throw around cynical posts if not to dilute again when something actually useful for town was said. This is my scumtells at the moment. If Aiden would just forgive me that I'm accusing him and we can continue to make discussions like this, I will change my vote on him.

Also you are intentionally or not, but misinterpreting what I've said about Alex. Stating what obvious, no one clarified it out loud? Don't you think you are using double standards again? People were calling me unhelpful, but when I clarify something concisely it becomes redundantly obvious? Why do we have any discussion at all then? I've said what I've said, I had a suspicion of Alex, he was jailed and this changes my opinion on him as likely Town. But it is not sure and I think I have the right to point out this, don't you think?

10 minutes ago, Jean Pelley said:

What? You assert Alex couldn't be a killer, Aiden points out he could actually be a vigilante, and you just say "you're wrong"? Aiden's comment is true. It's less likely that Alex is a vigilante than a scum-bum-chum who just didn't kill last night, but we can't just say he cannot be a vigilante.

You are mixing terms up. With killer, I mean Scum killer. I don't call vigilante a killer. Yes it can kill, but we always use vigilante, since scum killer has no anything else as a specific name.

It was not right sayin Aiden was wrong technically, it is true. Alex can be a vigilante. I've meant that Aiden uses this with a wrong suggestion, sorry for my bad english about that. If I jailed a vigilante Alex I think it does not matter. If you say the vigilante killed Remi, I say that it should mean that Alex was quite likely a scum killer, because without a successful protective action there would've been two kills.

[Jean Pelley]

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

You are mixing terms up. With killer, I mean Scum killer. I don't call vigilante a killer. Yes it can kill, but we always use vigilante, since scum killer has no anything else as a specific name.

You are unnecessarily splitting hairs in an attempt to feel superior.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

Also Jean, where were you yestereday when I've got the same talk from Vincent and Aiden. Where were you? Honestly. Where? I had to defend myself alone because I dared to accuse them and they hijacekd almost a whole page with memeposting. Where were you all objectivity judges, when it happened? None of you came to help me make it stop. None of you voiced it might be a scum tactic. Like this would be not a mafia game with experienced players but some random off-topic thread.

They were dilutin my argument posts with videos and meme pictures, and people calling me the unhelpful. If you are town, you are playing against yourself at the moment. That is my honest opinion, Jean. And I am perfectly capable of not using any insults if Town would just finally start playing the game they joined to.

And I'm perfectly capable of sitting back and thinking without running my mouth in thread, and it was through that process I have come to the conclusion Joshua is scum.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

Also you are intentionally or not, but misinterpreting what I've said about Alex. Stating what obvious, no one clarified it out loud? Don't you think you are using double standards again? People were calling me unhelpful, but when I clarify something concisely it becomes redundantly obvious? Why do we have any discussion at all then? I've said what I've said, I had a suspicion of Alex, he was jailed and this changes my opinion on him as likely Town. But it is not sure and I think I have the right to point out this, don't you think?

You jailed Alex. Therefore he is not the player who killed Remi in the night. No shit. Thanks for your insight, monsieur.

Personally I find memes and youtube videos more amusing than self-righteous pamphlets. It's almost as if you're the one who got crucified.

[Bob]

"What are you doing, Emmett?" Peter asked.

"Serving lunch, Lieutenant, of course!"

"Oh boy! I sure am hungry!" Alex said.

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Vote Count:
Aiden Leon - 1 (Daniel Lucas)
Joshua Levitt - 3 (Jean Pelley, Andrew Laurent, Vincent Denis)
Daniel Lucas - 4 (Robin Tremblay, Fred Dumont, Emmett Ware, Joshua Levitt)
Vincent Denis - 1 (Justin Reynaud)

With 14 players, a majority of 8 is required. About 46 or so hours remain in this day.

[Fred Dumont]

9 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

No! You MFers are foaming at the mouth for ppl to claim. 

Wait, sarcasm? I don't care if somone claims their role in thread or not. I just want to know if success or unsuccessful was a result right now. The scum know already who is successful or unsuccessful by them being able to communicate (add on some hours because they have to wait until night to communicate). The individual scum certainly know if their actions were successful, because they most likely coordinated and sent actions in at the last minute, so they know who each player targeted. If a scum killed Remi, they know there's a good chance their killer was successful, unless both the scum killer and a possible vigilante both targeted him, then it's a toss up until night begins.

9 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

Fred and Emmett just proved they are just called my unhelpful out of nowehere whily saying totally illogical things. Even Trenton and Aiden pointed them out. They don't know this game or pretending. But if they're town they are on the high horse by joining a mafia game, staying in the background while everybody has all the ability to read everything and comment any time they want, and all they do is throwing around votes. Emmett even told me dircetly, "there is no need for debate". When a self-proclaimed town says there is no need for debate, THAT is the high horse. How is it nobody calls upon him after sayin such a thing? Even if I would be confirmed traitor, this is just scum talk.

I honestly do not see where I've been illogical, but ok, you do you, Mr. Lucas. That being said, if Mr. Howe confirms his successful/unsuccessful status if we all have night actions, which I believe we do, I will gladly remove my vote from you, even if it damages my reputation, because I would believe you are town. I do not think the scum could coordinate such a move like this in this game with the rules set as they are, at least this early in the game.

 

[Daniel Lucas]

Just now, Jean Pelley said:

You are unnecessarily splitting hairs in an attempt to feel superior.

And I'm perfectly capable of sitting back and thinking without running my mouth in thread, and it was through that process I have come to the conclusion Joshua is scum.

You jailed Alex. Therefore he is not the player who killed Remi in the night. No shit. Thanks for your insight, monsieur.

How are you being helpful with this? What is your conclusion, I'm not sure I understand. I gave you a correct answer and now you just selectively made some cynical post. This is the very same thing which kept feeding my hunch against Aiden.

Yes, it was obvious in your opinion. Now what? I was being unhelpful? Was it 100% obvious for anybody else? Should we just not analyse night actions because you"ll shout "NO SHIT"? 

I know of your conlusion of Josuha, and honestly I don't like it. Why? I don't see why Andrew not voting second for Joshua in a poke vote would make them buddies. Why would you make any poke vote in the first place if you are going to avoid your buddy? Might be true, but for a D2 vote this is not enough for me. In my opinion we already have much better scumtells in our hands. Also I think you should first vote on Andrew because of this, not Joshua. The fact that Vincent was calling Andrew the dangerous scum, but both of you now voting for Joshua together gives me a hunch against you two. I did not like Vincent's reason as well on Joshua today, because it was feeding from the same observation. Yes, I'm defending Joshua, you don't have to accuse me of that.

From all of you at the moment, Andrew, Justin and Joshua are town in my opinion. I also think Fred might be town and while I was rude to him for the reasons mentioned above, I think he was not trying to twist things around at least.

And since you just said you were thinking without running your mouth against spam memeposting in a mafia game, but you are just always running your mouth against me tells me you are totally and selectively onto me since I've accused Vincent. And the fact you jumped on my observation on Vincent's PM warning, mixing up the totally important different I've pointed out (which is still a scum tell in my opinion), also for some reason did not reply to my explanation to that, just tells me you were also trying to push the thread away from that. If that was not a scum tell for you, but Andrew's second poke vote not going to Josuha is just to create a wagon, I don't know why would I listen to you.

If I'm not voting for Aiden, I would vote for you at the moment. So which one should it be?

[Jean Pelley]

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

you are just always running your mouth against me tells me you are totally and selectively onto me since I've accused Vincent.

I just find you really fucking annoying, that's all. I don't actually think you're scummy.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

From all of you at the moment, Andrew, Justin and Joshua are town in my opinion.

Actually this is really interesting, because announcing confident townreads is Andrew's strategy. This is the first actually scummy thing I think you've said all game.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

If I'm not voting for Aiden, I would vote for you at the moment. So which one should it be?

Go the fuck ahead, see if I care.

[Daniel Lucas]

11 minutes ago, Jean Pelley said:

Go the fuck ahead, see if I care.

Talking of high horse. Welcome to the club.

[Vincent Denis]

*Fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

1 hour ago, Daniel Lucas said:

If I flip town, you might finally start to realize between two j*rkoffs, that I was talking sense.

It's hard to tell which two jerkoffs you would be referring to as you've insulted everyone who has questioned you. And your volume of posting makes it difficult to find sense anywhere.

32 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

They were dilutin my argument posts with videos and meme pictures, and people calling me the unhelpful.

I made exactly one meme post. You made more meme/video posts than I did. How exactly would I dilute your argument with other people calling you unhelpful?  I lack the ability to make other people call you things.

18 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

The fact that Vincent was calling Andrew the dangerous scum, but both of you now voting for Joshua together gives me a hunch against you two. I did not like Vincent's reason as well on Joshua today, because it was feeding from the same observation. Yes, I'm defending Joshua, you don't have to accuse me of that.

From all of you at the moment, Andrew, Justin and Joshua are town in my opinion. I also think Fred might be town and while I was rude to him for the reasons mentioned above, I think he was not trying to twist things around at least.

Daniel, do you think Andrew, Justin, Joshua and Fred are all town, because I've voiced suspicions about them? Are you defending all of the people I specifically suspect? If that's your reasoning, you're still in the rose garden because I'm town. I'm a loyal soldier. I'm not scum. Trusting all of the people one person is suspecting is a bad tactic. Do you think someone playing scum would only voice suspicions of townies?

*Fwom fwomma fwommma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

[Aiden Leon]

12 minutes ago, Jean Pelley said:

I just find you really fucking annoying, that's all. I don't actually think you're scummy.

Actually this is really interesting, because announcing confident townreads is Andrew's strategy. This is the first actually scummy thing I think you've said all game.

Go the fuck ahead, see if I care.

Don't go into his hole. 

That came out weird but you get the point.

[Daniel Lucas]

Just now, Vincent Denis said:

Daniel, do you think Andrew, Justin, Joshua and Fred are all town, because I've voiced suspicions about them? Are you defending all of the people I specifically suspect? If that's your reasoning, you're still in the rose garden because I'm town. I'm a loyal soldier. I'm not scum. Trusting all of the people one person is suspecting is a bad tactic. Do you think someone playing scum would only voice suspicions of townies?

I'm not sure. This is what I feel. You want my reasons? Everything they've said is concise, while I don't think the same of other people. As I've pointed out at the end of the day, if you and Aiden would've wanted me on them, you should've stopped poking around with 4th wall breakings and redundant chit-chat meme posts when I only asked you for clear arguments and not personal oneliners and picky remarks. I posted that video to show you how phatetic and toxic is what you were doing. Jean just confessed giving a shit about that, but finding me - the one who plays the game - more annoying. This is again classic empty scum talk. If you find people trying to make actual statements annoying, don't play a mafia game.

I asked truly honestly you to stop fwooming for this reason, because by now those lines together are already taking a serious proportion of all the pages we've made so far and it would've been made even your posts more easier to read, if that would've been truly your intention. This is a text based game and considering that experienced players doing it, we all now why obviously it is a useless voice. In my experience with this game on this and other platforms, that is an intentional scum tool dedicated exactly to this function. I say this, you say otherwise. End of story.

Just now, Aiden Leon said:

Don't go into his hole. 

Why am I not surprised, honestly. Even now as we've managed to made some really useful discussion, and both of us were correct with the other one, you instantly just go to meme again with the first person that jumps on me, suggesting he is right and Daniel is just a silly-sausage lad. You guys just really don't want me to stop taking you as scum. You perfectly fine with it. This is how I ended up having the most posts. This is all coordinated in my opinion and Aiden, Vincent.

You had the perfect moment now to finally make amends with me after my role claim. You say you have suspicion of Andrew, Josuha but you are still spending more time picking on me.

Really there's nothing to say more. Everything is pretty much documented and it only takes now some time to read and decide who are we lynching today.

I'm done for D2.

[Jean Pelley]

>thinks people who post concisely are town

>does not post concisely

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