Bob Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Players Only Please in your anonymous accounts! Make sure you change your password! Day Two: An Explosive Encounter It was day for night, and Remi Blaise is walking down by the dock on a midnight patrol on his way back to the Clipper. "I don't see anyone suspicious around me, so I can't be the target. Why is the host misdirecting?" he asked. High above, however, a shadowy figure is using the fort's cannon on Remi. KABLAM! Poor Remi explodes into a bunch of different pieces as the cannonball pierces through him. It's LEGO physics, don't ask questions. Meanwhile... "Hi everyone! You might have noticed that I didn't say anything yesterday. That's because nobody was playing as me!" Michael Lavoie said. With that said, he collapsed and died. The next morning, everyone else awoke to the sounds of music. The Governor was on his third morning mimosa as he addressed the crowd. "Unfortunately, last night we lost two good people. Both Remi Blaise and Michael Lavoie were Loyal Soldiers. They shall be missed." --- Day Two has now begun! There are 96 hours left in this day. With 14 players, a majority of 8 is required to sent someone to the firing line. Players (14): Governor Broadside - NPC Jean Pelley - Lieutenant, First Mate Fred Dumont - Lieutenant Peter Lyon - Lieutenant of the Fort Daniel Lucas - Seaman Trenton Monette - Sergeant Justin Reynaud - Soldier Emmett Ware - Soldier Andrew Laurent - Soldier Aiden Leon - Soldier Joshua Levitt - Soldier Alex Howe - Soldier Fabien Bellamy - Trumpeter Vincent Denis - Tubist Robin Tremblay - Conductor The Dead: Remi Blaise - Blown to pieces on Night One (Loyal Soldier) Michael Lavoie - Mod-killed on Night One (Loyal Soldier) Rules (VERY IMPORTANT):1) Every player has received their own character account. Make sure you do not post in thread with your normal Eurobricks account. This game is anonymous, you are not to disclose your character anywhere on the forums. In thread, you must not say who you actually are. 2) In addition, it is a bit of an honor rule that you do not share who you are to any other player, even if they are on your team, in private.3) You are either a Loyal Soldier or an Imperial Guard. The town need to eliminate the scum and the scum need to outnumber the town. In the hopefully unlikely event of a parity, the scum will win. Any third party characters have their own win conditions.4) There are no recruits or any action similar in this game.5) A game day will last 96 hours. You may vote as soon as the day starts. Note, even if a majority vote is achieved, the day will not end early. Nights will last at most 48 hours, during which you can send in your night actions. If the day length needs to be shortened at any time, I will make that decision. 5a) Do not talk about the game outside of the threads. You can only PM during the night phase, please, including scum.6) The alignment of players who have been lynched, as well as those who may have died during the night, will be revealed at the beginning of the next day. The person playing the character that died will not be revealed until the end of the game.7) You may not quote or pretend to quote anything sent to you by the game host via PM. This includes the details of your character and role, as well as any night actions results. Role claims and reporting of results are acceptable, but in your own words only.8) If you die, you may not post in thread or discuss the game with any players. Any information you had is null and void and is not allowed to be passed on under any circumstances. When you die, you are not to reveal your identity or participation if you decided to sign up anonymously.9) Don't edit your posts, please! 10) Please try to post every day!11) There's no clues in pictures or the minifigures 12) I encourage roleplay with your characters! I have given some flavor text, but feel free to make them your own! Please ensure you are posting in the anonymous accounts that I have sent to you! Do not post in your Eurobricks account!
Fred Dumont Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Well, I can't say I'm surprised about Mr. Lavoie's death. Mr. Blaise was fairly quiet yesterday. He appears to be a relatively easy target if he was a scum kill as not too much attention would be drawn, no?
Vincent Denis Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 *Bwom fwom fwomma fwomma* Um, sorry to immediately post and take up more space after yesterday's marathon squabbles with Daniel. Let me explain something important, though. Lucas PMed me last night and asked if I was ready to work with him. Ever PM the person you're most suspicious of and ask them to work together? To me, it's concerning. Prodding Daniel further about this concern, he claims that he PMed others to ask their opinion of me and he "got the feeling I'd be truly town" from those conversations. Regarding that, can anyone confirm having these conversations with him? Otherwise, it seems forced like maybe his scum buddies told him he went too far and should try to smooth it over. Or he was fishing for my night action. Feels weird to me that he would be so sure all day that I was scum and then suddenly ask to work together. Some other gems from our conversations were him telling me that working with him would be my "best shot." Um, something about it being my choice to trust him or not and not to say later that he hadn't proposed it. Really not sure what to make of any of that. Very odd interaction. I daresay the strangest day and night 1 I've ever experienced. Very annoying, altogether and I'm including my own behavior in that. Oh no, don't want to rehash any, just thought it important to report the odd night interaction after yesterday's events. Right now, though, I'd like to look at what Remi contributed yesterday. *Fwooooom fwom fwooooooom fwom fwooooooom fwooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooom*
Vincent Denis Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Remi didn't even vote yesterday. He questioned Andrew about his post that seemed to suggest we might not have any night actions. Then he asked for clarification from Jean regarding his vote for Justin, saying Jean looked scummy for suggesting allowing others to change our viewpoints was scummy. Fred jumped to the quick conclusion that scum targeted Remi because he wasn't likely to be watched or protected. I'm assuming that's what Fred meant. Were the scum trying to implicate Jean or Andrew? Or was Remi onto something with Jean or Andrew? Speaking of Mr. Dumont: On 4/8/2020 at 11:33 AM, Fred Dumont said: I stand by my choice in voting for him, for the record. I would hope he's not scum and just a mistake, but I would not want to let an easy vote fly by like his could have if it was not brought attention to. I can see your logic and reasoning here, as well as Mr. Lucas' in his post above mine. While I do stand by my vote, I also stated earlier I would be in favor of a lynch if we could reach it. Thus... Unvote: Robin Tremblay Vote: Aiden Leon This pinged me yesterday that you would twice mention standing by your vote in the same post in which you changed your vote. Especially echoing the word's of scummy Justin and blabbering Daniel, neither of which I felt had compelling reasons for voting for Aiden. Daniel might, but I don't have much luck in discerning what he's saying in his massive posts (I know that people who live in wall of text houses, shouldn't throw walls of text...). But, with few hours left in the day, you twice voted for who the person a couple posts above you had voted for, all while touting your desire to have a day 1 lynch. As Peter Lyon pointed out, you broached this topic and then waited for others to respond before sharing your own opinion. Then re-iterated that opinion with almost all of your posts. The reasons you stated for your votes seem more like someone looking for wagon momentum than having their own reasonings. Justin, I asked you questions at the end of day 1 and I'd appreciate a response that goes beyond "I got people talking," please. *Fwooooom fwom fwommma fwom Fwoooom fwoooooooom fwoooooooom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom Fwooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!*
Aiden Leon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Holy shit what a way to go. Anyways just a few quick things from yesterday. On 4/8/2020 at 10:05 AM, Justin Reynaud said: You jumped in to defend Vincent, I'll say it again for the billionth time. I was not in the defense of Vincent but the offense of Daniel. Quote and now you are defending yourself like the entire town called you scum. You and what army? Quote If you were town, then you would try to defend your actions There was nothing to defend in the first place. Quote Scum would know I'm town and would be worried about others seeing through the mask it seems I've pulled off your face. On 4/8/2020 at 11:15 AM, Daniel Lucas said: This clearly shows how serious your vote for me was. It is still not clear what was your purpose with that No I made it very clear that I wished to lynch you because you were being a pain in the butt. It's called a policy lynch. Quote Honestly, you Justin, Andrew and Joshua's contribution were totally right on since the beginning. You are right about Aiden throwing empty and unspecific f-bombs all over the place. Also the Godfather note is a more useful in itself than all of their ~50 posts together. Andrew had a totally correct insight on Day 1 lynching and first votes, which was the whole idea he was picked upon by my 3 suspect. And Joshua is also right pointing out the danger of Vincent's and my debate. This weirds me out. Quote Only that I went along truly because of their respones which were just full on scummy Yeah right. Everything after this was basically you copypasta-ing what I said about you.
Peter Lyon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 You'd think someone would've heard the cannon and tried to catch the shooter... do we not have any guards on duty at night? As Vincent said, Remi didn't comment much the second half of the day. I'm guessing he was killed because he was unlikely to be watched. I don't think that says anything one way or another about Jean or Andrew. For a group of people that included several who were quite in favor of a lynch, we really didn't get very close to one. In the final vote tally: Quote Vote Count: Justin Reynaud - 2 (Vincent Denis, Aiden Leon) Fred Dumont - 1 (Peter Lyon) Alex Howe - 1 (Andrew Laurent) Jean Pelley - 1 (Trenton Monette) Andrew Laurent - 1 (Jean Pelley) Fabien Bellamy - 1 (Joshua Levitt) Robin Tremblay - 1 (Alex Howe) Aiden Leon - 3 (Justin Reynaud, Daniel Lucas, Fred Dumont) No vote - 5 (Remi Blaise, Michael Lavoie, Emmett Ware, Fabien Bellamy, Robin Temblay) Looking back at the discussion of folks who were eager to have a lynch, the only person who really stated any sort of opinion on it was Emmett, and Emmett was the one who said he didn't think we had the knowledge to make an informed decision. So at least his not voting is consistent with what he said about lynching. Fred asked who wanted a lynch or no-lynch. Emmett said he didn't think we could, implying a no-lynch position, but later claimed he wasn't against it. Vincent said he was "typically" for it (very neutral) Andrew said it was "vital" Aiden implied he was for a lynch, but didn't really come out and say it one way or another Justin said it was "critical" Joshua called out "more than one person already pushing for a no-lynch" (this wasn't actually happening), but was worried about anyone pushing for a no-lynch Trenton said "a vote is vital to determine where people stand", and "same goes for a lynch". Fred found himself "thinking we should have a lynch today" Andrew, Trenton, and Joshua all voted on their own. Justin started the vote for Aiden, which got the "most" votes at 3. That's not really saying much since we had twice that many people not even vote. Vincent was the second vote on Justin, following Jean who switched to Andrew. Fred jumped around a bit before settling on Aiden to try to get us moving closer to a lynch. Justin and Aiden were tied at the time, as Aiden had just voted for Justin and Justin and Daniel had just voted for Aiden. Looking at it now, that whole series of votes was interesting. Robin was leading everyone else with 2 votes after voting for the absent Michael. Aiden moved from Daniel to Justin. Daniel moved from Vincent to Aiden. Fred then moves from Robin to Aiden. It was all very late, so there wasn't any real hope of getting a lynch. I know I was on Fred a bit yesterday, and I admit to not having read all of the Daniel/Vincent argument in much detail, but it seems to me that Fred jumped in on someone else's argument and wasn't so much keeping up as trying to get anyone lynched or look consistent. Not much caring about the actual outcome so much as how he looked in the end.
Emmett Ware Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Vincent Denis said: Let me explain something important, though. Lucas PMed me last night and asked if I was ready to work with him. Ever PM the person you're most suspicious of and ask them to work together? To me, it's concerning. Prodding Daniel further about this concern, he claims that he PMed others to ask their opinion of me and he "got the feeling I'd be truly town" from those conversations. Regarding that, can anyone confirm having these conversations with him? I didn't receive anything from him and it isn't just concerning, it's flat out suspicious. There is no way he should trust anyone enough to be in private contact with them, and if he was, why would he ask them if he could trust you? That's multiple levels of trust that can't be earned this quickly. If this had been yesterday, I wouldn't have ended the day without a vote. If this can't be explained today, the same situation will not be repeated.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Have to say, Remi did not have too much contribution. Opinions even less, almost just confirmation and chit-chat. We should check his post anyways. Especially the last two, because if he is not dead by being a silent and neutral townie, the cause may lie there. Jean was quoted once, asked for clarification on his vote on Justin. Andrew was the other one for his mention about night actions. I'm not sure where to put these. Later he made no further inquiries about the answers he got. Eventually he made no votes, that is also interesting. Definitely we should look at all the votes as well at this point. Also Vincent is telling the truth with his first post. I did contact him at night. Everything he said is more or less an accurate interpretation (still in a fragmented and suggestive style). Since he was very much convinced that I'm truly Town, I thought he should really start to act so. What is not revealed by him, that he made clear, he has no intentions to do anything whatsoever to work this out, because suddenly he thinks I might be scum after making a contact and my intention is fishing. For his defense, he might be totally right, nothing would prove the opposite by itself. I just find it interesting that his belief of my alignment is always so sure but very conveniently erratic. He did not make any suggestions what he wants me to do, if I'm Town. He is just always passively being ready with his script. When I vote for him, I'm a dummy and a counterproductive town. When I privately message him about this, I'm totally a suspicious fishing scum. I'm always behind one step in his standpoint, because I should have just listened to him right at the beginning and never even dare to question anything. Also I asked him why is he so convinced of Aiden's good intentions. Naturally both of them were accused by me and that could push them into some emotional bondage, but clearly that is senseless. I asked him why did he not find it strange that Aiden was protecting him, also voting for me witout questions, without any specified reason, why I've became so unreasonable so fast. The answer was the same, he knows nothing but his points were 100% okay and Aiden just made an objective opinion by pointing out that my accusations are indeed ridiculous. For the record he forgot to mention this part of the private conversation as well. And this was almost the end of it. There is one thing what I've asked him, and this is the actual reason I've contacted him: I asked him, if he truly thinks I'm not being helpful why is he going along with all this fwooming. He answered he is just having fun, "why am I not ignoring just his first and list lines of it?". And this was the only reason of my PM actually. Not the seemingly logical townie suggestion of fishing. No Scum would start to fish on him in my position, and he totally knows this. I was just curious about his answer to this and the style he is actually using in PM. Because he made zero fwoomings there, I can assure you. This is an intentional show. His whole manner, all the fwoomings and all the emotional remarks. Again, everything I had yesterday, stands now too. There is 0% sense to jump on a defense on Vincent or jump on an offense on me without any questions and arguments taken. Also there is 0% sense to believe a guy like Aiden, just because he agrees with us and we are so sure about our fwoooming arguments' infallibility. I had a pretty exhaustive conclusion of D1 and N1 now. Since most of us surprisingly vanished by the end of D1, this should be the time for other's to voice their opinion. But only if you won't start with not reading all the D1 posts. Go and do that first, please. Vote: Aiden Leon
Emmett Ware Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Vincent Denis said: he claims that he PMed others to ask their opinion of me and he "got the feeling I'd be truly town" from those conversations. 12 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Also Vincent is telling the truth with his first post. I did contact him at night. Everything he said is more or less an accurate interpretation (still in a fragmented and suggestive style). Did you contact these 'others' or did they contact you? Either way, why would you trust them at all?
Vincent Denis Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 *Fwomma fwom—:hmpf: 8 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: The answer was the same, he knows nothing but his points were 100% okay and Aiden just made an objective opinion by pointing out that my accusations are indeed ridiculous. For the record he forgot to mention this part of the private conversation as well. In reality what I said was: 21 hours ago, Vincent Denis said: No shit. I said nothing clears Aiden. I even said there's a possibility he was trying to buddy up to me. But your behavior gives him an excuse if he's scum because you'd make a valid policy lynch. And if he's town then he's telling you the truth that he feels you're not helping. It would be risky for scum to come out and try to stop you from what you were doing. I find it more odd that Justin and Fred voted along with you. The most confounding thing about you is the way you were sure that I was scum at the end of the day and now you're talking to me like you trust me. It's like your scum buddies told you to back track for overdoing it. Make no mistake, my plan is to post immediately in day two that you approached me via PM and ask if I was ready to work together. Doesn't sound like "his points were 100% okay" to me. Now you think it's scummy to not play the tuba in PM? Good God, if I played the tuba in a PM, I'd be in desperate need of in-home care. I'm the tubist! I'm playing the tuba! I'm following along with this guideline from the host: 2 hours ago, Bob said: 12) I encourage roleplay with your characters! I have given some flavor text, but feel free to make them your own! Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? 16 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: And this was the only reason of my PM actually. Not the seemingly logical townie suggestion of fishing. My bullshit meter is off the charts with this. Biggest ping from you yet, Mr. Lucas. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Emmett Ware said: That's multiple levels of trust that can't be earned this quickly. If this had been yesterday, I wouldn't have ended the day without a vote. If this can't be explained today, the same situation will not be repeated. Why did you not vote? Have you followed all the posts? Just now, Emmett Ware said: Did you contact these 'others' or did they contact you? Either way, why would you trust them at all? No, I did not contact anybody else, but Vincent does not lie about this. I did tell him I've contacted others before him. Just now, Vincent Denis said: I'm the tubist! I'm playing the tuba! I'm following along with this guideline from the host: I don't believe you. It is cleary a tool for you to make yesterday an unreadable mess. But if I'm wrong I have to ask you now. Stop fwooming.
Robin Tremblay Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 I didn’t hear or learn anything last night.
Vincent Denis Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: No, I did not contact anybody else, but Vincent does not lie about this. I did tell him I've contacted others before him. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* OK. So you lied in answer to my question about why you suddenly trusted me enough to ask me to work with you? Town lie to people they think are scum, yes. But why would a townie lie about this? Most of the conversation didn't revolve around my tuba-playing as you claim your real intent with PMing me was. Most of it was me trying to figure out why you were asking the person you found the most suspicious to work with you. Your story now makes even less sense. Not only did you trust me the least, you said you were sure you were right on me and were positive I was working on the information that I knew who was who. Now, all of your actions are not adding up. At all. I don't care to spam up the thread with another marathon argument with you so I'll wait to see what others think of this new information. *Fwom fwom fwooooooooooom fwom fwom fwoooooooooom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwoooom fwooooom fwooooooooooooom Fwom Fwom!
Emmett Ware Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Why did you not vote? Have you followed all the posts? I didn't vote because I never felt strongly enough about anyone to do so. There were a few people I considered strongly, but the vote was too spread for there to be any chance of a lynch. A vote that can't result in a lynch is just posturing, in my opinion. I followed as much of the conversation as I could before you and Vincent took over the day. 19 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: No, I did not contact anybody else, but Vincent does not lie about this. I did tell him I've contacted others before him. So you were lying to justify contacting him. Or worse, to convince him that other people trusted you enough to hold conversations with you. Either way, this isn't particularly reassuring.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Vincent Denis said: I don't care to spam up the thread with another marathon argument with you so I'll wait to see what others think of this new information. It is a good intention from you. Let's just keep it that way, shall we? Also, please stop the fwooming. I ask you again. Noise does not help town. Just now, Emmett Ware said: So you were lying to justify contacting him. Or worse, to convince him that other people trusted you enough to hold conversations with you. Either way, this isn't particularly reassuring. Yes. I was lying to him saying that I've contacted others. But it is super interesting, so wait it out. I had a very good reason to: Vincent said himself in PM that he is going to tell everybody that I've contacted him, while I did not say anything revealable. I did not understand why would he say this. If I'm scum, I've could just killed him right after for this. A town would not warn someone this directly, especially someone he suspects as scum. Now I thought this is very interesting. Thinking about this I realized he is not even being afraid I might be a scum to kill him. I wanted to stay alive so this would be revealed. As it is now. Only that I did not want to PM around because I can't trust anyone. Also by this warning I've got the feeling he was trying to get an advantage of this contact and push me back into some claim. Clearly I've wouldn't have survived that claim if he is scum. Also if I end up dead he could've just twisted the discussion all around without me having any chance to reply. So I thought if I'm getting killed by asking the right questions in D1 and if he realizes his warning was actually a pretty big scum tell, I don't want him to think he can just kill me. So yes, I've hinted a little backdoor so he would not dare to kill me, being worried that others may have copies of our talk. Maybe had nothing to do with the actual truth. But I am alive. And since he quoted first, here it is: 21 hours ago, Vincent Denis said: The most confounding thing about you is the way you were sure that I was scum at the end of the day and now you're talking to me like you trust me. It's like your scum buddies told you to back track for overdoing it. Make no mistake, my plan is to post immediately in day two that you approached me via PM and ask if I was ready to work together. Would you say something like this to a Scum in PM? I think not.
Jean Pelley Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Vincent Denis said: Let me explain something important, though. Lucas PMed me last night and asked if I was ready to work with him. Ever PM the person you're most suspicious of and ask them to work together? To me, it's concerning. Denis, Denis, avec tes yeux si bleus, I feel so lonely! Nobody talked to me last night except for the giraffe. His name ç'est Harvey. For every Tweedledum and Tweedledee there is a Cheshire Cat who disappears from the fray, grinning all the while. And, по-моему, the biggest grin around here is Joshua's. I picked up on him yesterday: On 4/7/2020 at 11:33 AM, Jean Pelley said: Makes me wonder if there's another reason you're not voting for Joshua... So I want to re-emphasize the reasons Andrew manufactured not to vote for Joshua: On 4/5/2020 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Laurent said: I did a simple coin flip to choose between Michael and Joshua. On 4/6/2020 at 10:24 PM, Andrew Laurent said: 2. Someone is already voting for Joshua, the least-talkative member of this hunt other than Michael. Later on he comes and tells us he's confident Vincent & Daniel are town: On 4/8/2020 at 8:59 AM, Andrew Laurent said: Personally, I'd be ok with a lynch on Vincent or Daniel to reduce the yelling, but from experience, I'm 99% sure both are town. Interestingly, Tweedledee returns to opine that he agrees with Andrew. On 4/8/2020 at 9:24 AM, Justin Reynaud said: I think they are both town, just very foolish townies. Anyway. Makes me think Andrew is doing his very best to bring just a little (but not to much) attention to Joshua. On to today. 50 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: This is an intentional show. His whole manner, all the fwoomings and all the emotional remarks I mean, if you PMed me you wouldn't find me butchering the French language behind closed doors; I only get off when other people can watch. This concern is pretty much nothing. 51 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Go and do that first, please. I did. And Vincent found Andrew and Justin's votes suspicious well after he remarked that there wasn't much to go on. I agree with Vincent that you seem to have got your knickers in a twist, but your earnestness does appeal to me 34 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: Doesn't sound like "his points were 100% okay" to me. Quoting PMs is a party foul, dude. Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Only that I did not want to PM around because I can't trust anyone. You don't trust anyone so you won't PM anyone, but you pull together some post-hoc justification for contacting Vincent? Sounds like bullshit. Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Would you say something like this to a Scum in PM? I think not. I mean, yeah???? You threatened him not to kill you, and he dared you to kill him. You could easily both be town, or one of you could easily be a clever mindgame-playing scum. Aside from this Vincent-Daniel bullshit, I am extremely perturbed by the Andrew-Joshua dynamic (or, rather, the deliberate lack of dynamic). Vote: Joshua Levitt
Andrew Laurent Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Aiden Leon said: Holy shit what a way to go. Well played there. Rare to get to use emoji quite so accurately... 45 minutes ago, Emmett Ware said: Did you contact these 'others' or did they contact you? Either way, why would you trust them at all? Who said any trust has to be involved? In past searches for traitors, I've had multi-day conversations in private with people I did not trust. Just like I can talk to people publicly who I do not trust. Heck, I don't trust you and I'm talking to you right now, right? 37 minutes ago, Robin Tremblay said: I didn’t hear or learn anything last night. What is this? Are you claiming to have an ability that you didn't use? An ability that was unsuccessful? That no one PM'd you overnight? What?
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Jean Pelley said: I mean, yeah???? You threatened him not to kill you, and he dared you to kill him. You could easily both be town, or one of you could easily be a clever mindgame-playing scum. Aside from this Vincent-Daniel bullshit, I am extremely perturbed by the Andrew-Joshua dynamic (or, rather, the deliberate lack of dynamic). Vote: Joshua Levitt You are missing the point. He warned me first for no reason. Why would he dare me to kill him? There is simply no reason to do that as town. Also I've not threatened him, but hinted that I've talked with others and he truly might be town. My reason was to avoid getting killed. I've done it indirectly. A Town would've not make any direct warning, since a Town is practically alone.
Jean Pelley Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: That no one PM'd you overnight? I understood this from context clues, but it might be harder for someone with les pommes-de-terre for brains. @Daniel Lucas it's mutually assured destruction. Doesn't really matter who does it first. You both seemed to have played like strong townies and responded like strong scummos not take the bait. Or maybe neither of you has a kill action Cease twisting thine knickers.
Emmett Ware Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: Who said any trust has to be involved? In past searches for traitors, I've had multi-day conversations in private with people I did not trust. Just like I can talk to people publicly who I do not trust. Heck, I don't trust you and I'm talking to you right now, right? Was it after a day of arguing with them? Did you tell them you trusted them because other people suggested you could when that eventually was revealed to be a lie? I'll also add, if you or anyone else would have PM'd me last night, I simply wouldn't have replied unless I thought I could learn something to help prove your were scum. It doesn't sound like that was where their conversation was going, but without reading it directly, I can't be sure of that.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Jean Pelley said: @Daniel Lucas it's mutually assured destruction. Doesn't really matter who does it first. You both seemed to have played like strong townies and responded like strong scummos not take the bait. Or maybe neither of you has a kill action Cease twisting thine knickers. Why would it not matter who said it first. That is OBVIOUSLY not true Jean. He said it first and it was a DIRECT warning. I've made no direct warning, just hinted it later that I've talked with others, that's it so he would not dare to kill me. Totally matters who said that first. Why would his first direct warning be the same? A warning would've not stopped me for killing him if I'm scum. A town would not risk saying that to a suspected scum. You are either not thinking it through or you don't want to.
Andrew Laurent Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Jean Pelley said: I understood this from context clues, but it might be harder for someone with les pommes-de-terre for brains. You may be a first mate while I'm a simple soldier, but that doesn't mean I have potato brains. I have radishes for brains, thank you very much. 1 minute ago, Jean Pelley said: So I want to re-emphasize the reasons Andrew manufactured not to vote for Joshua: *snip* Anyway. Makes me think Andrew is doing his very best to bring just a little (but not to much) attention to Joshua. You ninja'd me with posting this while I was in the middle of posting, but I want to respond so you don't accuse me of ignoring what you said. I didn't vote for Joshua for exactly the reasons I said. I could have not given any reasons, much less pointed out that I was not voting for him twice, if we're some traitorous buddies like you think. I could have not started out the whole voting if I was trying to keep attention off certain people. But since you're so concerned, let me put it this way: Vote: Joshua Levitt because I'm a loyal soldier and I don't know if he is, so let him defend himself.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Emmett Ware said: I'll also add, if you or anyone else would have PM'd me last night, I simply wouldn't have replied unless I thought I could learn something to help prove your were scum. It doesn't sound like that was where their conversation was going, but without reading it directly, I can't be sure of that. And what do you think about I've just pointed out? Jeans clearly says it is a twisting, but I say otherwise. Vincent not warned me saying that he is telling it to others that night, he said he is going to reveal it next night. I've hinted him I've already talked with others thatn night. Exactly, I've said already because that's a proper defense if he is scum. Warning the other of tomorrow while he can be a scum that kills that night is truly a fake thing. I don't see why Jean would say it is the same unless he wants to sweep it away quickly now.
Jean Pelley Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Jeans clearly says it is a twisting, but I say otherwise. I want to point out that when I say you've got your knickers in a "twist", I mean not that you are twisting someone's words but rather that you are freaking out over nothing. Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Warning the other of tomorrow while he can be a scum that kills that night is truly a fake thing. Thing is, he thinks the same as you: that the other guy could be a scum. It's equivialent. Neither you nor he knows whom the other could be informing in PM, so getting rid of the perceived threat with a kill would look fishy. It's pushing the kings real close on the board to see who blinks first.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Jean Pelley said: I want to point out that when I say you've got your knickers in a "twist", I mean not that you are twisting someone's words but rather that you are freaking out over nothing. Dude. Please just give me your opinion with actual arguments about my logic. Not unspecific phrases. Again: I pm Vincent, hinting that we might start to work together finally, Vincent says he thought me town, but since I pm-ed him he thinks I'm a scum spy (This is valid up to this point). Vincent warns me he is going to tell next day that I've pm-d him. I think this is BS, since if I'm scum I just kill him for this. No sense to maky such warnings. I hint him that I'm already talk with others, so he may start to worry I've posted copies. Thus I'm kind of defended of a kill if he is scum. It is not the same as warning about a possible tomorrow action. Which part is freaking over nothing? A Town would not simple warn a scum about his tomorrow actions. Period. Either he is out of his mind as a town, or totally not afraid to make such warnings as a scum. Because only a scum would've known I'm not going to kill him.
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