Harry Potter 2020 - Rumors & Discussion

[sammy_zammy]

30 minutes ago, autolycus said:

Thanks! That's what I was afraid of! Longest space I could put this right now is ~44" long, and even that requires taking apart some other sets. I guess I do have one spot that's ~60" long, but it's loaded with other things that don't fit elsewhere very well... hmm.. I'll just have to go with a split display, I'm afraid!

EDIT: Now time to take suggestions on how best to stagger or layer these sets on 1 or 2 shelves that are wide enough for 3 of the big sets...

Well there's plenty of sections of wall in both Clock Tower and Whomping Willow. These can probably be removed, or made to go round the side/the back.

You could also rotate some of the technic bricks so that a big part goes sideways but still connects.

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, GalacticHippo said:

I've lost the list of all the known and rumoured CMF, but I feel like now I'm definitely hoping Tonks is in the CMF since they skipped out on pink or purple hair in the Burrow.

There is no concrete list of rumored figures but these are confirmed:

- Harry Potter with Advanced Potion Making and a wand

- Proffesor Sprout with a Mandrake

- Neville with the Monster Book of Monsters

- Dumbledore with Fawkes

- Kingsley Shacklebolt with a broom

- Luna Lovegood in a lion costume

- Griphook with a key

- Moaning Myrtle 

- Bellatrix with prisoner sign

[sammy_zammy]

12 minutes ago, Metanoios91 said:

It's another weird angle. The bed is 4x6 large, meaning it's bigger than the dorm room beds

Maybe it's these weird angles that are making us think the set's not very deep - I wonder if it's actually deeper than it appears.

[8fifty]

1 minute ago, GalacticHippo said:

I've lost the list of all the known and rumoured CMF, but I feel like now I'm definitely hoping Tonks is in the CMF since they skipped out on pink or purple hair in the Burrow.

Is there already a hairpiece which is available in pink/purple and that would fit her?

[GalacticHippo]

 

 

 

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Just now, Guyon2002 said:

There is no concrete list of rumored figures but these are confirmed:

*list*

Thanks — it'll be nice to see Sprout with the greenhouse. Hopefully they do what they did with Bellatrix and give us a good CMF figure of Tonks to accompany or make up for the slightly * inferior * minifigure in the set.

Just now, 8fifty said:

Is there already a hairpiece which is available in pink/purple and that would fit her?

I don't think so. Some people floated different pieces, like Sabine's hair from Star Wars, but none of them are available in pink or purple. Which makes me hopeful for the CMF...!

[UKFan922]

There's that hair from Teen Titans Go Dimensions. I think they use that on renders of Tonks in the Lego books.

[Black Numenorean]

All the set are not incredible, except the burrow. The design  is disappointing. Just the figurines are in the good standard of 2018.

Stickers and méta-pièces are everywhere. 

[8fifty]

Just now, UKFan922 said:

There's that hair from Teen Titans Go Dimensions. I think they use that on renders of Tonks in the Lego books.

Yeah, that could fit, maybe I try it out!

[sammy_zammy]

1 hour ago, DarkLordSauron said:

The latest iteration of HP started out so unbelievably amazing and there are still some real gems in this wave, but I can't help but feel like the theme is starting to lose its way a bit. When the first wave with sets like The Great Hall and Qudditch Match came out, they were improving leaps and bounds over anything HP had seen before and the sets were irresistible. But as the theme's gone on, everything just feels less compelling. Privot Drive is amazing--the cupboard under the stairs, letters in the fireplace, and window feature are great details that really emulate where this line started. Sadly I'm not too interested in its subject matter. The rest of the sets just feel kind of average.

I mean, which Lego executive looked at the Half Blood Prince and said, you know what scene in that movie would really sell? Slughorn's dinner party. Seriously?? Why did we not get Dumbledore and Snape in this set? The previous Snape was great but there definitely is room to make a new iteration! How about Dumbledore? We got him in the Yule Ball (over Pomfrey and Moaning Myrtle, I might add), but his inclusion in a set literally titled Astronomy Tower isn't warranted? Really? I don't want a waiter Neville, especially when we still don't have a Neville in regular Hogwarts robes. And how many dresses do we need for Hermione? This HP theme is more mature than previous years; I know Lego shies away from death scenes, but an Astronomy Tower set should be based around the battle there. Dumbledore, Snape, two Death Eaters, maybe Crabbe and Goyle would've been much preferred to this lineup. Even Professor Sprout instead of being in the CMF wave could've been included, since we get the greenhouse here. It's not like they left out a Snape repeat for characters we don't already have. This is the fourth Luna, second Neville, and third Hermione this wave alone.

I know some people have been knocking the Ravenclaw common room; for me, it's one of the redeeming rooms in this set, but either way, none of the Hogwarts sets have matched The Great Hall yet. Dumbledore's office last wave was disappointing and crammed into a tiny tower. Why not save it for this set? No one would miss Slughorn's office and few would miss the Ravenclaw dorm if they were to be replaced by it. We go from a $130 Hogwarts to a $350 (and counting) Hogwarts and somehow the quality of one of the most iconic places in the castle has arguably gone down. It would be great to have that in this set. Or any other combination of improvements--the interior just feels very underwhelming. And get rid of the white door frames.

I just can't shake the thought of how awesome it would've been to get a Dumbledore with some sort of visible curse on his hand, his office with the pensive, locket, ring, the vanishing cabinet (there's an empty hallway right there), Death Eaters (Borgin), etc. That would be a killer set.

I really couldn't disagree more. Most of your complaints seem to be about the interiors. All the interiors aren't great in Hogwarts sets. The Mirror of Erised room is literally a 1x4 plate for goodness sake! The Great Hall is obviously a good interior - but that's like the main part of the set. And your complaint about them theming it around Slughorn's dinner party - surely most people aren't buying the Clock Tower for the Yule Ball, no, they're buying it for the impressive awesome clock tower! Same here - people will buy this for an amazing Astronomy Tower. They had to choose a theme because they like to choose some theme, and they went with this.

I understand your argument they should've themed it around Dumbledore's death, arguably the most iconic thing that happened in the Astronomy Tower - yes this would be awesome (regardless of Lego not liking death scenes), but I don't understand what you're proprosing this scene would contain, apart from different minifigures? And different minifigures you could easily set up yourself using existing characters! Meanwhile Slughorn's dinner party has food, a table, decorations... All your suggestions are (mostly existing) minifigures and accessories, apart from the vanishing cabinet.

If you want minifigures that's what CMFs and Bricklink's for. If you want an amazing tower, then you buy this.

1 hour ago, DarkLordSauron said:

I have the old burrow and this one is a HUGE improvement on the interior. (Not sure it's worth the pricetag or how it got the highest piece count, but I'll let that go.) But once again, I can't help but feel disappointed. Bellatrix is a clear step back. Almost exactly the same figure, but without printing on the dress, and IMO that does make a fair amount of difference for the quality of this particular figure. Same goes for Molly, who probably shouldn't have a dress piece to begin with. I also prefer the old Ginny and Greyback figures. I just feel like that's a huge mistake for Lego to make, since my impression of these waves is such a stark improvement over prior versions, especially in terms of minifigures. These figures, at worst, should be roughly equivalent to the old ones, certainly not a clear downgrade.

Again, I can't help but think back to the first wave. The new Filch, the new Hagrid, Quirrel, Nearly Headless Nick, even the new Lupin and dementors, not to mention the CMF, or wave two's Maxime, Dumbledore, and honestly so many others. They found a way to improve on figures that didn't even need improving. Between the two Hogwarts sets this wave, there are only two exclusive characters total: Slughorn and Lavander (and some already have Slughorn). There were four in TGH alone. Where did that kind of attention to minifigures go?

I just don't look at these sets and say, wow, Lego has really outdone themselves this time and these are must-buys for me. They met expectations.

Again, you're saying you're disappointed - but all you've mentioned being bad are the minifigures?

Just now, Black Numenorean said:

All the set are not incredible, except the burrow. The design  is disappointing. Just the figurines are in the good standard of 2018.

Stickers and méta-pièces are everywhere. 

"The design is disappointing." What does that mean?

And anyone not expecting large wall pieces and archways coming into this from 2018/19 isn't thinking logically.

 

to both of you:

sorry, I didn’t mean to go on such a rant. Of course you’re entitled to your opinions, I just really can’t see where you’re coming from. I came across in a completely “you are wrong I am right” way and I apologise though.

Edited April 28, 2020 by sammy_zammy
Apology

[lego_guyon02]

It didn't really bother me with the slicked back hair but for some reason the haircolor really bothers me on this figure of Draco, it's way too bright imo

6 minutes ago, Black Numenorean said:

All the set are not incredible, except the burrow. The design  is disappointing. Just the figurines are in the good standard of 2018.

Stickers and méta-pièces are everywhere. 

I couldn't disagree more, this is probably the best wave so far in terms of design.

[HalfBloodPrince]

When are these sets getting released? Are they June or July Early or just getting released on August?

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, HalfBloodPrince said:

When are these sets getting released? Are they June or July Early or just getting released on August?

I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's the normal sets in July for the US and August for the Burrow, for everyone else everything is June 1st

[sammy_zammy]

I just realised, we were all bashing AshnFlash yesterday, and turns out we were both right - August in the US and June elsewhere

[sebastian666]

Just now, sammy_zammy said:

I just realised, we were all bashing AshnFlash yesterday, and turns out we were both right - August in the US and June elsewhere

I thought it was July in the US...

[Black Numenorean]

Just now, Guyon2002 said:

It didn't really bother me with the slicked back hair but for some reason the haircolor really bothers me on this figure of Draco, it's way too bright imo

I couldn't disagree more, this is probably the best wave so far in terms of design.

The burrow is in the spirit of the wave of 2018. The rest is less. Private drive is too square. The room of requirement looks like nothing: a poor wall (but for 19,99, ok).

Personaly, i am not fan of the building of Hogwarts too. For hedwige, i have the picture of un great MOc in my mind, so for this, the standard of my vision find the lego set bad.

It is just my appreciation. If you like it, it is not a problem for me.

[UKFan922]

Is the window thing in the door of the viaduct in AT new?

Edited April 28, 2020 by UKFan922

[MaxHeadroom]

1 hour ago, DarkLordSauron said:

The latest iteration of HP started out so unbelievably amazing and there are still some real gems in this wave, but I can't help but feel like the theme is starting to lose its way a bit. When the first wave with sets like The Great Hall and Qudditch Match came out, they were improving leaps and bounds over anything HP had seen before and the sets were irresistible. But as the theme's gone on, everything just feels less compelling. Privot Drive is amazing--the cupboard under the stairs, letters in the fireplace, and window feature are great details that really emulate where this line started. Sadly I'm not too interested in its subject matter. The rest of the sets just feel kind of average.

I mean, which Lego executive looked at the Half Blood Prince and said, you know what scene in that movie would really sell? Slughorn's dinner party. Seriously?? Why did we not get Dumbledore and Snape in this set? The previous Snape was great but there definitely is room to make a new iteration! How about Dumbledore? We got him in the Yule Ball (over Pomfrey and Moaning Myrtle, I might add), but his inclusion in a set literally titled Astronomy Tower isn't warranted? Really? I don't want a waiter Neville, especially when we still don't have a Neville in regular Hogwarts robes. And how many dresses do we need for Hermione? This HP theme is more mature than previous years; I know Lego shies away from death scenes, but an Astronomy Tower set should be based around the battle there. Dumbledore, Snape, two Death Eaters, maybe Crabbe and Goyle would've been much preferred to this lineup. Even Professor Sprout instead of being in the CMF wave could've been included, since we get the greenhouse here. It's not like they left out a Snape repeat for characters we don't already have. This is the fourth Luna, second Neville, and third Hermione this wave alone.

I know some people have been knocking the Ravenclaw common room; for me, it's one of the redeeming rooms in this set, but either way, none of the Hogwarts sets have matched The Great Hall yet. Dumbledore's office last wave was disappointing and crammed into a tiny tower. Why not save it for this set? No one would miss Slughorn's office and few would miss the Ravenclaw dorm if they were to be replaced by it. We go from a $130 Hogwarts to a $350 (and counting) Hogwarts and somehow the quality of one of the most iconic places in the castle has arguably gone down. It would be great to have that in this set. Or any other combination of improvements--the interior just feels very underwhelming. And get rid of the white door frames.

I just can't shake the thought of how awesome it would've been to get a Dumbledore with some sort of visible curse on his hand, his office with the pensive, locket, ring, the vanishing cabinet (there's an empty hallway right there), Death Eaters (Borgin), etc. That would be a killer set.

I have the old burrow and this one is a HUGE improvement on the interior. (Not sure it's worth the pricetag or how it got the highest piece count, but I'll let that go.) But once again, I can't help but feel disappointed. Bellatrix is a clear step back. Almost exactly the same figure, but without printing on the dress, and IMO that does make a fair amount of difference for the quality of this particular figure. Same goes for Molly, who probably shouldn't have a dress piece to begin with. I also prefer the old Ginny and Greyback figures. I just feel like that's a huge mistake for Lego to make, since my impression of these waves is such a stark improvement over prior versions, especially in terms of minifigures. These figures, at worst, should be roughly equivalent to the old ones, certainly not a clear downgrade.

Again, I can't help but think back to the first wave. The new Filch, the new Hagrid, Quirrel, Nearly Headless Nick, even the new Lupin and dementors, not to mention the CMF, or wave two's Maxime, Dumbledore, and honestly so many others. They found a way to improve on figures that didn't even need improving. Between the two Hogwarts sets this wave, there are only two exclusive characters total: Slughorn and Lavander (and some already have Slughorn). There were four in TGH alone. Where did that kind of attention to minifigures go?

I just don't look at these sets and say, wow, Lego has really outdone themselves this time and these are must-buys for me. They met expectations.

Obviously these sets are going to be less exciting since your standards are already quite high after the first two years. 
 

I think you're forgetting that the first two waves have issues too. I wouldn't call the great hall set as a whole trash (though the hall itself has flaws I won't get into) but the tower attached to it is. The tower build itself has issues like the missing turrets, shortness, only being half the tower (which makes it look bad at most angles), and the top level is the same size as the rest of the tower which was a detail that even the primitive 2001 tower managed to capture, but the major issues with that set come from the interior of the tower. Every single room in that tower is trash. The random spiral staircase hall could work if it led to dumbledore's office but it doesn't, it leads to a potions room. The potions room is inferior to the WW version which was released the same year and makes the GH one completely pointless. I have no idea what the third room is meant to be, Dumbledore's storage room? Completely useless. Then there is the top "floor" which "houses" the mirror. The mirror is too big for it and combined with the whole "half tower" thing can be seen at most angles from the outside. There also isn't actually any room for a figure to stand while the mirror is there unless you want them smashing their face into it, again pointless. 4/5 Great Hall rooms are useless, I would say only 2/7 rooms in the AT are completely useless (entrance hall and Potions class #3) the rest are new and actually appear in the story (Astronomy telescope, astronomy classroom,  ravenclaw common room, Slughorn's office,Greenhouse). And I can at least understand the inclusion of the potions/party room here so I would argue against that room being completely pointless. 

Other 2018 sets had issues too like the trio in the HE set not having mid-legs and the Harry and Ron figures being reused, the CMF being filled with robed versions of characters we could've just gotten in sets, the Hogwarts D2C being micro scale (which many people didn't like), and the existence of a bricktober pack which had a VERY messy distribution due to TRU being shut down. 
 

The 2019 sets also had issues like Fleur's dress being unprinted in the Yule ball set, Madam Maxime's hair in the Carriage set, the blandness of the Triwizard tent, the Hungarian Horntail in general, Victor Krum's faceprint, the existence of the Carriage set, and Wormtail's hair. 

EVERY year is going to have issues with the some of the sets and some of the figures. You just raised your expectations too high. 
 

I honestly think these are some of the best sets we've gotten. The ROR not only has a superior build to the previous $20 set but it has 3 exclusive minifigures as opposed to the 1 exclusive figure from the Expecto Patronum set.

The Forbidden Forest set is also better than the Triwizard tournament set. The brick built creature included is as good as it could've been unlike the brick built dragon which could've easily been improved with a new head mould, thinner legs, longer neck, ect. The tree side build is also much more of a build and far more interesting than the tent which was a few panels with some stickers inside. The figures are also equal to those included with the dragon set. Not only are there more figures but an all new centaur mould and the new Umbridge figure which is one of the best in the entire rebooted line.

Privet Drive probably isn't as good as the whomping willow but that doesn't mean it's bad. I've already explained my thoughts on the AT and compared it to the previous set of that price so I won't repeat myself. The Burrow while it has lackluster figures has an amazing build which is likely what took up most of the budget for the set. It has 196 more pieces than the Great hall and yet it's the same price. 
 

It's shaping up to be a great year for this theme and we still haven't even seen everything we're getting this year. There's still Diagon Alley, the minifigure series, the mystery set (UCS Dobby's Sock), 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

4 minutes ago, HalfBloodPrince said:

When are these sets getting released? Are they June or July Early or just getting released on August?

I think it goes like that - June 1st for Europe (all the sets), July 1st for all sets except The Burrow in Lego stores and August 1st for all sets in stores and Burrow in Lego stores.

[HalfBloodPrince]

Does anyone else think the Burrow will release early as well?

[UKFan922]

Wow I'm impressed. The Greenhouses do actually sit alongside the Long Gallery (also named the Viaduct entrance). They did their homework!

[Black Numenorean]

Just now, HalfBloodPrince said:

Does anyone else think the Burrow will release early as well?

I have the information in Europe that there will be pre order at the end of April in the website of Lego for a First June.

[(Insert Name Here)]

Just now, UKFan922 said:

Wow I'm impressed. The Greenhouses do actually sit alongside the Long Gallery (also named the Viaduct entrance). They did their homework!

It's tricky for Lego to adapt the castle sometimes, as the castle does change from film to film. So it is impressive when they make it accurate. The obvious changes were between CoS and PoA. The whomping willow and Hagrid's Hut are in completely different places to where they were.

The other maor change is the viaduct. Originally it goes from one part of the castle to another, but in Deathly Hallows it now goes from the courtyard away from the castle.

Also in Deathly Hallows, a lot of action happens on some stairs that seem to have replaced the moving staircases from the other films.

[Brick Guru]

I've heard a lot about the sets releasing in August in the US. Is there any additional information about the release dates in Canada or is it the same as the rest of the world?

Edited April 28, 2020 by Brick Guru

[UKFan922]

Just now, (Insert Name Here) said:

It's tricky for Lego to adapt the castle sometimes, as the castle does change from film to film. So it is impressive when they make it accurate. The obvious changes were between CoS and PoA. The whomping willow and Hagrid's Hut are in completely different places to where they were.

The other maor change is the viaduct. Originally it goes from one part of the castle to another, but in Deathly Hallows it now goes from the courtyard away from the castle.

Also in Deathly Hallows, a lot of action happens on some stairs that seem to have replaced the moving staircases from the other films.

Yeah it's ridiculous how much they changed it. Makes my OCD go nuts. 

[RealGeronimo11]

Just now, UKFan922 said:

Yeah it's ridiculous how much they changed it. Makes my OCD go nuts. 

It's a magical castle, maybe it changes from time to time