Jarreth2 Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 A much clearer image of the otter patronus has appeared .. looks great
BacktoBricks Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Here's my thoughts: 75978 is a D2C and includes the Gringotts cart scene from PS and / or the dragon scene from DH. 75978 is not the D2C, but a Ministry of Magic set and includes the fountain scene with Harry and Voldermort's fight. 75978 could be a Chamber Of Secrets set as that is a very 'iconic' underground scene.
Clone OPatra Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 The hint says an iconic scene in "the underground", which is what the London subway is called, so it's got to be the scene where Arthur and Harry take the tube to get to the Ministry of Magic. Minifigs: Arthur, Harry, London Muggle. Build: half of an Underground carriage. You heard it here first folks. I've got to say, once again some of the decisions in this line baffle me. I wouldn't pretend to know how it really works behind the scenes, but new animal moulds for Patronuses at the expense of a fully fledged Bellatrix with unique face and printed skirt, for example? I don't understand the choice. The Patronuses are cool, don't get me wrong, but as far as the films go they appear in one brief scene and aren't super playable anyway. On the one hand we get some of this awesome new stuff, and on the other hand iconic characters go half baked.
thenudeorganist Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 11:24 AM, Clone OPatra said: The hint says an iconic scene in "the underground", which is what the London subway is called Expand I doubt that Kingnono is a native speaker; therefore, him saying "in the underground" might just be a grammatical mistake rather than a reference to the London subway. I would be surprised if we got a set based on that scene mainly because of how random it would be. I reckon he is hinting at Gringott's but I'm hoping for the Atrium. Then again, I might be completely wrong and we are getting a set based on the telephone booth ride.
sebastian666 Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 7:31 AM, spiderfan2000 said: The new hint on Instagram: "An iconic scene in the underground will be part of 75978". Presumably that must mean the Gringotts vaults will be included. Expand Hate to break it to all the naysayers, but the Ministry of Magic is also “underground.” Harry’s first visit to the Ministry follows a ride on the London Underground, and Ministry employees literally flush themselves down a toilet to get to work everyday. This is yet another clue pointing to 75978 being the Duel in the Ministry Atrium set centered around a Fountain of Magical Brethren build.
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 People are still eager to jump to conclusions, I see Him using the term „DA“ in one post and „75978“ in another doesn‘t mean they aren‘t one and the same thing, just saying. And @thenudeorganist is right, _kingnono_ is most likely not a native speaker
8fifty Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 8:20 AM, Guyon2002 said: He basically means Ideas sets aren't allowed to make new molds, only existing ones. For example the pig reappearing in Barracuda Bay must be in some other 2020 set. And a third Disney CMF is basically confirmed for 2021 because they need new molds for Winnie the Pooh Expand What about the sonic screwdriver from the Doctor Who set, did this one exist already before the set came out? I also wonder how they will handle the Sesame Street set. Although minifigs without specific molds would work out farely well I would much prefer new and special ones. But this is going to be too much OT for now.
deskp Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:42 PM, 8fifty said: What about the sonic screwdriver from the Doctor Who set, did this one exist already before the set came out? I also wonder how they will handle the Sesame Street set. Although minifigs without specific molds would work out farely well I would much prefer new and special ones. But this is going to be too much OT for now. Expand That was made for lego dimensions.
8fifty Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:47 PM, deskp said: That was made for lego dimensions. Expand Aaah yes, you're right
sammy_zammy Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:29 PM, sebastian666 said: Hate to break it to all the naysayers, but the Ministry of Magic is also “underground.” Harry’s first visit to the Ministry follows a ride on the London Underground, and Ministry employees literally flush themselves down a toilet to get to work everyday. This is yet another clue pointing to 75978 being the Duel in the Ministry Atrium set centered around a Fountain of Magical Brethren build. Expand You're still missing the point. No-one us saying that the MoM isn't possible. It certainly is possible. And I would love that to be a set. Just there was far more evidence of that set from reliable sources saying it wasn't a MoM set, compared to a random unverified new account randomly saying "Ministry of Magic set".
Terrasher Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 I'd be surprised if DA had an underground section, since this would mean that all buildings should be elevated if they were to be on the same street level. My HP knowledge is limited, but isn't Gringotts the only DA building with underground scenes in the movies? Here are my two theories, if it's the DA D2C that has the underground scene: 1. The whole set is one big block where the buildings cannot be separated. In this case, having an underground scene would make sense, since the whole underground section would be connected. However, this ignores the fact that kingnono mentioned "pins" in the set before (unless it's just for easy transportation? Like Old Trafford?) 2. The buildings are all individual sections of the set that are not connected to each other (like the previous DA) but all have underground scenes so the shops and the bank are all at the same street level. This would be a strange way to integrate an underground scene, since, if the set is made of multiple buildings that are not connected to each other, then the underground scene would be scattered across the whole, separated, set. If DA would include Gringotts' minecart vaults, then there'd be a section of rail underneath each shop. This does follow the theory that DA includes pins, presumably to connect each section and have a full modular-like street with a complete underground scene. I think these would be two strange ways to tackle DA, which makes me think this underground scene belongs to another set altogether.
Icebrick Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 1:52 PM, Terrasher said: I'd be surprised if DA had an underground section, since this would mean that all buildings should be elevated if they were to be on the same street level. My HP knowledge is limited, but isn't Gringotts the only DA building with underground scenes in the movies? Here are my two theories, if it's the DA D2C that has the underground scene: Expand Yeah, Gringotts is the only building with underground scenes. The only two from it are in the Sorcerers Stone, when Harry learns about the money left to him, and the one in DH with the Dragon. It wouldn't make sense though for it to be either.
Clone OPatra Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:21 PM, thenudeorganist said: I doubt that Kingnono is a native speaker; therefore, him saying "in the underground" might just be a grammatical mistake rather than a reference to the London subway. I would be surprised if we got a set based on that scene mainly because of how random it would be. Expand I could have used our sarcasm emoji, but otherwise I don't know how I could have been more obviously sarcastic after adding my fake guess at minifigures and build. He's obviously not talking about the London Underground. Just poking fun at how people jump to conclusions surrounding these hints, that's all.
sammy_zammy Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) On 4/12/2020 at 1:52 PM, Terrasher said: I'd be surprised if DA had an underground section, since this would mean that all buildings should be elevated if they were to be on the same street level. My HP knowledge is limited, but isn't Gringotts the only DA building with underground scenes in the movies? Here are my two theories, if it's the DA D2C that has the underground scene: 1. The whole set is one big block where the buildings cannot be separated. In this case, having an underground scene would make sense, since the whole underground section would be connected. However, this ignores the fact that kingnono mentioned "pins" in the set before (unless it's just for easy transportation? Like Old Trafford?) 2. The buildings are all individual sections of the set that are not connected to each other (like the previous DA) but all have underground scenes so the shops and the bank are all at the same street level. This would be a strange way to integrate an underground scene, since, if the set is made of multiple buildings that are not connected to each other, then the underground scene would be scattered across the whole, separated, set. If DA would include Gringotts' minecart vaults, then there'd be a section of rail underneath each shop. This does follow the theory that DA includes pins, presumably to connect each section and have a full modular-like street with a complete underground scene. I think these would be two strange ways to tackle DA, which makes me think this underground scene belongs to another set altogether. Expand I think you're overcomplicating it. They're certainly not gonna all be one structure, otherwise it would be impossible to transport. Even Hogwarts split into two and that is large in all dimensions, whereas this will just be long. And I highly doubt they'd elevate all the shops. Your suggestion of having a section of track underneath each shop would be possible perhaps, although I don't think that's likely. We know Lego doesn't care about continuity, as evidenced by the randomly placed interors on the Hogwarts castle sets. It's much more likely they'd have Gringotts, a door, and then an underground mine cart section. Simples. Edited April 12, 2020 by sammy_zammy
lego_guyon02 Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Kingnono said ´an iconic scene in the underground will be part of 75978´ so that doesn´t necessarily mean it´s something that only happens underground. It wouldn´t surprise me if this is nono´s way of telling us the Ukranian Ironbelly is included, which would make a ton of sense given it´s primarily seen underground and it´s prominently displayed on top of Gringotts in Universals Diagon Alley.
Icebrick Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) On 4/12/2020 at 2:09 PM, sammy_zammy said: And I highly doubt they'd elevate all the shops. Having a section of track underneath each would make some sense perhaps but it's much more likely they'd have Gringotts, a door, and then an underground mine cart section. Simples. Expand That would take away from the rest of Diagon Alley though. On 4/12/2020 at 2:11 PM, Guyon2002 said: Kingnono said ´an iconic scene in the underground will be part of 75978´ so that doesn´t necessarily mean it´s something that only happens underground. It wouldn´t surprise me if this is nono´s way of telling us the Ukranian Ironbelly is included, which would make a ton of sense given it´s primarily seen underground and it´s prominently displayed on top of Gringotts in Universals Diagon Alley. Expand I guess it makes sense but the dragon would take up a lot of the pieces in the set. Edited April 12, 2020 by Icebrick misspelled word
sammy_zammy Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) On 4/12/2020 at 2:14 PM, Icebrick said: That wod take away from the rest of Diagon Alley though. Expand What would? Edited April 12, 2020 by sammy_zammy
Balrogofmorgoth Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:11 PM, Guyon2002 said: Kingnono said ´an iconic scene in the underground will be part of 75978´ so that doesn´t necessarily mean it´s something that only happens underground. It wouldn´t surprise me if this is nono´s way of telling us the Ukranian Ironbelly is included, which would make a ton of sense given it´s primarily seen underground and it´s prominently displayed on top of Gringotts in Universals Diagon Alley. Expand That’s probably one of the simplest interpretations I’ve heard. Makes sense. Might even have Harry’s vault and the “you know what in vault you know which”. That would be iconic as well, but more of an Easter egg than anything. Dragon makes more sense as far as iconic scenes
sammy_zammy Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) On 4/12/2020 at 2:16 PM, Balrogofmorgoth said: That’s probably one of the simplest interpretations I’ve heard. Makes sense. Might even have Harry’s vault and the “you know what in vault you know which”. That would be iconic as well, but more of an Easter egg than anything. Dragon makes more sense as far as iconic scenes Expand Yeah that definitely makes sense. I think people are expecting sprawling mine cart tracks underneath Gringotts, when in reality it's more likely to be a slight cave, dragon and some valuts just behind Gringotts on the same level. If there's any track at all (which would be awesome) I don't expect it'd be large and wouldn't go underneath. After all, the track would have to at least start on the same level as Gringotts, and there's no scene where they go down some steps to the cart or the cart goes down into a cave, so there's no reason it has to be underneath really. Edited April 12, 2020 by sammy_zammy
Icebrick Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:16 PM, sammy_zammy said: What would? Expand Adding anything that would represent the under ground of Gringotts would take away from the rest of DA
sammy_zammy Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:20 PM, Icebrick said: Adding anything that would represent the under ground of Gringotts would take away from the rest of DA Expand That's my point, there's no need for it to be underground. It can just be on the same level - which certainly wouldn't take anything away from the rest.
Icebrick Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:18 PM, sammy_zammy said: Yeah that definitely makes sense. I think people are expecting sprawling mine cart tracks underneath Gringotts, when in reality it's more likely to be a slight cave, dragon and some valuts just behind Gringotts on the same level. Expand I mean something like that would take at least 600 pieces. Would much rather see those pieces go to the different shops On 4/12/2020 at 2:22 PM, sammy_zammy said: That's my point, there's no need for it to be underground. It can just be on the same level - which certainly wouldn't take anything away from the rest. Expand My point is that it still takes away from whatever else could be possibly be coming in the set.
thenudeorganist Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:05 PM, Clone OPatra said: I could have used our sarcasm emoji, but otherwise I don't know how I could have been more obviously sarcastic after adding my fake guess at minifigures and build. He's obviously not talking about the London Underground. Just poking fun at how people jump to conclusions surrounding these hints, that's all. Expand Lol :D Now that you say it, it was rather obvious. I guess I'm just expecting all kinds of random predictions from people...
sammy_zammy Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:23 PM, Icebrick said: I mean something like that would take at least 600 pieces. Would much rather see those pieces go to the different shops Expand I see what you mean now. Yeah, personally I think the underground would be better as a separate set. But this is just going off the latest hint. Even if it is a part of the set, I'm not sure it'd take up as many pieces as you think - they don't have to build massive structures for it. It could literally be the dragon like the Hungarian Horntail (which only has 143 pieces), some track, a couple of open-side/top vaults and the cart. They could even cut the dragon and make it only based off Philospher's Stone.
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