MAB Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Black-Brick said: Yeah I recently reactivated my old eurobricks account just for that! Also I feel like I should clarify that only really the main Lego subreddits (r/lego and probably r/legostarwars ) are bad. There are a lot of smaller theme specific Lego subreddits that are way better and more MOC-friendly which Is pretty much only place on reddit that I post to now. I can understand things being ignored on general LEGO forums. Whereas where things are sorted by subject, then there is much less of a problem. Go to historical, and everything there is historical and there wouldn't be posts of people holding a UCS MF. Of course, there might be posts of people with the latest historical set (if ever they do one! maybe once the Blacksmith is released) but even then they do not dominate. If a MOC is posted in the right place, and that place has users, it won't be ignored unless it is somewhat niche. Posting a niche MOC in a general LEGO discussion area is likely to lead to little interest though. That is just as much on the poster as anyone else. Quote
Lego David Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, The Stud said: Here’s one people won’t like to hear, but in my opinion, AFOLs are way too blinded by their nostalgia for classic Lego themes, like Classic Space, Castle, Pirates, etc. I can certainly understand wanting to have your favor if e Lego themes, but I’m so sick of hearing people complain all of the time that theme x, y, or z is still being made instead of more sets from those classic themes. I 100% agree. A lot of AFOLs seem to be wearing nostalgia googles that they just can't take off... and when LEGO produces a new theme that is similar, and potentially even better than what they are used to, they just choose to ignore it. I saw this happen several times with themes such as Mars Mission, Atlanits, Pharaoh's Quest, etc. Quote
icm Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 Here's my unpopular opinion (maybe I've said it before on this thread, I don't remember): I like and welcome remakes in all themes, especially Star Wars. Every time I see a multicolored makeshift X-wing or other frequent set subject on Lego Reddit (which is a lot, that seems to be the place to go for humble spare parts builds), I'm reminded of the makeshift models I made as a kid and how much I wanted the actual sets, not just my inadequate substitutes. Quote
Stuartn Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) On 1/9/2021 at 8:07 AM, icm said: Here's my unpopular opinion (maybe I've said it before on this thread, I don't remember): I like and welcome remakes in all themes, especially Star Wars. Every time I see a multicolored makeshift X-wing or other frequent set subject on Lego Reddit (which is a lot, that seems to be the place to go for humble spare parts builds), I'm reminded of the makeshift models I made as a kid and how much I wanted the actual sets, not just my inadequate substitutes. I agree. We have to remember also that the majority of buyers are kids, who might not have even been alive when the last version of a set came out. If we didn't have remakes, we probably would have run out sets a couple of years ago. Not all AFOLs have the chance to get sets at a certain point in time either, and normally remakes are strong improvements over the previous set. I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but I really dislike the exploration subthemes in City. Not so much dislike the theme, but dislike them being in the City theme. The sets are actually quite good, but please place them under their own theme so we have more actual town-related sets. Though they are actually a good source for parts and inspiration for now non-existent traditional themes, such as space, arctic and jungle adventure-related themes. Edited January 10, 2021 by Stuartn Quote
MAB Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 9:07 PM, icm said: Here's my unpopular opinion (maybe I've said it before on this thread, I don't remember): I like and welcome remakes in all themes, especially Star Wars. Every time I see a multicolored makeshift X-wing or other frequent set subject on Lego Reddit (which is a lot, that seems to be the place to go for humble spare parts builds), I'm reminded of the makeshift models I made as a kid and how much I wanted the actual sets, not just my inadequate substitutes. I don't mind rehashes for licensed themes. There will be key vehicles, characters or places that people will want to buy no matter when they get into lego. However, it is different for unlicensed themes. There is no reason to bring back say, galaxy squad or alien conquest, when they could do a new space theme in its place if they want a space theme. Similar therebis no reason to redo an old modular when they can do a new one instead. Quote
Lego David Posted January 10, 2021 Author Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Stuartn said: I agree. We have to remember also that the majority of buyers are kids, who might not have even been alive when the last version of a set came out. If we didn't have remakes, we probably would have run out sets a couple of years ago. But that argument doesn't really make sense when some of those remakes are literally one or two years apart from each other. Edited January 10, 2021 by Lego David Quote
Vilhelm22 Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 Star Wars gets far too much focus, when there ought to be more on original stuff. Ninjago is generally only good for parts. A licensed set should not hold the position of largest set. Quote
KotZ Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:43 AM, MuscoviteSandwich said: Yeah I recently reactivated my old eurobricks account just for that! Also I feel like I should clarify that only really the main Lego subreddits (r/lego and probably r/legostarwars ) are bad. There are a lot of smaller theme specific Lego subreddits that are way better and more MOC-friendly which Is pretty much only place on reddit that I post to now. The Bionicle subreddits are pretty good, both in memes and in MOCs. 38 minutes ago, Vilhelm22 said: A licensed set should not hold the position of largest set. Doesn't Colosseum currently hold that title? Quote
Stuartn Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Lego David said: But that argument doesn't really make sense when some of those remakes are literally one or two years apart from each other. Generally most SW sets are four or five years apart, with the exception of the X-wing, which has had five since 2015 (technically only two were the same), with TIE Fighter sets also quite close (three since 2015 and a UCS version). If you don't count similar vehicles as the same (such as the Solo or ST millennium falcon) and discount UCS/MBS sets, I cannot think of many other sets that are that close together. Quote
Vilhelm22 Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 13 hours ago, KotZ said: Doesn't Colosseum currently hold that title? Yes, but in the past both millennium falcons have, and the rumoured Death Star ii coming out this year would take the top spot again Quote
MAB Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Vilhelm22 said: Yes, but in the past both millennium falcons have, and the rumoured Death Star ii coming out this year would take the top spot again Why does it matter which set has the largest parts count? 13 hours ago, Stuartn said: Generally most SW sets are four or five years apart, with the exception of the X-wing, which has had five since 2015 (technically only two were the same), with TIE Fighter sets also quite close (three since 2015 and a UCS version). If you don't count similar vehicles as the same (such as the Solo or ST millennium falcon) and discount UCS/MBS sets, I cannot think of many other sets that are that close together. Yeah, the OT X-wing has had two similar versions in 2018 and 2021, plus a much smaller trench run version in between. I'm fine with that, it is one of the most popular ships of the franchise and should be on the shelves at all times. If someone owns the similar 2018 set (or the 2012 set), they don't have to buy the 2021 set. Quote
AViewToALego Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 Lego Headz are atrocious and a waste of time and space. I don't like the inclusion of orange and lime greenish bricks in the LEGO supplementay sets. Some people like the new colors, I don't. I prefer the natural classic colors i.e. 1715. Bite-marks and faded/yellowed torsos and heads add to the "battleworn"'ishness of my Pirate army! Most think they are gross, but I think it's part of the charm in collecting different parts in various quality from different sources and then slowly completing the minifigs. Just clean the pieces and they will be fine. But off course... every now and then I like myself a shiny new Armada breastplate too! Stickers are great because if I don't like them I don't have to apply them and can sell them instead. And my most stubborn one: Fire Breathing Fortress is a masterpiece. PERIOD. Quote
Pinnacle Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 I think that most LEGO-fans dislike the old Belville-sets, apparently because of the fairy-tell appearance of the figurines. And because they were made for girls only. But I like them, for the (for me) right scale and the flexibility of the limbs. One can put them in every pose you want. If these figurines were more gender-neutral, I think they had had a chance to become more popular… Quote
Lego David Posted January 11, 2021 Author Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Pinnacle said: I think that most LEGO-fans dislike the old Belville-sets, apparently because of the fairy-tell appearance of the figurines. And because they were made for girls only. But I like them, for the (for me) right scale and the flexibility of the limbs. One can put them in every pose you want. If these figurines were more gender-neutral, I think they had had a chance to become more popular… I couldn't agree more. The Belville figures were great in terms of posability. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 -CMFs are a scam. I don't like the idea of playing russian roulette with my money when I'm buying a product. -Other than the minifigures and some parts,Ninjago is overrated and it needs to die already.Lego is cleary running out of ideas,since the most recent waves are based on older themes.There are also those Legacy sets which are the equivalent of the endless remake sets from SW. -I hate how much corporate Lego has become over the last few years.We can't have a theme (original or licensed) that does not have some sort of media tie-in.There has to be a movie,a TV show or a gimmick otherwise there won't be a new theme.That's why there is an over abundance of licensed themes and very few original themes. -If you're an AFOL who's ashamed of buying Lego products then stop.And also stop imposing your way of thinking on others,just because you are ashamed doesn't mean I am. Quote
Lego David Posted January 12, 2021 Author Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, LOTR34 said: I hate how much corporate Lego has become over the last few years.We can't have a theme (original or licensed) that does not have some sort of media tie-in.There has to be a movie,a TV show or a gimmick otherwise there won't be a new theme.That's why there is an over abundance of licensed themes and very few original themes. Very good point. LEGO has become very corporate lately, in the same veins as someone like Disney. Most of their current product lines feel like they were made less out of genuine love and more like they are corporately manufactured. Sure, a lot of the designers put a lot of love and care in the sets they create, but that can't really be said about the corporation who ordered the creation of those products. It doesn't help it either that much like Disney, TLG has now started accquiring other companies, such as Bricklink (believe me, it won't be the last thing they will accquire). Quote
MAB Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 10 hours ago, LOTR34 said: -Other than the minifigures and some parts,Ninjago is overrated and it needs to die already.Lego is cleary running out of ideas,since the most recent waves are based on older themes.There are also those Legacy sets which are the equivalent of the endless remake sets from SW. Have you not seen the new Gardens set? I don't think they have run out of ideas. As to the smaller sets, they are giving people what they want. Quote
Peppermint_M Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 AFOLs are not the target consumer for the majority of LEGO products. They need to realise that. Being a "true fan" of LEGO these days seems to require unrelenting negativity towards the product you claim to be a fan of. Nobody knows what they really want. When they get it, something will always be wrong. An aggrevatingly large percentage of the community is about collecting and not creating. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, MAB said: Have you not seen the new Gardens set? I don't think they have run out of ideas. As to the smaller sets, they are giving people what they want. I'd say the Gardens set is an exception.Look at the recent normal waves:last summer wave was obviously inspired by the Castle Fantasy era,the upcoming march wave is inspired by the Islanders sub theme from Pirates and if the rumors are true about the summer wave then it probably draws inspiration from the Atlantis theme. If Ninjago is to continue then it should have original ideas not borrow from older themes. 9 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said: AFOLs are not the target consumer for the majority of LEGO products. They need to realise that. An aggrevatingly large percentage of the community is about collecting and not creating. I'm rather certain that the majority of AFOLs know that and this isn't an unpopular opinion,if I had a penny everytime someone said this I'd swimming in a room filled with cash like Scrooge McDuck. And what's wrong with collecting?I don't want to put words into your mouth but I heard the sentiment that in order to be a """true""" Lego fan you have to be a MOCer.Which I find to be an absolutely BS statement,what makes you a fan is your love for Lego not what you do with them once you bought them. Edited January 12, 2021 by LOTR34 Quote
MAB Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, LOTR34 said: I'd say the Gardens set is an exception.Look at the recent normal waves:last summer wave was obviously inspired by the Castle Fantasy era,the upcoming march wave is inspired by the Islanders sub theme from Pirates and if the rumors are true about the summer wave then it probably draws inspiration from the Atlantis theme. If Ninjago is to continue then it should have original ideas not borrow from older themes. What does it matter? Fantasy era and Atlantis have not been on the shelves in ages. So there is no internal competition between themes. Plus if people find elements of Atlantis in a different theme, surely this is a good thing, as it means people wanting the return of that theme at least have something they can buy to partially satisfy them. Atlantis was essentially a space theme but set underwater anyway, so drew inspiration on prior sets when it came out. If they know a particular style of set is popular no matter what the theme, then I think its great that they bring those ideas into long running themes. 34 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said: An aggrevatingly large percentage of the community is about collecting and not creating. If collecting old variants of 2x4s or Star Wars figures or Modulex or monochrome minifigs or CMFs or every colour of a particular part or 200 of the same minifigure makes someone happy does it matter? Shouldn't they be allowed to show off the collection that they have created just as much as someone that has created a build out of common bricks? Plus LEGO knows their product is collectable. They often market it as collectable, emphasising the collectability over rebuilding it into something completely different. Quote
Trekkie99 Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 13 hours ago, LOTR34 said: -CMFs are a scam. I don't like the idea of playing russian roulette with my money when I'm buying a product. If they weren't hidden, then it would allow some to sell less than others. And there's all kinds of problems with that. 13 hours ago, LOTR34 said: -Other than the minifigures and some parts,Ninjago is overrated and it needs to die already.Lego is cleary running out of ideas,since the most recent waves are based on older themes.There are also those Legacy sets which are the equivalent of the endless remake sets from SW. Lego more likely than not knows what they doing to acheive their goals. 13 hours ago, LOTR34 said: -I hate how much corporate Lego has become over the last few years.We can't have a theme (original or licensed) that does not have some sort of media tie-in.There has to be a movie,a TV show or a gimmick otherwise there won't be a new theme.That's why there is an over abundance of licensed themes and very few original themes. I have a hard time thinking of a something licensed that lego could make a theme off of that wouldn't be media based. Lego probably has no need to do original themes when thay could probably easily acquire and make a licenced theme with the same idea that will sell better and not look like a nock off of said license because it is that license. And big bang themes have tv shows and/or other gimmicks to accompany them because that's what sells probably. 30 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said: AFOLs are not the target consumer for the majority of LEGO products. They need to realise that. Every complaint from AFOLs about Lego can probably be explained with this. 36 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said: Being a "true fan" of LEGO these days seems to require unrelenting negativity towards the product you claim to be a fan of. And it's the "True fans" who set those standards. 36 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said: An aggrevatingly large percentage of the community is about collecting and not creating. I could only hope it's another case of the loud minority. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, Trekkie99 said: Every complaint from AFOLs about Lego can probably be explained with this. I could only hope it's another case of the loud minority. Yes we should all just shut up and praise our lord and savior Lego Here's an unpopular opinion maybe just maybe AFOLs are critical of this company because they love their products. Again I don't see the issue here and I find it rather ironic how you mock others for acting like they're true fans when you scorn others for their habits. 45 minutes ago, MAB said: What does it matter? Fantasy era and Atlantis have not been on the shelves in ages. So there is no internal competition between themes. Plus if people find elements of Atlantis in a different theme, surely this is a good thing, as it means people wanting the return of that theme at least have something they can buy to partially satisfy them. Atlantis was essentially a space theme but set underwater anyway, so drew inspiration on prior sets when it came out. If they know a particular style of set is popular no matter what the theme, then I think its great that they bring those ideas into long running themes. If collecting old variants of 2x4s or Star Wars figures or Modulex or monochrome minifigs or CMFs or every colour of a particular part or 200 of the same minifigure makes someone happy does it matter? Shouldn't they be allowed to show off the collection that they have created just as much as someone that has created a build out of common bricks? Plus LEGO knows their product is collectable. They often market it as collectable, emphasising the collectability over rebuilding it into something completely different. My issue is that I'd rather have an Antlantis remake or even better a spiritual succesor rather than take the idea,shove it on an long running theme and call it a day. I agree it doesn't matter,if a Lego fan is happy collecting then that's great if a another Lego fan is happy creating MOCs then that's also great.We shouldn't gatekeep fans who have different habits than us. Quote
Trekkie99 Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, LOTR34 said: Yes we should all just shut up and praise our lord and savior Lego That's not what I said at all. The complaint was about the products Lego makes, and the answer is that Lego's priority is making money, and they do that by making products for kids. Not adults. Another trait of complainers is they don't like the answers. 38 minutes ago, LOTR34 said: Again I don't see the issue here Because complaining is pointless, unwarrented, and unhealthy for the complainer, everyone else involved, and the image of the community. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Trekkie99 said: Because complaining is pointless, unwarrented, and unhealthy for the complainer, everyone else involved, and the image of the community. I was talking about Peppermints comment about collecting and not creating. I agree complaining yields no results but there is a difference between complainers and critics. Edited January 12, 2021 by LOTR34 Quote
koalayummies Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 What this Eurobricks member witnessed on a young Lego builder's birthday. Behavior like that should be unpopular. Hit up the Lego store then list it on Bricklink. Quote
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