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Just a friendly reminder hre before it starts to get nasty (don't know why I have that feeling): be cool and don't disrespect others ;-)

Well I really think its really not of good taste and serves no interest at all !! (contrary to the concentration camp MOC sponsorised by Lego which educted o the atrocities of WWII - and I'm not saying that to create a debate ;-) )

OK plus having serial killers MFs is just wrong IMO !! I am very liberal on those issues but I think its a little too much.

On the other hand I wouldn't have had the same problem with a prison MOC having a well done execution chamber - see the difference ? Sure its slight but its real ;-)

Its the difference between promotion and showing what exists ;-)

*yoda*

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Interesting. Would it be inappropriate to compliment the build? 8-|

~Peace

Nope not at all ;-)

Promoting that as s et with box art and Charlie and his swastika on his forehead is bad taste and that is what is bothering me, NOT the MOC of an electric chair ;-)

*yoda*

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contrary to the concentration camp MOC sponsorised by Lego which educted o the atrocities of WWII

Accidentally sponsored. The 'artist' as it were, misled them, as I'm sure you know, but I want anyone else reading to understand that LEGO was displeased by that whole situation.

Geez, you'd think I wanted a job at LEGO legal. *wacko*

On the other hand I wouldn't have had the same problem with a prison MOC having a well done execution chamber - see the difference ? Sure its slight but its real ;-)

Or if someone built the Munster's house and included Grandpa sitting in his favourite chair playing checkers. That wouldn't be so bad in the appropriate setting. That's the word we're looking for ... appropriate. *y*

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I don't think its nearly as bad as everyone is making it out to be. The swastika is a little out there, but it is true that ol' Charlie has one on his forehead.

Is this really any worse than any number of beheading scenes we see all the time as Castle MOCs?

Steve

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Hehehe, did anyone notice that in the MF pics, there is a dotted line going from the large fig's head to the building instruction fig's neck? 8-

Posted
Is this really any worse than any number of beheading scenes we see all the time as Castle MOCs?

Steve

It's all in the context.

Scenes of violence in Castle MOCs are usually intended as fantasy. This electric chair MOC is perhaps intended as a political statement (I'm guessing). Creating a horrific and REAL instrument of death using a child's toy makes for a very disturbing juxtaposition.

I make no claims to knowing what the builder's intended message is, but my personal interpretation is that he's speaking out against the unquestioning acceptance many Americans have regarding capital punishment. Perhaps he's saying that Americans have become so familiar and so comfortable with the death penalty that we're now making toys out of it.

Whether or not you agree with that message is a whole 'nother can of worms ....

Posted

Using unusual materials to create controversial context is an ordinary modus operandi of modern art.

What art is and what it tries to say is a very complex discussion and a very subjective one too....

Posted (edited)

Well I think its quite good, but the almost childish inclusion of "Build your own electric chair for serial killers kids!" and of course characters bring it down. There are however some great mocs based on horrible events that shouldn't really be frown upon. One such incident was Yoda's example, another was the controversial 9/11 attacks in lego. These things are MEANT to shock us, just as the real event does.

Batbrick Away! >:-)

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Posted
Just a friendly reminder hre before it starts to get nasty (don't know why I have that feeling): be cool and don't disrespect others ;-)

Well I really think its really not of good taste and serves no interest at all !! (contrary to the concentration camp MOC sponsorised by Lego which educted o the atrocities of WWII - and I'm not saying that to create a debate ;-) )

OK plus having serial killers MFs is just wrong IMO !! I am very liberal on those issues but I think its a little too much.

On the other hand I wouldn't have had the same problem with a prison MOC having a well done execution chamber - see the difference ? Sure its slight but its real ;-)

Its the difference between promotion and showing what exists ;-)

*yoda*

Totally agree. I mean, it's one thing to make a historical MOC like the Black Plague one yoda posted, but this "shocking" MOC seems to have only two possible purposes:

1. As a big joke just for laughing at (which is not nice at all; serial killers and execution is nothing to laugh about).

2. As a political statement. I don't really have a problem with it, but if this is why he did this than he's still taking the actual political viewpoint way too far; just because many people believe in the death penalty doesn't mean that we all are desensitized to it. It's not like we in the USA and Europe are killing people for blasting another person's viewpoint (unlike in other countries: just in the Middle East, a man was sentenced to death for "insulting Islam," when he was just raising a good question).

This to me is kinda in the same category as those Space Nazis and Bonktron MOCs a while back, which were trying to make jokes out of serious issues. |-/

Posted

It seems to just be mostly satirical - Especially when he pokes fun at bionicle and says prisononicle. Seems to be just a sick joke, and left it to us to think of it whatever we want - The creator was probably expecting people to throw tantrums and how aweful this is :-$ That's what always happens, and it can lead to greater arguments over political matters, censorship, and more *wacko*

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