KikoTube Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 Hello Guys. I started to build a Trabant 601 Pictures: Details of the Car: Front Wheel Drive Independent Suspension (only in front) Pendular Suspension in the back V2 Ottomotor (built in transverse) 4 Speed Gearbox AND it Looks awesome What i have till now: So the Chassis is pretty much finished. I´m still waiting for my servo that i ordererd. It should arrive tomorrow The car has a 4 Speed gearbox powered by 1l Motor. The fakemotor runs all the time even when the car is standing still. The Suspension is the same as in the real car. Some Pictures: (Sorry for the bad Quality) Some tips where i should build in the Bat-Box? Tell me what you think Quote
Didumos69 Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) I love it already! Although I think the chassis is a bit flat in front of the seats. Would be nice if you could incorporate some lengthwise beams that serve as a kind mid-console adding extra robustness. But that would not be realistic and perhaps the body will add enough stiffness. The suspension looks really neat! Btw, I like the prefix [scale]. Edited October 2, 2016 by Didumos69 Quote
KikoTube Posted October 2, 2016 Author Posted October 2, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 3:14 PM, Didumos69 said: I love it already! Although I think the chassis is a bit flat in front of the seats. Would be nice if you could incorporate some lengthwise beams that serve as a kind mid-console adding extra robustness. But that would not be realistic and perhaps the body will add enough stiffness. The suspension looks really neat! Btw, I like the prefix [scale]. Expand Thanks! As you said the only reason why the Chassis is that flat is the look of it. But till now i dont have any Problems with stiffness. Quote
LEGO Train 12 Volts Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 Amazing building technique! Great Moc ...I'm waiting for your next step! Quote
BusterHaus Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 Is there a reason why you are not putting independent suspension in the rear, or trailing arms like the real car? You seem to have the room and non-angled tires would look a lot better. By the way, this is the perfect car to reproduce in Lego. The original was plastic and what better material to use than Lego for its scaled model. Quote
grum64 Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) It makes a nice change to see something as humble as a Trabant instead of the usual supercars. Can't help thinking that this MOC will be made of better quality materials and have a better 'engine' than the real Trabbie ever did Edited October 3, 2016 by grum64 Quote
agrof Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) As an ex-owner (actually my father still has one in pieces), I follow with great interest this topic. We had fun times with ours, and despite the marvelous 26 PS, it was pretty agile. I must notice some "issues", if You make a scale model, there are some displacement. The black big "box" on the back top is the fuel tank, the tiny dusty gray covered part in the front left is the engine with permanent air ventillation cooling. Fan is on the left side of the engine. It is really that tiny. The tube on it, is the air filter, and the very huge curved tube on the right is the heating "system", it drives the hot air from the engine area to the cabin. The straight one below is for "cool air", air flow comes directly from grill. I understand, that the gearbox in LEGO Version will not fit in original place (below the heat-tube), but would be nice to see if the shifter could be placed beside the steering wheel - as in reality. That would be a key-feature - see second picture, the shifter is leaning downwards. Go Trabi, Go! Edited October 3, 2016 by agrof added content Quote
AkiyamaWataru Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Another point for hints goes for correctnes. Most 601 Trabants came with leaf-springs. On front and rear. As BusterHaus said: The trabant has independent suspension on all 4 sides. I just dont know what kind they used :) Quote
KikoTube Posted October 3, 2016 Author Posted October 3, 2016 Thanks for all the comments. On 10/2/2016 at 8:30 PM, BusterHaus said: Is there a reason why you are not putting independent suspension in the rear, or trailing arms like the real car? You seem to have the room and non-angled tires would look a lot better. By the way, this is the perfect car to reproduce in Lego. The original was plastic and what better material to use than Lego for its scaled model. Expand On 10/3/2016 at 10:08 AM, AkiyamaWataru said: Another point for hints goes for correctnes. Most 601 Trabants came with leaf-springs. On front and rear. As BusterHaus said: The trabant has independent suspension on all 4 sides. I just dont know what kind they used :) Expand Well the only reason why i didn´t used independent susp. at the back is because i read on Wikipedia that it has pendular suspension at the back.... On 10/3/2016 at 8:36 AM, agrof said: As an ex-owner (actually my father still has one in pieces), I follow with great interest this topic. We had fun times with ours, and despite the marvelous 26 PS, it was pretty agile. I must notice some "issues", if You make a scale model, there are some displacement. The black big "box" on the back top is the fuel tank, the tiny dusty gray covered part in the front left is the engine with permanent air ventillation cooling. Fan is on the left side of the engine. It is really that tiny. The tube on it, is the air filter, and the very huge curved tube on the right is the heating "system", it drives the hot air from the engine area to the cabin. The straight one below is for "cool air", air flow comes directly from grill. I understand, that the gearbox in LEGO Version will not fit in original place (below the heat-tube), but would be nice to see if the shifter could be placed beside the steering wheel - as in reality. That would be a key-feature - see second picture, the shifter is leaning downwards. Go Trabi, Go! Expand Thanks for the enlightenment It will be challenge but i will work at the shifter On 10/2/2016 at 9:07 PM, grum64 said: It makes a nice change to see something as humble as a Trabant instead of the usual supercars. Can't help thinking that this MOC will be made of better quality materials and have a better 'engine' than the real Trabbie ever did Expand Haha Thanks Quote
Victor Imaginator Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Nice start. I like old cars and surely will follow this topic. As i understood in real car leaf springs used as upper arms. Hardly can be reproduced with lego, but nothing is impossible. Double wishbone at front is a good approximation as i think. I don't sure about rear suspension - there's something even more weird) Quote
KikoTube Posted October 3, 2016 Author Posted October 3, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 8:36 AM, agrof said: As an ex-owner (actually my father still has one in pieces), I follow with great interest this topic. We had fun times with ours, and despite the marvelous 26 PS, it was pretty agile. I must notice some "issues", if You make a scale model, there are some displacement. The black big "box" on the back top is the fuel tank, the tiny dusty gray covered part in the front left is the engine with permanent air ventillation cooling. Fan is on the left side of the engine. It is really that tiny. The tube on it, is the air filter, and the very huge curved tube on the right is the heating "system", it drives the hot air from the engine area to the cabin. The straight one below is for "cool air", air flow comes directly from grill. I understand, that the gearbox in LEGO Version will not fit in original place (below the heat-tube), but would be nice to see if the shifter could be placed beside the steering wheel - as in reality. That would be a key-feature - see second picture, the shifter is leaning downwards. Go Trabi, Go! Expand Hey. Im trying to build the shifter. Could u give me more information about the shifter? I couldnt find anything on the internet how the shifter works precisely. Quote
KikoTube Posted October 3, 2016 Author Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) So i reworked the engine compartment. I think it looks better now. What is your Opinion? Edited October 3, 2016 by KikoTube Quote
agrof Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) It works like this: -push and down = Reverse -middle position down = 1st -middle position up = 2st -pull and down = 3rd -pull and up = 4th If You achieve 2 of these, You are already a winner for me! Looks better, even with battery, great! Edited October 3, 2016 by agrof Quote
BusterHaus Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 According to this the rear suspension is independent trailing arms. The limited pictures on Google seem to confirm this. Quote
KikoTube Posted October 3, 2016 Author Posted October 3, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 3:16 PM, BusterHaus said: According to this the rear suspension is independent trailing arms. The limited pictures on Google seem to confirm this. Expand Thank you very much. Ill rebuild the back axle and try to put the battery box between the tires. So the latest Update. I could build the shifter but it can only control the first and 2nd gear (sadly) i didnt find any other solution. On 10/3/2016 at 2:14 PM, agrof said: It works like this: -push and down = Reverse -middle position down = 1st -middle position up = 2st -pull and down = 3rd -pull and up = 4th If You achieve 2 of these, You are already a winner for me! Looks better, even with battery, great! Thanks for your help! :D Expand Quote
AkiyamaWataru Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 One particular thing I don't like is the position of your tank. The tank is the highest thing inside the engine bay. That comes from the feed for the carburator used in the 601. If i recon correctly it's a gravity feed to the swimmer-chamber. Quote
KikoTube Posted October 4, 2016 Author Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) I reworked the back suspension. It has trailing arms now. Edited October 4, 2016 by KikoTube grammar Quote
Alex Ilea Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Such a cool car :) Better than ferarris are today Quote
J_C Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 On 10/4/2016 at 3:09 PM, IA creations said: Such a cool car :) Better than ferarris are today Expand In Eastern Germany waiting time to get one was longer than waiting time for Ferrari nowadays. Quote
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