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Wait, does anyone know how the pizza man got in here? We don't let just anyone in... he must have had help!

Vote: Kinjobby O’Laughlin played by Junior Shark

Thinking to herself:

Any first day vote is a random shot in the dark, and this is what this vote mostly is. However, I have some reasoning.

First, he was part of one of our first bandwagons. There is obviously little evidence to work off of as mentioned previously so I won't hold his vote against him. However, I find the rapid bandwagon and attempt to possibly cover it (with people leaving soon after) a bit fishy.

Second, I found myself skimming his posts because of the fantastic role play making it hard for this "Yankee" to understand. That got me thinking that if he was scum, it would be a perfect cover if everyone also skimmed like me. This is because everyone would know him as the "funny/drunk pizza guy" but not remember any damning evidence against him, thus making it easier to skate by in future votes.

Third, if he does turn out Scum, my suspicion turns towards Lawson and the other band wagoners. If he is unfortunately innocent, I loose a little suspicion towards Lawson.

Finally, I see a couple of outcomes with this vote. Members could potentially bandwagon (if so I hope it is for logic and not just because it is easy) and we lynch the Pizza Man (who I do hope is Hydra). The other option is if members could continue to split votes and no one gets a super majority needed for a lynch, in which case I am not 100% sure what happens. The outcomes would be either the member with the most votes still gets lynched (who I would think would likely be Lawson due to his handy cap being hard to over come - and who as I mentioned I have some suspicions) or no one gets lynched at all in which case we don't risk lynching a possible SHIELD member and can analyze the night actions with what we have today to give us a little more "evidence"

So my one question is if a member still gets lynched if they don't get the super majority but still have the majority of the vote. I will have to find out from some of the leadership!

Hmm, will have to see how this plays out

Posted

Arooooooooo! It's been quite the Day One!

​Vote: Eugene Lawson (Forresto)

Him editing his post when it clearly says no to in the rules is odd. He is also a computer wiz, He could be hacking S.H.I.E.L.D..

Vote: Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4)

This and plus his quick unvote afterwards and pledge to not vote for someone until he's absolutely sure he's found a scum makes me highly suspicious. It could be seen like I'm picking on the new guy, but that unvote makes me think that someone behind the scenes told him to unvote and try to brush it off.

As always, if something else comes up, I'd be willing to change my vote. Now, if you'll excuse me, I must check the lunar calendar.

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Vote Tally

4 votes for Eugene Lawson (Forresto): (Penalty x4)

2 votes for Jasper Heinz (PirateDave84): (Junior Shark, Tariq j)

3 votes for Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4): (Dragonfire, Darkdragon, Bob)

1 vote for Alyssa Turner (CallMePie): (mostlytechnic)

1 vote for Kinjobby O'Laughlin (Junior Shark): (Comrade Commander)

Nonvoting (9): (Forresto, JackJonespaw, jluck, Umbra-Manis, fhomess, Khscarymovie4, CallMePie, Lady K, PirateDave84)

With 16 players remaining, a majority of 9 is required to lynch. Approximately 23 1/2 hours remain in the day. Please remember voting is mandatory. Failure to vote today will result in a vote penalty of half the required majority for Day 2.

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Posted

I have to say I don't feel too good about any of the lunch candidates yet. I blame Jafar for an uninspiring menu.

As for the lynch candidates, Eugene's editing mistake is easily made by any player. It should most definitely not be used to suggest that he's less likely to be HYDRA because scum wouldn't make such a mistake. Scum can and do. At this point I'm reasonably content with his responses, which don't yet strike me as suspicious.

Jasper seems to be... Jasper. I don't have much read on him and he's got some votes so I will follow along for now. Todd's vote seemed like an effort to get an easy lynch, which is exactly what he was accusing Jasper of.

For now, I will vote Daniel Bartell (Mostlytechnic). For his aggressive behavior so far. I feel like he's trying to look townie (SHIELDy?) by casting votes casually around as poking votes. The vote for Alyssa is completely meaningless and seems like just a way to look busy, and which he will later unvote when a better option comes up later in the day or Alyssa stops by to say anything at all.

Posted

As for suspicious persons:

David Leffel, James Cunnigham, Jeffery Brown, and Alyssa Turner Have been quiet so far. Might be attempting to slip under the radar.

Steven Schram Seems like rookie mistakes, but could be a cover-up.

My quietness is due to timezone issues. On weekdays, I'm only able to post every 24 hours, and usually all my posts amalgamate into one large post. I'll be more active at the weekends :wink:

Steven, your unvote has made me doubly suspicious of you...

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For now, I will vote Daniel Bartell (Mostlytechnic). For his aggressive behavior so far. I feel like he's trying to look townie (SHIELDy?) by casting votes casually around as poking votes. The vote for Alyssa is completely meaningless and seems like just a way to look busy, and which he will later unvote when a better option comes up later in the day or Alyssa stops by to say anything at all.

Hey - I openly said that the vote for Alyssa is a poke and yes I certainly will move it before the end of the day unless others join me. Would you rather I was like half the people here and just sit back quietly, wait for a consensus to start building, and then quickly join the bandwagon? That doesn't seem like a very SHIELD way of handling things. I'd much rather be aggressive and hunt the Hydra! It "looks townie" because it IS and I AM. Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick.

Posted

What? Why? HYDRA just trying to be the first to vote so you can look like you aren't hiding and afraid to vote?

This is suspicious, jumping on someone for a mistake about a mistake :wacko: What about his first vote thrown out over nothing at all, that was overlooked? Paying attention would be much more beneficial to us, but not paying attention doesn't really strike me as HYDRA.

Well, no, I cast the first vote to get things moving. I'm not afraid to vote because I'm the towniest of town.

My vote was justified ... by low post count ... which is a totally legitimate reason to lynch someone ... right? :blush:

I'm also going to cast my vote here: Vote: Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4)

1) his vote for Eugene and subsequent unvote was ill-placed (as was mine :blush:) and poorly justified.

2) his intention to wait and see strikes me very scummy; why wait? you can always unvote if you're not comfortable with your vote. Don't let others do the work for you; speculate (wildly if needs be, it's day one) talk, ask questions.

Posted

I knew my unvote would look bad. I honestly have no idea who Hydra could be. The only thing that is sorta of suspicious, is some people bandwagon. (I am guilty of these also.)

Posted

"I have decided to vote at the very last moment. I want to make sure I'm 99% whoever I vote for is hydra."

Good luck on that for this first day, friend. The only people who are 99% certain about anything are those who are HYDRA. And that I am 99% sure I am SHIELD cook.

I know that this will fall into the familiar "repetition of others'" category, but something about Mr. Schram's attitude does not sit well with me, as if I under-cooked a steak, which of course would never happen. But occasionally, and I attempt a metaphor here, sometimes people themselves are under-cooked, if you understand me.

Although it is true that Mr. Schram is a bit new to this SHIELD against HYDRA game, and it seems as though he is floundering around vivaciously, and that is just not something that I would enjoy to place among my ranks. Not to mention, he could very well be a HYDRA agent, either quite in under his head, or attempting to pass as a floundering town, either way you look at it, it is quite the suspicious act.

I shall Vote: Mr. Schram (Khscarymovie4). I am also quite intrigued to see who he votes for with his 99% confidence.

If anyone would desire some food, I am idly sitting by, awaiting your command.

Posted

Well since I can always unvote, might as well forget that post about waiting a being 99% sure. Vote: Jafar Masrani (JackJonespaw). It strikes me odd that he voted for me now when I have a bandwagon.

Posted

Yeah, have to say my mustache is pinging at the bandwagon building on Mr. Schram. I haven't been getting Hydra vibes off him, just new guy vibes. And we were all that once. But I don't know where his allegiance lies, I just know that the voting on him looks suspiciously like people (including almost certainly a Hydra or 3) picking an easy target.

Posted

Well since I can always unvote, might as well forget that post about waiting a being 99% sure. Vote: Jafar Masrani (JackJonespaw). It strikes me odd that he voted for me now when I have a bandwagon.

An unsubstantiated OMGUS vote does not really serve you well right now.

4 votes is a fair amount but I'm not sure if we are at the bandwagon stage yet.

Tell us why we should not vote for you; make me 99% sure you're on the level.

Posted

Loooking at reecent activity, me hackles have been raised at the actions oof Mr. Schram. He loooks to be quite th' wishy-washy laddie, seearching oot every opportoonity t' divehrt attention away from hisself (as mister Heinz has so illoostriously pointed oot). He be playing th' ol' "Th' Indian cook voted against me, time fer a reevenge voote in order t' deeflect soospicion away from me" card in our little game o' Go-Fish we have goht oorselves heere. Be I jumpin' on the bandwagon? Be there even a bandwagon yet? I cannot say for certain, boot I cahn say 'at the Zodiac be in th' phase where a fish is joost as likely to mate with a bear as 'tis with a great horned owl. Premoonitions? Ouija? Ye need not fear how I communicate with th' pizza spirits of old, boot know this for a certain: there be a gummy bear among us.

Unvote: Jasper Heinz (Piratedave84)

Posted

I really don't know who to vote for. I don't want to go after a possible innocent and lynch the wrong person. At the same token I don't want that penalty of not voting. Has everyone been engaged in the conversation or do we still have stragglers who are silent. I'm going to be honest if i'm suspicious of anyone it's those who have either not spoken at all or just the bare minimum to seem like they're involved so they don't sound off. (I know some people don't post often because of real world reasons)

Posted

Well this day is certainly getting better, it would seem we have some interesting conversations going on. A few things stand out to me as suspicious.

Hey - I openly said that the vote for Alyssa is a poke and yes I certainly will move it before the end of the day unless others join me. Would you rather I was like half the people here and just sit back quietly, wait for a consensus to start building, and then quickly join the bandwagon? That doesn't seem like a very SHIELD way of handling things. I'd much rather be aggressive and hunt the Hydra! It "looks townie" because it IS and I AM. Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick.

So correct me if I am wrong here, but you first state you just voted for Alyssa as a poke and will move your vote.....unless others join you? What you really mean is you will move your vote if you don't effectively start a bandwagon on her. Which you feel is better to try and start a bandwagon than join one already in progress. I find most disturbing your last sentence .....'Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick'.

This is a very anti-SHEILD way of thinking. This statement makes me feel unwell......Jafar, I need a Grande Cappuccino with a side of a large cinnamon roll please.

Well, no, I cast the first vote to get things moving. I'm not afraid to vote because I'm the towniest of town.

My vote was justified ... by low post count ... which is a totally legitimate reason to lynch someone ... right? :blush:

I'm also going to cast my vote here: Vote: Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4)

1) his vote for Eugene and subsequent unvote was ill-placed (as was mine :blush:) and poorly justified.

2) his intention to wait and see strikes me very scummy; why wait? you can always unvote if you're not comfortable with your vote. Don't let others do the work for you; speculate (wildly if needs be, it's day one) talk, ask questions.

Yes and you have already voted three different times now. How comfortable are you with this latest vote?

Well since I can always unvote, might as well forget that post about waiting a being 99% sure. Vote: Jafar Masrani (JackJonespaw). It strikes me odd that he voted for me now when I have a bandwagon.

You never addressed my question about how could you be 99% sure, and now you want us to....'forget that post about waiting a being 99% sure'. And you cast a vote for the person who just cast a vote for you in the post right before yours. What do you find odd about him joining a bandwagon on you?

Yeah, have to say my mustache is pinging at the bandwagon building on Mr. Schram. I haven't been getting Hydra vibes off him, just new guy vibes. And we were all that once. But I don't know where his allegiance lies, I just know that the voting on him looks suspiciously like people (including almost certainly a Hydra or 3) picking an easy target.

No one knows allegiances except HYDRA, and day 1 bandwagons are always suspicious. Didn't you just say something about day 1 being random till something sticks? If you aren't getting HYDRA vibes off him then who do you feel is?

I just don't know who vibes more to me as HYDRA, him or you.

An unsubstantiated OMGUS vote does not really serve you well right now.

4 votes is a fair amount but I'm not sure if we are at the bandwagon stage yet.

Tell us why we should not vote for you; make me 99% sure you're on the level.

He has 5 votes. It really could go either way right now.

Posted

Mrs. Carrigan brings up some points I had missed in regarding Daniel Bartell. You defended me earlier so I won't make any moves yet regarding voting but i'm watching you.

Posted

Well since I can always unvote, might as well forget that post about waiting a being 99% sure. Vote: Jafar Masrani (JackJonespaw). It strikes me odd that he voted for me now when I have a bandwagon.

Revenge voting, now are we? :hmpf_bad:

I'm really not sure what to feel about Mr. Schram. He's the scummiest out of everyone, which is why I'm keeping my vote on him, but newbies often are scummy and I'm worried it might be simply down to him being inexperienced and not necessarily him being HYDRA. However, I've written off newbies as "newbies" before in the past and it's come back to bite me; newbie scum can essentially fly under the radar by playing the n00b card.

Essentially, Mr. Schram is going to be very hard to read if this behaviour continues later into the game, and at some point we're going to have to stop making allowances for newbie behaviour. Which is why I think we may as well lynch him today so as not to have to worry about him later on in the game...

Yeah, have to say my mustache is pinging at the bandwagon building on Mr. Schram. I haven't been getting Hydra vibes off him, just new guy vibes. And we were all that once. But I don't know where his allegiance lies, I just know that the voting on him looks suspiciously like people (including almost certainly a Hydra or 3) picking an easy target.

How about the votes on Jasper? Arguably more suspicious, since Jasper made a mistake, unlike Steven who is legitimately acting scummy. And you haven't mentioned Steven's own vote on Eugene, which is even worse.

Loooking at reecent activity, me hackles have been raised at the actions oof Mr. Schram. He loooks to be quite th' wishy-washy laddie, seearching oot every opportoonity t' divehrt attention away from hisself (as mister Heinz has so illoostriously pointed oot). He be playing th' ol' "Th' Indian cook voted against me, time fer a reevenge voote in order t' deeflect soospicion away from me" card in our little game o' Go-Fish we have goht oorselves heere. Be I jumpin' on the bandwagon? Be there even a bandwagon yet? I cannot say for certain, boot I cahn say 'at the Zodiac be in th' phase where a fish is joost as likely to mate with a bear as 'tis with a great horned owl. Premoonitions? Ouija? Ye need not fear how I communicate with th' pizza spirits of old, boot know this for a certain: there be a gummy bear among us.

Unvote: Jasper Heinz (Piratedave84)

I also find this worrying. You spend the whole post suspecting Steven, but you don't vote for him, mentioning the bandwagon as your reason. This almost seems as if someone behind the scenes has told you that you should make a post suspecting Steven so that you can use that as a reason for voting him later in the day, and with the added bonus of you not being seen as a bandwagoner. I've done this in the past as scum, and I can see it here.

Why the unvote? You've never said any reasons for thinking Jasper is town.... this really looks like a "springboard" post for a later vote on Steven.

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I'm going to cast a Vote: Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4)

I dont trust you, you're reasoning has been faulty, and I have to vote for someone. Look I'm not close minded, I don't want to lynch an innocent, if you don't seem as scummy as the day progresses I won't vote against you.

Posted

This almost seems as if someone behind the scenes has told you that you should make a post suspecting Steven so that you can use that as a reason for voting him later in the day, and with the added bonus of you not being seen as a bandwagoner.

Th' key woord being "almost", laddie. Th' phrase ah would replace "almost" with woold be "maybe sorta probably ah doon't really knoow aythin' if 1 were Snowy Owl and 10 were Barn Owl ah woold rate your potential scoominess at a solid Burrowing Owl." Ah hope ah'm gettin' me point across here.

Why the unvote? You've never said any reasons for thinking Jasper is town.... this really looks like a "springboard" post for a later vote on Steven.

Need ah spell oot everything? Ah voted on Jasper based on his then-fresh actions. In th' light of more recent action, th' possibility of him beeing HYDRA has diminished in m' eyes. Is 'at th' way this works, every working o' me mind's steam-powered dishwasher is laid bare before th' world? (By th' way, happy birthday, dishwasher!) Yoo are right in 'at post being a "springboard" post. With th' vindication of m' initial suspect, ah must wait until another one preesents him or her-self. And yes, at th' moment, Steven Schram be at the top o' me very short list of suspects (okay, so he be th' only suspect at th' moment). Is it so wrong to want to avoid a bandwagon? In this case, ah think the bandwagon is very understandable (yoo even are a part of 'at bandwagon). Hoowevah, time is upon me. Ah am faced with a decision to make. Like me pioneer ancestors of old, who trekked across th' Great White North, ah must find a bandwagon to hop on to so that ah may survive.

Vote: Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4)

Posted
So correct me if I am wrong here, but you first state you just voted for Alyssa as a poke and will move your vote.....unless others join you? What you really mean is you will move your vote if you don't effectively start a bandwagon on her. Which you feel is better to try and start a bandwagon than join one already in progress. I find most disturbing your last sentence .....'Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick'.

This is a very anti-SHEILD way of thinking. This statement makes me feel unwell......Jafar, I need a Grande Cappuccino with a side of a large cinnamon roll please.

A poke vote is fine, but it does feel a bit like Daniel was trying to do more than that and then got a bit nervous about his approach. I do wonder how Daniel would feel about voting Alyssa out if she doesn't show up at all. That seems quite unlikely at this point, so it's probably moot.

I'm really not sure what to feel about Mr. Schram. He's the scummiest out of everyone, which is why I'm keeping my vote on him, but newbies often are scummy and I'm worried it might be simply down to him being inexperienced and not necessarily him being HYDRA. However, I've written off newbies as "newbies" before in the past and it's come back to bite me; newbie scum can essentially fly under the radar by playing the n00b card.

Essentially, Mr. Schram is going to be very hard to read if this behaviour continues later into the game, and at some point we're going to have to stop making allowances for newbie behaviour. Which is why I think we may as well lynch him today so as not to have to worry about him later on in the game...

I'm not going to disagree with the notion that newbies often look scummy to the rest of us or the fact that newbies who look scummy can actually be scum. He very well could be scum. This does, however, look like a way for you to later explain away your vote if he comes up SHIELD.

Posted

So correct me if I am wrong here, but you first state you just voted for Alyssa as a poke and will move your vote.....unless others join you? What you really mean is you will move your vote if you don't effectively start a bandwagon on her. Which you feel is better to try and start a bandwagon than join one already in progress. I find most disturbing your last sentence .....'Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick'.

This has caught my eye the most out of the things said today, so I'll vote: Daniel Bartell (mostlytechnic). I'm inclined more towards fumbling newbie when it comes to Schram.

Posted

Th' key woord being "almost", laddie. Th' phrase ah would replace "almost" with woold be "maybe sorta probably ah doon't really knoow aythin' if 1 were Snowy Owl and 10 were Barn Owl ah woold rate your potential scoominess at a solid Burrowing Owl." Ah hope ah'm gettin' me point across here.

Need ah spell oot everything? Ah voted on Jasper based on his then-fresh actions. In th' light of more recent action, th' possibility of him beeing HYDRA has diminished in m' eyes. Is 'at th' way this works, every working o' me mind's steam-powered dishwasher is laid bare before th' world? (By th' way, happy birthday, dishwasher!) Yoo are right in 'at post being a "springboard" post. With th' vindication of m' initial suspect, ah must wait until another one preesents him or her-self. And yes, at th' moment, Steven Schram be at the top o' me very short list of suspects (okay, so he be th' only suspect at th' moment). Is it so wrong to want to avoid a bandwagon? In this case, ah think the bandwagon is very understandable (yoo even are a part of 'at bandwagon). Hoowevah, time is upon me. Ah am faced with a decision to make. Like me pioneer ancestors of old, who trekked across th' Great White North, ah must find a bandwagon to hop on to so that ah may survive.

Vote: Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4)

Really? Your going to find a bandwagon to hop on so that you can survive.....? That is definitely the way HYDRA thinks! And here I was about to vote for Jasper. Why you might ask, well he is not a newbie....he has voted three different times (rather quickly I might add) and he hasn't even given a good reason for his current vote. I can't write off his mistakes as easily as a newbies mistakes.

Yes Steven is saying scummy things, yes the bandwagon is on him (of which you just jumped on to survive) and he hasn't even put up a good defense yet. However, your sudden jumping on said bandwagon and reason for it....so you may survive...just put you at the top of my list and decided my vote for today.

Vote: Kinjobby O'Laughlin (Junior Shark)

I really, really need that strong coffee now.....Jafar!

Side note....please put your name in your signature block, it makes it easier to remember how to spell it. :classic:

Oh, and Mr. Bartell.....you are not out of my sights. I'm still waiting a response from you!

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So correct me if I am wrong here, but you first state you just voted for Alyssa as a poke and will move your vote.....unless others join you? What you really mean is you will move your vote if you don't effectively start a bandwagon on her. Which you feel is better to try and start a bandwagon than join one already in progress. I find most disturbing your last sentence .....'Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick'.

This is a very anti-SHEILD way of thinking. This statement makes me feel unwell......Jafar, I need a Grande Cappuccino with a side of a large cinnamon roll please.

I'll grant that "day 1 is random votes till something starts to stick" is a crappy fact for the town, but that doesn't diminish the fact that it is indeed a factual statement. When has the town ever had anything to really base a day 1 vote on? I sure don't remember it ever happening. Day 1 is tossing votes around until a wagon gets up enough steam to reach a majority. That's just how it is, and it's why being able to look back at the vote patterns later is important.

Mrs. Carrigan brings up some points I had missed in regarding Daniel Bartell. You defended me earlier so I won't make any moves yet regarding voting but i'm watching you.

No, I did not defend you. There's a big difference between what I did and defending you. When person A says something dumb about person B, I can address person A's comments without it meaning I'm defending person B.

A poke vote is fine, but it does feel a bit like Daniel was trying to do more than that and then got a bit nervous about his approach. I do wonder how Daniel would feel about voting Alyssa out if she doesn't show up at all. That seems quite unlikely at this point, so it's probably moot.

If Alyssa doesn't show up, I'd gladly vote her out when there's nothing more substantial to base a vote on. I guess I wasn't clear earlier. When I said I'd move my vote later unless others joined me, I meant that if others joined me, I'd see her reaction and then keep the vote on her if warranted. Incomplete thought there in my post, sorry. More importantly, she did bother to appear since my poke just long enough to throw an obvious OMGUS vote my way. Frankly, that makes me seriously think about unvoting her because it's such a "scummy" reaction that it's too obvious for her to normally have done that. She's better than that when she's scum.

And someone else asked about who's not been around... well, at this point all 16 of us have said something today. But James Cunningham, Hailey Coleman, and Alyssa have each spoken just twice, and Cecilia Reed, Walter Williams, and David Leffel have only spoken thrice. Everyone else is at 5 or more.

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Vote Tally

4 votes for Eugene Lawson (Forresto): (Penalty x4)

1 vote for Jasper Heinz (PirateDave84): (Tariq j)

7 votes for Steven Schram (Khscarymovie4): (Dragonfire, Darkdragon, Bob, Piratedave84, JackJonespaw, Forresto, Junior Shark)

1 vote for Alyssa Turner (CallMePie): (mostlytechnic)

2 votes for Kinjobby O'Laughlin (Junior Shark): (Comrade Commander, Lady K)

2 votes for Daniel Bartell (mostlytechnic): (fhomess, CallMePie)

1 vote for Jafar Masrani (JackJonespaw): (Khscarymovie4)

Nonvoting (2): (jluck, Umbra-Manis)

With 16 players remaining, a majority of 9 is required for a lynch. Approximately 9 hours remain in the day. Please remember that voting is mandatory. Failure to vote will result in a vote penalty of half the required majority for Day 2.

Posted

Well this day is certainly getting better, it would seem we have some interesting conversations going on. A few things stand out to me as suspicious.

So correct me if I am wrong here, but you first state you just voted for Alyssa as a poke and will move your vote.....unless others join you? What you really mean is you will move your vote if you don't effectively start a bandwagon on her. Which you feel is better to try and start a bandwagon than join one already in progress. I find most disturbing your last sentence .....'Day one is always about random votes being thrown till something starts to stick'.

This is a very anti-SHEILD way of thinking. This statement makes me feel unwell......Jafar, I need a Grande Cappuccino with a side of a large cinnamon roll please.

(snip)

I think this has merit, it just doesn't quite sit right with me. I'll be logging in periodically the rest of the day so I'm willing to switch if we need a lynch.

Vote: Daniel Bartell (mostlytechnic)

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