42056 - Porsche Speculation

[zux]

Is it? Of course it is cheaper to buy a whole set rather than piece by piece, but the way I see it is simple. Let's say I don't own any Lego and I want to buy pieces from scratch for the Porsche from Crowkillers, isn't bricklink the cheapest way to collect all pieces from? Still $370 is what it costs.

If you insist on BL. Bricklinking this Porsche will cost you twice as it cost now. New pieces, parts in new colours will cost a ton.

[JamesJT]

The chassis reminds me of 8860. Where's the fuel tank?

[Tommy Styrvoky]

The chassis reminds me of 8860. Where's the fuel tank?

it's a very eco-friendly Porsche, it runs on a very small scale LPE.... Who want's PF when you can run on air... no need for batteries.

The fuel tank would be on the front passenger side of the car. It would be cool to see a version of this with added brake lines and fuel lines.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Tommy Styrvoky

[MSc Shobaki]

If you insist on BL. Bricklinking this Porsche will cost you twice as it cost now. New pieces, parts in new colours will cost a ton.

What are you talking about now? What I mean is that I can either build Crowkillers version for $370 or buy the new TLG Porsche for $300. Both looks good, both lack PF.

[zux]

What are you talking about now? What I mean is that I can either build Crowkillers version for $370 or buy the new TLG Porsche for $300. Both looks good, both lack PF.

Crowkiller's model price is based on BL, Porsche's is priced by TLG. If you want to compare them in price you need to consider using single source for bricks. Porsche's new pieces and parts in new colours will cost a lot on BL, believe me. Thus Bricklinking 42056 might cost you much more than $300 without fancy box and instructions.

[paul_delahaye]

I'm not blown away, the car looks good, the features are nice, would have maybe liked to see working head and tail lights, but I can live with this.

They are selling the luxury packaging, but when he lifted the lid, it did not look as good a quality packaging as the 8448 Super Street Sensation of which there just happens to be a review I've spotted on the front page of Brickset today, and the packaging on that one looked better.

As for the phone book manual, that looks to be where most the cost of this product has gone into to. £200, it would have been a top set, £250 will be ok, but I won't feel like it's good value when I'm building it.

[aol000xw]

Is it? Of course it is cheaper to buy a whole set rather than piece by piece, but the way I see it is simple. Let's say I don't own any Lego and I want to buy pieces from scratch for the Porsche from Crowkillers, isn't bricklink the cheapest way to collect all pieces from? Still $370 is what it costs.

Seriously the logic is so flawed that I don't feel I will be able to make you understand why.

Besides, Porsche is a high performance car so for me the price is okay!

Good job, TLG loves that kind of thinking. If you are happy with it go for it.

Ok, if that is the case please enlighten me on another way to acquire a lego super car like this then so we can compare that. The comparison isn't the same but it is the only one I know of.

Just because it is the only one you know does not mean it is right.

There is no point in comparing The Porsche out of the official sets range. There have been other sets with premium package. bigger sets, there is plenty in the Lego history to figure out a sensible objective value of the set. Then you can discuss how much money are you willing to give away just for the novelty and some black recycled cardboard. But that doesn't change the objective value of what is in the box in relation to the other sets.

I've been an early adopter of many technologies, I paid and still do a premium for many things -hell paid 400€ for my first 80GB Intel SSD- but I never hide the fact that I am being an idiot paying an unjustified amount of money just because I want something that I know shouldn't be priced the way it is.

It is Ok to be willing to pay the 300€. Subjective value can't be priced, and If you don't mind being milked great for you. But the math does not hold on this one, arguing to defend TLG princing on this set is pure fanboyism.

I prefer to buy it knowing that I am beign an idiot by choice than a fanboy.

[Meatman]

I don't know why people here complain about the price. Let me give you an example:

Crowkillers Porsche 997 GT3 is built of 1841 pcs and features:

-6 speed transmission

"Hand of God" steering system with functional Dash Steering Wheel

Flat 6 Rear mounted Engine

Full Independent Suspension

Opening Hood, Doors and Trunk

Bricklinking the parts (93% of the required=1728 pcs), they cost roughly $330. To build it you need to buy all the parts plus the instructions. So by assuming you need roughly $370. And on top of that, you won't get a box or stickers.

The Porsche from TLG comes with minimum of 2700 pcs which is ~870 more than Crowkillers. None of them has PF or RC.

Tell me what you think!

You are comparing an AFOL model that has many parts that are no longer in production and dealers are selling them at crazy prices.

If you insist on BL. Bricklinking this Porsche will cost you twice as it cost now. New pieces, parts in new colours will cost a ton.

I bet those 4 wheels and tires will sell for over $100. I doubt we'll be able to purchase them from Lego.

What I see in this picture, is a modular body! So probably the body is removable, making the naked chassis visible, and changing to another color easier! This thing reveals more and more good things.

The Modular Body makes a ton of sense so that people can see what is really happening. This is a bonus for sure.

[TheRacker]

Any word on if this will be sold in limited numbers or not?

[Kaanere]

About the exclusive number:

I think that it will be some sort of Chassis number, not limited but numbered.

[AlphaX]

About the exclusive number:

I think that it will be some sort of Chassis number, not limited but numbered.

Yeah, i also doubt that it will be limited.

[Emmi]

The modular body makes a lot of sense ... hasn't LEGO said that the building process of this set is simular to how the real Porsche 911 GT3 RS is build together ...

Also I really think I won't assemble the stickers coming with this set, apart from the interior stickers (dashboard, ...) Does the huge sticker on the wheel arches really add anything??? It's one of those stickers to peel off after a few years, I won't risk that, I think it looks just fine without the sticker as well.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Emmi

[Samer]

This is going to be my most exciting Rebrick project ahead

[Emmi]

Is it just me or is the body work in lava orange color here? Or is it just the saturation of the image?

[Beard]

Is it just me or is the body work in lava orange color here? Or is it just the saturation of the image?

It's all in the white balance. I think it's still the normal orange.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Beard

[Emmi]

I'm still thinking ... where are the 2.704 pieces in this model??? I mean we can easily compare this to last years Arocs ... from the images we have seen so far I really can't find the 2.704 pieces I believe that's a good thing because there must be A LOT going on deep into the chassis.

Also what we forget ... this car is huge, I mean really huge ... it's actually bigger than the Arocs (length 54cm) (Porsche length 57cm)!

[JGW3000]

Look at the container of parts in the lower right, the shade of orange used in the pile of bushings is different than on the car parts, maybe the car is lava orange? No way of knowing until some clear well balanced images become available.

Edited April 26, 2016 by JGW3000

[Emmi]

Look at the container of parts in the lower right, the shade of orange used in the pile bushings is different than on the car parts, maybe the car is lava orange? No way of knowing until some clear well balanced images become available.

No, it's been confirmed that it's standard orange ... I mean just watch the Designer Video, it's clearly not lava orange.

[DrJB]

Since we're talking about orange, here is a full orange car, from a lego event here in Chicago. I thought the Porsche looked a bit different, but then again, lighting conditions and other settings do affect the perceived color. Unless one does some 'image processing' based on some standard colors as reference. Would the blue building help to 'calibrate' the processing? I have the full size (4x) image available if anyone is interested.

Edited April 26, 2016 by DrJB

[AlphaX]

What I find amazing is that even sites like TopGear are promoting it as "lava Orange" wich it clearly isn't. They've even put on edited images http://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/you-need-lego-porsche-911-gt3-rs with the orange colours turned up to fit the "lava-orange". This makes me sad as it clearly shows how they're trying to misguide people into believing that the model has the same colour as the real car.

[Lox Lego]

[Paperballpark]

Right, I've read the last 5 or so pages of comments since it was unveiled, and I just thought I'd say this, as someone who isn't really into Technic, and has only got one small (modern, studless) Technic set, which I got given for free about a year and a half ago.

I really like the BWE when that was shown off earlier in the year, and I may well get that, but the preliminary Porsche images didn't really do much for me. Plus, I'm not really a Porsche fan.

However, as soon as I saw the final images of the orange version, I loved it. I love how big it is and how faithful it looks. Oh and orange is my favourite colour, so there's that too. I'll definitely be getting it.

Quite honestly, I read people moaning on here about the lack of 'hand of god' steering, or the lack of 'proper' suspension, or it 'only' having a four speed gearbox, or not having a new piece for the flappy paddle gearbox, and it all goes over my head. I don't care about any of that. I'm not a Technic geek, I just love how it looks and all the features it does have.

I think this is Lego Technic's equivalent of the Modular buildings. It will get people who wouldn't normally be interested in Technic, interested in it. It'll draw them into the range.

And it'll be a stunning display model. I'm looking at moving house soon, and this model will take pride of place in my living room. It might even displace my Tower Bridge, which has been my main display model for the last 2 and a half years.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Paperballpark

[Alternator]

I think allanp has hit the nail on the head here.

At the moment I'm scratching my head over the price, what is in this set to make it so expensive?

Is it the most expensive technic set ever? It sure doesn't look close to being the most impressive one ever (not that it looks like a bad set, I will get it if I can justify the spend).

I think the big thing for me is how close this set is getting to Mindstorm prices...

[Paul Boratko]

What I find amazing is that even sites like TopGear are promoting it as "lava Orange" wich it clearly isn't. They've even put on edited images http://www.topgear.c...sche-911-gt3-rs with the orange colours turned up to fit the "lava-orange". This makes me sad as it clearly shows how they're trying to misguide people into believing that the model has the same colour as the real car.

I actually came here to post about this.. They are saying the parts are Lava Orange and even edited the box photos to match the real color.. Now why would Top Gear go out of their way to edit the pictures and make these claims...?

Edited April 26, 2016 by Paul Boratko

[N-4K0]

I have to admit that this edited color looks awesome on this car, but they're basically lying when they claim that this is the color of the model. I don't get it.