Merchant's Colonial Trading Company - General Discussion

[Kai NRG]

Wait a minute, there is as far as I know no place in the new world big enough to be allowed a royal factory?

There is no limit on location for Royal Factories. Perhaps you are thinking of Royal Forts?

Myles Bowditch will be buying one share in the Royal Factory! Let me know when to transfer the DBs...

Whenever, and to MCTC specifically please.

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Guy K. Wyndzon will be buying 6 shares in the factory.

[Sir Stig]

Victor Servadac, on behalf of the White Glove Order, will be buying at least 6 shares in the Royal Factory. More if we get the tool to double check our accounts this month.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Sir Stig

[Phadeout]

Sign me up for two in the name of Alejandro Dr la Calle

[Capt Wolf]

Willem Guilder will commit to buying 4 shares.

[Sir Stig]

MCTC Members:

6 shares Guy K. Wyndzon (Kai NRG)

6 shares Victor Servadac (Sir Stig)

2 share Alejandro De la Calle (Phadeout)

4 shares Willem Guilder (Capt Wolf)

1 share Revon de Crocodil (Umbra-Manis)

8-10 shares Fontanajo (Elostirion)

Other investors:

1 share Myles Bowditch (Garmadon)

27-29 MCTC member Shares

1 Other

All shares practically gone.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Sir Stig

[Maxim I]

If I am correct, yield every month is 500. Divided by 20, this makes 25 shares.

Licencing cost is 3000. Cost of a share is 50.

25x50 makes 1250. So MCTC has to pay 1750 db out of its coffers???

[Sir Stig]

If I am correct, yield every month is 500. Divided by 20, this makes 25 shares.

Licencing cost is 3000. Cost of a share is 50.

25x50 makes 1250. So MCTC has to pay 1750 db out of its coffers???

50 for MCTC members. 75 for other investors, if MCTC members don't have enough to buy all the shares.

It is 30 shares though. More shares, but lower payout. The payout is slightly lower than if you would invest in a royal factory personally, but who has those amounts of dbs laying around on their own (perhaps Bregir ). At the same time, an investment of 50/75 dbs that pay out 20/month is a good investment. This is a prime example of what kind of ventures you get first option to buy into, when you have a membership in the MCTC

MCTC members have been active in building up MCTC in these first months, and the results are starting to show. This is one way to repay the members for their loyalty and support. (And possibly some other lucky investors).

Edited April 13, 2016 by Sir Stig

[Legostone]

50 for MCTC members. 75 for other investors, if MCTC members don't have enough to buy all the shares.

It is 30 shares though. More shares, but lower payout. The payout is slightly lower than if you would invest in a royal factory personally, but who has those amounts of dbs laying around on their own (perhaps Bregir ). At the same time, an investment of 50/75 dbs that pay out 20/month is a good investment. This is a prime example of what kind of ventures you get first option to buy into, when you have a membership in the MCTC

MCTC members have been active in building up MCTC in these first months, and the results are starting to show. This is one way to repay the members for their loyalty and support. (And possibly some other lucky investors).

The math still doesn't check out - 75 * 30 = 2250, which is 750 DB to little. 500/30 is 16 + 2/3; you would have to pay extra. Instead of this I would recommend 25 shares earning 20 DB each for a price of 80 for MCTC members and 120 for others (at least thats what I would recommend - off course there are other options.

[Umbra-Manis]

Revon de Crocodil will buy 1 share.

[Kai NRG]

If I am correct, yield every month is 500. Divided by 20, this makes 25 shares.

Licencing cost is 3000. Cost of a share is 50.

25x50 makes 1250. So MCTC has to pay 1750 db out of its coffers???

MCTC is covering 1500 DBs.

This is a textile factory, so it falls under the bonus and will pay 750 DBs a month.

30 shares, at (at least) 50 DBs each = 1500 = license paid for.

Each share makes 20 DBs, so that's 600 DBs going to shareholders, leaving 150 DBs for MCTC.

The one share for the builder will be paid for by a combination of MCTC and the Weelond Bank (because the Factory will be built in Weelond).

[Maxim I]

1500 db? No way MCTC has this in their coffers..

Edited April 13, 2016 by Maxim I

[Elostirion]

I am willing to buy 10 shares. I am currently not 100% sure if I have enough money for 10, but I will have the money for eight shares 100% sure and most, most likely for 9 as well.

Will double check at Saturday.

[Tezclatipoca]

1500 db? No way MCTC has this in their coffers..

Erh... Dear CEO... I think the MCTC has the money. They are much more members than MAESTRO's and most of them are very active players ! In addition they were more lucky in their trade runs. So, I made an estimation and I am concluding the MCTC can pay this factory !

Incredible but true !

Congrats guys ! You did a great investment for Eslandola !

[Maxim I]

So technically seen, we can start licencing stuff like this:

Licence cost 100 db

Yield 20 db

1 share for 50 db each and yield 18 db/month

Trade company pays also 50 db a month and is happy with 2db yield?

This is gaming the system, but I am very happy to know it will be legit...

[Elostirion]

Maxim, I really don't understand your calculations? What about that is gaming the system? If the TC is willing to pay money to benefit its members - why not?

[Maxim I]

Because if MCTC wants to do that, it has to benefit all their members. Right now, only the lucky ones who made already a lot of money will enjoy those extra benefits as the others are not able to buy multiple shares...

But that's not my problem, you are right. I am happy to be leader of a TC where we actually take care of all members...

The only problem I got with this, is that there is no way MCTC can have 1500 db's

[Kai NRG]

@Maxim - this is something that has been discussed between MCTC members and you don't have to worry about some members getting ripped off to the benefit of others.

From reasons unrelated to what has been stated in this thread however the math may have to be corrected - just a caveat so I don't look so silly if I have to change things up.

[Maxim I]

daamnit Kai, you posted again before me :p

Never mind. i am sure you want the best for MCTC and Eslandola and it really is a great initiative!

Edited April 13, 2016 by Maxim I

[Elostirion]

I guess that's rather simple: In case MCTC does not, leadership will prevent the deal from happening.

If leadership does not prevent the deal from happening MCTC either has the money already or has found a way to get the money.

Also I don't see how this is benefitting only a few members? Everyone who has been building only two FBs per month would easily have 50 DBs by now.

Yes, maybe the inactive members don't get a thing from that, but they shouldn't anyways (and probably don't want to).

Also I'd rather have the benefit for one share than for no share at all... Even if I was the poorest of us all.

But then again, who am I arguing with? :-)

[Capt Wolf]

Because if MCTC wants to do that, it has to benefit all their members. Right now, only the lucky ones who made already a lot of money will enjoy those extra benefits as the others are not able to buy multiple shares...

But that's not my problem, you are right. I am happy to be leader of a TC where we actually take care of all members...

All the trade members benefit by having a healthy trade company. A TC member might not buy into the factory, but if the factory allows the TC to help finance a large ship that other members buy into, or build ships that serve as escorts in the MRCA, other members benefit.

[Phadeout]

Doing my accounts and I nowbelieve Alejandro de la Valle can actually afford three shares not two

Edited April 13, 2016 by Phadeout

[Garmadon]

Wow! I thought it might take a while to finance with such a large amount of shares and I'm already in danger of being ousted only a few hours later! I guess most of the MCTC members had made more profit lately then I thought! (Not a bad thing at all, let's show them, Eslandola rules whenever it comes to DBs )

[Stash2Sixx]

Atticus Cuervo would like to purchase one share in the Factory. Yes, the money will be available by the end of April.

[Kai NRG]

Whew! I think we're sold out... maybe even a little over!

Kai NRG - 6

Sir Stig - 6

Phadeout - 3

Stash2Sixx - 1

Capt Wolf - 4

Elostirion - 10

Umbra-Manis - 1

Garmadon - 1

That's 32, plus the builder's share (which will go to Elostirion I believe). 33 out of 30 shares sold (unless the rate changes).

If there are any other MCTC members who would really like to be in on this and have the money go ahead and apply, but for now at least no more non-MCTC applicants please (and we might have to boot you, Garmadon ).

[Kai NRG]

Those of you who have bought shares in the Royal Factory, please transfer the DBs (if you haven't already) and be sure to post in this thread confirming the transfer please!

Garmadon - 75 DBs

Sir Stig - 250 DBs

Phadeout - 150 DBs

Capt Wolf - 200 DBs

Umbra-Manis - 50 DBs

Kai NRG - 250 DBs

Elostirion - 450 DBs

Stash2Sixx - 50 DBs

Shares are divided up as follows:

Augustinian Colonial Textile (ACT), Factory (Terms)

Shares:______________________Monthly

Garmadon (ETWC)____1________20 DBs

Sir Stig______________5_______100 DBs

Phadeout____________3________60 DBs

Capt Wolf____________4________80 DBs

Umbra-Manis_________1________20 DBs

Kai NRG_____________5_______100 DBs

Elostirion____________10_______200 DBs____Note: One of these is "builder's share."

Stash2Sixx___________1________20 DBs

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I have transferred my 250.