Ranger of the Forest Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 2:15 AM, mediumsnowman said: *singsong* Bandwagon... Third on the wagon is a nice spot for the scum to hide. Coupled with your suspicious silence, I'm comfortable enough to Vote: Delwyn Couch (Ranger of the Forest) This vote is subject to change, especially if we need a lynch by the end of today. I'd hardly call it a wagon, all things considered. Did you see the vote count so far? 3 people with 2 votes on them, and a ton of others with 1 vote. Not very much consensus yet. I even said that my vote was almost entirely subject to change, especially if we need to get a lynch. Which I think we should all start trying to do. On 12/12/2015 at 4:09 AM, Tachyon said: Then do you want me to continue the bandwagon on you ? It doesn't bother me in the slightest on whether you die or not. If your'e scum that's bonus. If your not, then I treat it as a day 1 mislynch. Even if I get lynched today, the town doesn't lose anyone important. ...alright then. Not really sure what to make of this. Soft claiming vanilla seems rather unnecessary. I find your behavior very strange, but I'm not sure if I should attribute that to your newness or something else... On 12/12/2015 at 10:27 AM, Tariq j said: Honestly, Jluck hasn't actually pinged me that much, he posts haven't been normal for sure but I see it as his role playing personality than scummy posts. But what I do find suspicious is you quickly jumping on the easiest bandwagon. So for that reason: Vote: Delwyn Couch (Ranger of the Forest) Look, vote for me if you want, but just because you don't find him suspicious doesn't mean no one else can. I think just chalking things up to someone's play style is a dangerous thing to do, and the scum can easily use it to their advantage. I mean, look at what happened with Gale not so very long ago. I honestly am tired of apologizing for not being active all the time. I made my first post minutes after remembering what was going on. And generally, if I don't have anything to say, I'm not going to waste space with meaningless fluff. That's not going to help the town. Just because you're always active doesn't mean you're town. And calling out people for not being active is a very easy way to make yourself look useful, without actually doing anything productive. Yes, I've only posted once so far today, I MUST be scum. :eyeroll: In light of Perce's bizarre contributions, I feel more willing to overlook Anthony's own quibbles. But right now, I'm keeping my vote where it is. When we can come to a consensus on our next lynch candidate, I will change my vote. Right now I am slightly suspicious of Mike, but since he voted for me I doubt that will be counted as a legitimate concern But yeah, people whose posts consist only of fluff and telling other people to participate piss me off. I'm looking especially at Quincy, whose posts seem to fall right in the category of trying to look useful while not doing much of anything. Besides being rather sheepish. On second thought, I have more reason to vote for him than I do for Anthony. Unvote: Anthony Dixon (Jluck) Vote: Quincy Easton (KingoftheZempk) Again, this may very well change, but for now I like my vote. On 12/12/2015 at 7:11 PM, mediumsnowman said: Hey Delwyn, I see you're here, so what are your thoughts? I also see you haven't defended yourself or even acknowledged the fact that you've garnered 2 votes so far. Is this a good enough summation of my thoughts? Or do I need to "defend" myself further?
mediumsnowman Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 7:18 PM, Ranger of the Forest said: Is this a good enough summation of my thoughts? Or do I need to "defend" myself further? Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for. If everyone was able to put all their thoughts out on the table and float their suspicions we'd be much closer to catching the sleepers.
Ranger of the Forest Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 8:07 PM, mediumsnowman said: Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for. If everyone was able to put all their thoughts out on the table and float their suspicions we'd be much closer to catching the sleepers. Agreed. We need to decide on a lynch candidate, sooner rather than later. Just because it's day one and we (meaning the town) don't know much of anything yet, doesn't mean we shouldn't have a lynch. I'm glad there's no one bandwagon, and that everyone (for the most part) is expressing their own opinion, but it would be nice if we could all reach some sort of consensus before the day is over.
Cutcobra Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Geez. Four pages and we are barely in the first day. Let's see which one of you looks suspicious enough (I'll vote in a while, but first I have to catch up on everything)
Dragonfire Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 5:03 PM, Tariq j said: That's an interesting point, Gale, you haven't shown up at all in the whole day - what are your thoughts on the matter? I've also noticed there seem to be a lot of other members who've ducked the ball - Ewan, Delwyn. I believe both of them have voted/posted on Page Two. To be honest, Humphrey and I find On 12/12/2015 at 7:18 PM, Ranger of the Forest said: I'd hardly call it a wagon, all things considered. Did you see the vote count so far? 3 people with 2 votes on them, and a ton of others with 1 vote. Not very much consensus yet. I even said that my vote was almost entirely subject to change, especially if we need to get a lynch. Which I think we should all start trying to do. ...alright then. Not really sure what to make of this. Soft claiming vanilla seems rather unnecessary. I find your behavior very strange, but I'm not sure if I should attribute that to your newness or something else... Look, vote for me if you want, but just because you don't find him suspicious doesn't mean no one else can. I think just chalking things up to someone's play style is a dangerous thing to do, and the scum can easily use it to their advantage. I mean, look at what happened with Gale not so very long ago. I honestly am tired of apologizing for not being active all the time. I made my first post minutes after remembering what was going on. And generally, if I don't have anything to say, I'm not going to waste space with meaningless fluff. That's not going to help the town. Just because you're always active doesn't mean you're town. And calling out people for not being active is a very easy way to make yourself look useful, without actually doing anything productive. Yes, I've only posted once so far today, I MUST be scum. :eyeroll: In light of Perce's bizarre contributions, I feel more willing to overlook Anthony's own quibbles. But right now, I'm keeping my vote where it is. When we can come to a consensus on our next lynch candidate, I will change my vote. Right now I am slightly suspicious of Mike, but since he voted for me I doubt that will be counted as a legitimate concern But yeah, people whose posts consist only of fluff and telling other people to participate piss me off. I'm looking especially at Quincy, whose posts seem to fall right in the category of trying to look useful while not doing much of anything. Besides being rather sheepish. On second thought, I have more reason to vote for him than I do for Anthony. Unvote: Anthony Dixon (Jluck) Vote: Quincy Easton (KingoftheZempk) Again, this may very well change, but for now I like my vote. Is this a good enough summation of my thoughts? Or do I need to "defend" myself further? Messed up my post, sorry On 12/12/2015 at 5:03 PM, Tariq j said: That's an interesting point, Gale, you haven't shown up at all in the whole day - what are your thoughts on the matter? I've also noticed there seem to be a lot of other members who've ducked the ball - Ewan, Delwyn. I believe both have voted/posted on page two. To be honest, Humphrey and I find your calling-out of some of our quieter neighbours quite scummy. You're speaking without saying anything of substance and attempting to divert the focus to less active people (less active doesn't necessarily mean scum). Why not analyse the posts we have instead of shouting at the people who aren't online? Let's be honest, your asking them to speak isn't going to make them get online faster. On 12/12/2015 at 7:18 PM, Ranger of the Forest said: In light of Perce's bizarre contributions, I feel more willing to overlook Anthony's own quibbles. But right now, I'm keeping my vote where it is. When we can come to a consensus on our next lynch candidate, I will change my vote. Right now I am slightly suspicious of Mike, but since he voted for me I doubt that will be counted as a legitimate concern But yeah, people whose posts consist only of fluff and telling other people to participate piss me off. I'm looking especially at Quincy, whose posts seem to fall right in the category of trying to look useful while not doing much of anything. Besides being rather sheepish. On second thought, I have more reason to vote for him than I do for Anthony. Unvote: Anthony Dixon (Jluck) Vote: Quincy Easton (KingoftheZempk) Again, this may very well change, but for now I like my vote. Bold/red added for emphasis. That's a very quick turnaround. Why the sudden 180?
JackJonespaw Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Current Votes: 1 Vote for Ewan Breckenridge: (def) 1 Vote for Elijah: (jluck) 1 Vote for Anthony Dixon: (Lady K) 2 Votes for Delwyn Couch: (mediumsnowman, Tariq J) 1 Vote for Molly Tolbert: (Tamomono) 1 Vote for Doctor Wynn: (Tachyon) 1 Vote for Ray Christiansen: (Bob) 2 Votes for Perce Triggs: (TinyPiesRUs, KingoftheZempk) 1 Vote for Mike Johnson: (Dragonfire) 1 Vote for Quincy Easton: (Ranger of the Forest) WIth 17 players, it'll take a majority of 9 votes to complete a lynch. You have a little more than 27 hours to reach a consensus.
Cutcobra Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 So, as far as I can see, the first few votes were based on nothing so I won't be looking into them that much. The fact that Perce Triggs just voted Doctor Wynn out of the blue seems to seem like a typical newbie mistake, nothing special. But the way that Ray Christianen responded to Perce's random vote makes me curious: On 12/12/2015 at 11:18 AM, Dragonfire said: Big ping. Exactly. You aren't adding anything to discussion. It just seems like fluff to make it seem like you are actually part of the discussion. And Delwyn already said what I was going to say about Quincy and if it comes to it, I will vote for her so that we can have a majority as I do find her scummy, but not as scummy as I find Ray here. Vote: Ray Chistiansen (Dragonfire)
Tariq j Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 8:59 PM, Dragonfire said: I believe both have voted/posted on page two. To be honest, Humphrey and I find your calling-out of some of our quieter neighbours quite scummy. You're speaking without saying anything of substance and attempting to divert the focus to less active people (less active doesn't necessarily mean scum). Why not analyse the posts we have instead of shouting at the people who aren't online? Let's be honest, your asking them to speak isn't going to make them get online faster. I did analyse the posts (actually a lot of people did) and there was no reply. How are we suppose to come to a decision if no one defends them-self? Of course, I respect everyone has commitments on and off EB and RL is a priority but that was the point I was trying to make.
Lady K Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 3:14 PM, Lady K said: Odd that we have so many suspects and Gale graced us with an appearance and didn't leave any thoughts or even one opinion for us......as a matter of fact he hasn't even sung once for us since this day has begun. The point I was trying to make that seems to have been missed by or mislead by those quoting me is that Gale has been here and failed to make any kind of post at all, not even one (22 hrs IRL). Everyone else has said something even if some was just fluff.
Dragonfire Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 9:10 PM, Cutcobra said: So, as far as I can see, the first few votes were based on nothing so I won't be looking into them that much. The fact that Perce Triggs just voted Doctor Wynn out of the blue seems to seem like a typical newbie mistake, nothing special. But the way that Ray Christianen responded to Perce's random vote makes me curious: You aren't adding anything to discussion. It just seems like fluff to make it seem like you are actually part of the discussion. And Delwyn already said what I was going to say about Quincy and if it comes to it, I will vote for her so that we can have a majority as I do find her scummy, but not as scummy as I find Ray here. Vote: Ray Chistiansen (Dragonfire) If you're going to vote me for not contributing, then you haven't read the whole game. Reread all my posts first, mate. Frankly, it's an unfair accusation. On 12/12/2015 at 9:34 PM, Tariq j said: I did analyse the posts (actually a lot of people did) and there was no reply. How are we suppose to come to a decision if no one defends them-self? Of course, I respect everyone has commitments on and off EB and RL is a priority but that was the point I was trying to make. Yes, but as I (and Humphrey) said, calling them out doesn't automatically bring them online.
Tariq j Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 10:19 PM, Dragonfire said: Yes, but as I (and Humphrey) said, calling them out doesn't automatically bring them online. Fair enough . But on some, not all occasions members have been reading the topic, in any case point taken.
Cutcobra Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 10:19 PM, Dragonfire said: If you're going to vote me for not contributing, then you haven't read the whole game. Reread all my posts first, mate. Frankly, it's an unfair accusation. Sorry. I was still writing my post when you posted that last message and it didn't feel like fluff to me this time. Unvote: Ray Christiansen I would vote for Quincy now but I don't want to jump to conclusions since my only reasoning is fluff and I thought that Ray was scummy for posting fluff in the beginning (I was clearly wrong).
def Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I really want to emphasise the scumminess of Ewan. He jumped on Delwyn's boneheaded accusation of me, whereupon I jumped on him and he went silent. Things have been hectic since, so it makes sense to lie low. It's been a long time since someone gave me such strong day one bad vibes. As it is, there is no strong candidate, and that's fair at the start of the day, but we should start to come together in the next hours.
Dragonfire Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 10:34 PM, Tariq j said: Fair enough . But on some, not all occasions members have been reading the topic, in any case point taken. Gale has been reading the topic, Humphrey spotted that before I did but the others haven't, as far as I know. On 12/12/2015 at 10:42 PM, Cutcobra said: Sorry. I was still writing my post when you posted that last message and it didn't feel like fluff to me this time. You posted at 10:10pm my time. I posted at 09.59pm my time. Did you take eleven minutes to write that post? On 12/12/2015 at 10:43 PM, def said: I really want to emphasise the scumminess of Ewan. He jumped on Delwyn's boneheaded accusation of me, whereupon I jumped on him and he went silent. Things have been hectic since, so it makes sense to lie low. It's been a long time since someone gave me such strong day one bad vibes. As it is, there is no strong candidate, and that's fair at the start of the day, but we should start to come together in the next hours. Has Ewan been online since then? If so, then he's definitely lying low.
Ranger of the Forest Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 8:59 PM, Dragonfire said: Bold/red added for emphasis. That's a very quick turnaround. Why the sudden 180? Yes, I know To be honest, the more I wrote about Quincy, the more guilty he seemed to me. I still don’t think Anthony is in the clear, mind you, but for now I feel Quincy is the better vote. And if I have to change votes again for us all to get a lynch, so be it. There’s no limit on how many times you can vote/unvote, so I don’t feel there’s anything wrong with me changing my opinion. Do you not find Quincy suspicious as well? On 12/12/2015 at 9:10 PM, Cutcobra said: And Delwyn already said what I was going to say about Quincy and if it comes to it, I will vote for her so that we can have a majority as I do find her scummy I assume you’re talking about Quincy here? On 12/12/2015 at 10:43 PM, def said: I really want to emphasise the scumminess of Ewan. He jumped on Delwyn's boneheaded accusation of me I believe you should be referring to someone else here...? I haven’t accused you at all thus far... A lot of people have been pinging me on and off, but my opinion changes frequently the more I read/think about these things. And as it’s day one, there’s not a lot of substantial evidence for any one person. Doesn’t mean we should vote mindlessly, but it’s hard to get a good read on a lot of people. I personally feel like Quincy is a strong lynch candidate at the moment, but not many others seem to think so. I find Ewan to be a bit scummy as well, truth be told, but since I usually find him scummy I don’t feel that that’s a compelling enough reason to vote for him right now.
Lady K Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 11:06 PM, Dragonfire said: Gale has been reading the topic, Humphrey spotted that before I did but the others haven't, as far as I know. You posted at 10:10pm my time. I posted at 09.59pm my time. Did you take eleven minutes to write that post? Has Ewan been online since then? If so, then he's definitely lying low. Ewan hasn't been online since before voting yesterday. And I made a mistake on my time in previous post, Gale has been here a few times and hasn't posted once at all in almost 48hrs not 22 hrs.
CMP Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Good god. At least we haven't fallen into the trap of one person outing themselves and everyone just quietly voting for him/her. Ray was weird for a bit but he seems fairly proactive now. Perce has made some strange remarks as well, but I'm inclined to give the newbie the benefit of the doubt, for now. Delwyn really jumped onto stacking her vote immediately after Molly. On 12/12/2015 at 11:11 PM, Ranger of the Forest said: Yes, I know To be honest, the more I wrote about Quincy, the more guilty he seemed to me. I still don’t think Anthony is in the clear, mind you, but for now I feel Quincy is the better vote. And if I have to change votes again for us all to get a lynch, so be it. There’s no limit on how many times you can vote/unvote, so I don’t feel there’s anything wrong with me changing my opinion. Do you not find Quincy suspicious as well? This also doesn't strike a good chord with me. Changing your vote is fine, but changing your opinion for the sake of a lynch feels...off to me. I'm going to put forward a Vote: Delwyn Couch (Ranger of the Forest). On 12/12/2015 at 10:43 PM, def said: I really want to emphasise the scumminess of Ewan. He jumped on Delwyn's boneheaded accusation of me, whereupon I jumped on him and he went silent. I noticed the (very) brief back and forth between you and Ewan but I don't see him having mentioned Delwyn anywhere, are you thinking of someone else who did that bit?
def Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 11:26 PM, CallMePie said: I noticed the (very) brief back and forth between you and Ewan but I don't see him having mentioned Delwyn anywhere, are you thinking of someone else who did that bit? Yeah, whoever jluck is.
Piratedave84 Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Hey I'm here. Sorry I got sidetracked by RL. An early observation is that the vote is crazy spread out; not a typical day one voting-wise. I think we need to organize our thoughts a bit better to reach a lynch today. I read a couple of things that seemed odd but I really need to thoroughly read the thread before casting a vote. I'll be back later with some thoughts.
fhomess Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 The thing I don't quite get about Gale stopping by to check in and the leaving without commenting is what he would have to gain from avoiding the discussion at this point. So far, the only think he's done is not show up. All he would have to do is make a comment and that would be that. Perce's vote struck me as rather pointless, and I didn't like the way that it was couched in trying to avoid suspicion. He comments specifically that he doesn't want to be accused of bandwagoning. I still haven't seen a decent justification for voting Doctor Wynn. Ray and Mike also strike me as odd. Ray's reasons and justifications for voting Mike seem a little weak, and a lot of what else he's saying strike me as trying to appear helpful. I suppose it's typical day 1 conversation starter that could be genuine. Mike was quite eager to get people talking about Perce's soft claim but is otherwise pretty much ignoring it. His behavior seems more inclined to push others. For now, I will Vote: Mike Johsnon (mediumsnowman) ... ah, I see Gale has now added his comments.
Lady K Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I still feel Anthony is our best bet for today. He hasn't really contributed anything to getting any conversations going and his vote on Elijah was not really based on anything beyond wanting a lynch for a title change. His response to Perce's voting of Dr. Whynn is really what he was doing in his vote for Elijah. On 12/12/2015 at 4:44 AM, jluck said: If you think I'm the best candidate and you have reasons to vote for me, do it. If you have reasons for your voting for doctor Wynn, share them. I just want you to contribute to the conversation in a useful manner. Day 1 is hard enough to get right without mindless voting. Day 1 is difficult without mindless voting. Anthony do you have any other suspicions or reasons for keeping your vote on Elijah? Or anyone else for that matter?
def Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 On 12/13/2015 at 12:55 AM, Lady K said: I still feel Anthony is our best bet for today. He hasn't really contributed anything to getting any conversations going and his vote on Elijah was not really based on anything beyond wanting a lynch for a title change. His response to Perce's voting of Dr. Whynn is really what he was doing in his vote for Elijah. The main reason I wouldn't vote for him is that scum have a hard time jumping out front day one. As inane as his vote is, it is the kind of behaviour that draws attention an possible investigation, leading me to think he isn't scum.
mediumsnowman Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 On 12/13/2015 at 12:20 AM, fhomess said: Mike was quite eager to get people talking about Perce's soft claim but is otherwise pretty much ignoring it. His behavior seems more inclined to push others. For now, I will Vote: Mike Johnson (mediumsnowman) I felt his soft-claim was weird but not weird enough to vote for him. Surely I wasn't the only one that found that odd? So far everyone seems rather quiet, and the votes rather spread out, so I'd rather push people to conversation then sit back and twiddle my thumbs.
jluck Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 12:35 AM, jluck said: Yep, that's why I'm following through on all my talk to show I was most definitely not joking and voting for the one confirmed scum-o. vote: Elijah (def) #jluck'sb***ch Well, I really thought I had a convincing argument on Elijah, namely that he'd change his title if lynched. But apparently that's not good enough for the rest of you! So I'm going to set that aside...for now... Here's what I've been watching. On 12/12/2015 at 3:54 AM, Tachyon said: Oh Geez...........It's really hard to pick Day 1 without being accused of bandwagoning. Without any conclusive evidence, there's no reason for me to cast a vote on the highest voted candidate, Anthony although this move could possibly lead me to easily be accused of doing something suspicious and will make me liable for a lynch in the coming days. As I seem to be forced to vote I'll Vote:Doctor Wynn (Tariq j) for the sake of voting. Oh Geez....... I immediately called him on his post with the next post when I said: On 12/12/2015 at 3:57 AM, jluck said: (snip) So you only voted because you had to, you voted without any justification of the vote, and you avoided an early bandwagon. Noted. Instead of responding with his reasoning for his vote he threatened me instead and then instantly soft claimed vanilla, as many others have noted. On 12/12/2015 at 4:09 AM, Tachyon said: Then do you want me to continue the bandwagon on you ? It doesn't bother me in the slightest on whether you die or not. If your'e scum that's bonus. If your not, then I treat it as a day 1 mislynch. Even if I get lynched today, the town doesn't lose anyone important. I've not seem him return since this point so maybe he has more to add...? I'd be willing to listen, but I'm also willing to vote: unvote:Elijah (def) vote: perce triggs (Tachyon) On 12/12/2015 at 2:15 AM, mediumsnowman said: *singsong* Bandwagon... Third on the wagon is a nice spot for the scum to hide. Coupled with your suspicious silence, I'm comfortable enough to Vote: Delwyn Couch (Ranger of the Forest) This vote is subject to change, especially if we need a lynch by the end of today. Megablocks, I just realized I was the third person on the perce triggs wagon! I'm done for!
Tamamono Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I'm not really liking the Perce wagon. I feel like he's just nooby. I don't think Mike's behavior in relation to Perce is a scumtell either, necessarily. On 12/12/2015 at 11:26 PM, CallMePie said: This also doesn't strike a good chord with me. Changing your vote is fine, but changing your opinion for the sake of a lynch feels...off to me. I'm going to put forward a Vote: Delwyn Couch (Ranger of the Forest). I agree. Delywn's behavior is pretty weird. I'd take her as a second vote. On 12/13/2015 at 12:55 AM, Lady K said: I still feel Anthony is our best bet for today. He hasn't really contributed anything to getting any conversations going and his vote on Elijah was not really based on anything beyond wanting a lynch for a title change. His response to Perce's voting of Dr. Whynn is really what he was doing in his vote for Elijah. I don't feel like this is legitimate reasoning - how many people have actually contributed? Elijah's vote was wrong, I think, but I'm pretty sure he had some reasoning. I don't think you're on this trail of your own accord and I stand by my vote for now.
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