legosamsonite Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 This topic is where we Indy fans can dream about what could have been. The line had great potential, but it ended too early. So what sets do you think should have been made?
legosamsonite Posted September 13, 2015 Author Posted September 13, 2015 Here's my idea's for raiders of the lost ark Raiders: New temple escape- 80$ With indy Belloq- jungle Satipo Barranca Hovitos Jock's plane- 25$ Indy Jock Reggie Hovitos ×2 Cario market duel- 20$ Indy- shirt Marion Swordsman Bandit×2 Map room- 12$ Indy- digger Sallah German Well of the souls- 29$ Indy Sallah Marion Dietrich German Convoy chase- 59$ Indy Belloq Toth German× 5 Horse Truck Car Jeep Pirate transport- 80$ Indy- german Marion Katanga Pirate×3
Graham Gidman Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I doubt they'll get rebooted, honestly, as few themes even continue being produced after the first few waves (Star Wars being the long-running exception, of course). But, there are rumors they'll make more movies with Chris Pratt. If that happens, LEGO might get the license. Edited September 14, 2015 by Graham Gidman
Blondie-Wan Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 The rumors about Chris Pratt are just that - rumors, at least for now. That said, sooner or later there will be another Indiana Jones movie; Disney's not just going to ignore the property, after all. Whether it's a reboot or not, there will eventually be more Indy - and when it happens, LEGO will an obvious licensee candidate. They already have a close relationship with Disney in general and its new subsidiary Lucasfilm in particular, the latter predating even Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm, and they had great success with the Indy line before. There is every reason to assume they'll do more for the franchise, whenever it returns to screens with a new production. (Incidentally, Star Wars never got "rebooted" as a LEGO theme; it has run continuously since the theme began in 1999.)
Actor Builder Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I would love more sets from Indiana Jones. I owned all of the sets except the Temple of Doom. I regret not buying it now. I think we'd all love to see Petra's Al Khaznah, AKA "The Grail Temple". If LEGO made a set of that, it would most likely just be the interior with the traps. But they could make a large Creator set of Al Khazna. It wouldn't be quite Minifigure scale, but I think it could be pretty close.
Graham Gidman Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) (Incidentally, Star Wars never got "rebooted" as a LEGO theme; it has run continuously since the theme began in 1999.) Yes. My point was that few themes make it any longer than a one or two waves. Edited September 14, 2015 by Graham Gidman
SoupOrFishOil Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Cheekbones. There would be cheekbones everywhere.
Boettner Builds Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I've been to Petra! Amazing!!!! But as far as Indy sets go, I would buy several of each, no doubt about it!
Karalora Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I definitely agree that the Raiders sets exhibited a nigh-unforgivable absence of Toht. With the new "ghost tail" piece subbing in for minifig legs, we could get a really rad set of the Ark being opened and the spirits flying out to terrorize the Nazis--sorry, "Germans"--sorry, enemy soldiers. How about a Crusade set analogous to the Temple of Doom, with a gauntlet of booby traps, and then the Grail chamber at the end? Minifigs: Indy, Elsa, Donovan, Grail Knight. Bonus if Donovan's face has a skull print on the opposite side! The spike room from Temple is reasonably iconic, and could be made to really "work" with Technic gears and such. Especially if they could work out a mechanism for the same cranking action to both lower and raise the ceiling depending on the position of the switch. And, because I am first and foremost a Disneyland nerd, I want a set that honors the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland. Even if it's just the ride vehicle (basically a twelve-seat Jeep) and maybe one or two props. Edited September 14, 2015 by Karalora
Blondie-Wan Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yes. My point was that few themes make it any longer than a one or two waves. Ah, gotcha. Well, indeed Indy had one of the better runs of all the licensed themes built around the release of a single movie years after the originals - sixteen boxed retail sets (including a vendor exclusive) in four waves, plus a Brickmaster set, a couple rare convention exclusives, and several extended line items. I definitely agree that the Raiders sets exhibited a nigh-unforgivable absence of Toht. With the new "ghost tail" piece subbing in for minifig legs, we could get a really rad set of the Ark being opened and the spirits flying out to terrorize the Nazis--sorry, "Germans"--sorry, enemy soldiers. I think the omissions of Dr. Marcus Brody and Sallah Mohammed Faisel el-Kahir are even greater omissions, not least because both characters appeared not only in Raiders of the Lost Ark but Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade as well (granted, Marcus' scenes in Raiders were limited to non-action scenes, but still...). But yes, I'd really like to have gotten an official Toht in the line, and Dietrich, as well as a René Belloq aside from him in his jungle khakis. Ark ghosts would be great, but at least those can probably be adequately represented with existing LEGO ghosts and wraiths (it's also possible TLG wouldn't want to make a set of that particular scene). How about a Crusade set analogous to the Temple of Doom, with a gauntlet of booby traps, and then the Grail chamber at the end? Minifigs: Indy, Elsa, Donovan, Grail Knight. Bonus if Donovan's face has a skull print on the opposite side! That would be great. Of course, for the larger, D2C-style set some envision for the temple, it would also have to give us Marcus and Sallah (and another Henry Sr., and perhaps some Hatay and German soldiers). It so happens there's actually a LEGO Ideas project of that very thing. It's been around nearly a year and is set to expire fifteen days, but it's also just 104 votes away from a thousand right now, and if it gets those votes it'll earn a six-month extension. Even if it's unlikely to ever get approved, it can help draw attention to the theme... The spike room from Temple is reasonably iconic, and could be made to really "work" with Technic gears and such. Especially if they could work out a mechanism for the same cranking action to both lower and raise the ceiling depending on the position of the switch. That's another I've thought about. I'll probably MOC it sometime, but it would be nice to have an official minifigure of Willie Scott in her pajamas. And, because I am first and foremost a Disneyland nerd, I want a set that honors the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland. Even if it's just the ride vehicle (basically a twelve-seat Jeep) and maybe one or two props. That's actually been a LEGO Ideas project as well, though it never got very far. Then again, I think with decent promotion / campaigning, one could at least gamer more votes for a project of it than that one did (it would surely also help if it were in minifigure scale rather than miniland...). Speaking for myself, and fully acknowledging how unlikely it is to ever happen, I'd also dearly love sets based on the TV series The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles / The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones. The show was fantastic - IMO even better than most of the movies, which I love and adore - and added immeasurably to the Indy body of lore. There were plenty of noteworthy scenes that would actually make great LEGO sets, too.
Graham Gidman Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Ah, gotcha. Well, indeed Indy had one of the better runs of all the licensed themes built around the release of a single movie years after the originals - sixteen boxed retail sets (including a vendor exclusive) in four waves, plus a Brickmaster set, a couple rare convention exclusives, and several extended line items. Yeah, they did pretty well. Sadly, I had no involvement in the online community at that time and never bought any.
Tariq j Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah, Whilst Lego handled the line well, it felt very incomplete, we got about 50% of what we could have got. I think if Lego added some UCS sets to the line it would certainly be excellent.
Dorayaki Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 While the series still have potential, I think only a new film can once again reactivate this license. Unless, like others said, a reboot series try to repacture the classic scenes so that new LEGO sets would do them. Offtopic and spoiler: yes, the 4th film shows that Indy the titular character would never be given to another new hero. So not sure if a brand new story can be written just like SW7 having the old Han Solo.
Blondie-Wan Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Incidentally, there's a new behind-the-scenes video for LEGO Elves that shows a glimpse of the character design, video production, etc. for that theme, and as it happens, a brick-built sculpture of an Indiana Jones minifigure is present on the table (!) at one of the design / development / production / whatever meetings. LEGO Indy can first be seen at the 0:20 mark, then (blurry, in the background) at 0:40, and again some more at least once. I'm guessing he's just there because one of the designers felt like bringing him along, but still. It's nice to see Indy is still remembered within LEGO's hallowed halls... Thanks to Aanchir for pointing out the video over in the Elves 2015 thread in the Action and Adventure (!) forum.
Only Sinner Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 How about a zepplin escape set with that neat biplane and a huge airship?
Actor Builder Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Only Sinner, that would be awesome, and I wish they would, but I see a few problems. I) They already released a set with the biplane (One of my favorite Indy sets, actually). II) That zeppelin was HUGE. It could easily be a 5000+ piece set, which I don't see happening III) Due to the controversy of whether or not it was The Hindenburg (I think it wasn't.) and the resemblance of it, if it's not, I can't see LEGO making it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe (And common business sense dictates) that they try not to make replicas of tragic portions of history. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a huge zeppelin set, but being a pessimist, I decided to name some flaws in the idea. I'll dream for it along with you though! My wishlist is really just accurate minifigures, since I can MOC the vehicles and locations to my liking. I really want: I) Sallah- I love Sallah, so a few versions would be great. One from Raiders, and one from The Last Crusade, preferably with a new fez/hair combo. II) Accurate Henry Jones Sr.- I love the original fig. The face is extremely accurate, and the torso is good. I just want a better hat than the pith helmet. III) Major Toht- Gotta have him! I don't know how the mark on the hand could be handled though. LEGO probably wouldn't include it. IV) Belloq- The official fig was kind of lame, in my opinion. I would love to see a version of him in the white hat, and a version in robes. V) Brody VI) "Bad Guys" with arm printing...Maybe just a red circle or smudge, representing a certain offensive shape without actually representing it... There are so many others...
Blondie-Wan Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Only Sinner, that would be awesome, and I wish they would, but I see a few problems. I) They already released a set with the biplane (One of my favorite Indy sets, actually). II) That zeppelin was HUGE. It could easily be a 5000+ piece set, which I don't see happening III) Due to the controversy of whether or not it was The Hindenburg (I think it wasn't.) and the resemblance of it, if it's not, I can't see LEGO making it. Correct me if I'm wrong Well, since you specifically asked us to, I'll go ahead and correct you; you're wrong. The airship in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is not the Hindenburg. Among other things, the Hindenburg disaster took place more than a year before the movie did (except for the prologue, of course). The Zeppelin in the movie is designated simply D-138. That said, I think you're still otherwise right about TLG not doing it, at least in minifigure scale. Edited September 17, 2015 by Blondie-Wan
Jacob_9821 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Not many themes have returned from cancellation, although one comes to mind. That being, Bionicle. However I don't think that's an indicator if we will see more reboots of old(er) themes in the future. If there is a new movie, there is no doubt in my mind we'll get sets. If that that even happens to being with.
Blondie-Wan Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 There's actually a lot of precedent, though, even (especially?) with licensed themes. Harry Potter had a hiatus in new releases of about 2 1/2 or 3 years during the timeframe the movies were being released, getting a single set in 2007 and then returning with a whole bunch of stuff in 2010 / 2011. The Jurassic Park franchise first appeared in LEGO with Jurassic Park III in the LEGO Studios line in the early 2000s, and then reappeared with Jurassic World this year. Similarly, they did Spider-Man sets (originally as more Studios sets, then as their own theme) for the first couple Raimi / Maguire movies from 2002 to 2004, then brought back Spidey along with the rest of the Marvel Universe for the Super Heroes line that began in 2012 and is continuing into the foreseeable future. They've even visited and, years later, revisited various Classic Disney characters (Mickey Mouse & friends, Winnie the Pooh) more than once. They've also gone back to classic original LEGO themes a number of times, sometimes with new spins and such. Pharaoh's Quest is pretty much an extension of Adventurers. They've had multiple Space Police lines. And so on. I think there's an excellent chance LEGO will do more Indiana Jones sets (and Pirates of the Caribbean, and perhaps Toy Story) when those franchises' next big-screen installments come. No guarantee, but considering how extensive and agreeable TLG's partnerships with Disney in general and Lucasfilm in particular seem to be, it just looks very likely. I just hope that the classic Indy is continued a little more before the inevitable reboot (both in the franchise itself and in the LEGO theme).
bobabricks Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 I would love to see the zeppelin, the tank (unlikely as that's a no no for Lego) and the temple in Last Crusade. Also some more Temple of Doom stuff as I think Lego focused more on Raiders and the new movie when they did those sets.
DarkKnight7 Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Here's my idea's for raiders of the lost ark Raiders: New temple escape- 80$ With indy Belloq- jungle Satipo Barranca Hovitos Jock's plane- 25$ Indy Jock Reggie Hovitos ×2 Cario market duel- 20$ Indy- shirt Marion Swordsman Bandit×2 Map room- 12$ Indy- digger Sallah German Well of the souls- 29$ Indy Sallah Marion Dietrich German Convoy chase- 59$ Indy Belloq Toth German× 5 Horse Truck Car Jeep Pirate transport- 80$ Indy- german Marion Katanga Pirate×3 Great ideas, and theses sets would be great to have with the updated building techniques and fig designs of the Lego designers! Too bad we really can only dream about it, as I really don't see these coming to fruition, even with a reboot to the franchise (they would just focus on the new movie) I definitely agree that the Raiders sets exhibited a nigh-unforgivable absence of Toht. With the new "ghost tail" piece subbing in for minifig legs, we could get a really rad set of the Ark being opened and the spirits flying out to terrorize the Nazis--sorry, "Germans"--sorry, enemy soldiers. How about a Crusade set analogous to the Temple of Doom, with a gauntlet of booby traps, and then the Grail chamber at the end? Minifigs: Indy, Elsa, Donovan, Grail Knight. Bonus if Donovan's face has a skull print on the opposite side! The spike room from Temple is reasonably iconic, and could be made to really "work" with Technic gears and such. Especially if they could work out a mechanism for the same cranking action to both lower and raise the ceiling depending on the position of the switch. And, because I am first and foremost a Disneyland nerd, I want a set that honors the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland. Even if it's just the ride vehicle (basically a twelve-seat Jeep) and maybe one or two props. That Lego ideas set would be perfect, but as mentioned by someone else, it would probably have to come as two different sets.
Actor Builder Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Well, since you specifically asked us to, I'll go ahead and correct you; you're wrong. The airship in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is not the Hindenburg. Among other things, the Hindenburg disaster took place more than a year before the movie did (except for the prologue, of course). The Zeppelin in the movie is designated simply D-138. That said, I think you're still otherwise right about TLG not doing it, at least in minifigure scale. Actually, I specifically said that I think it was NOT the Hindenburg, but there is a common misconception that it is. So I did not specifically ask you to correct me, I specifically asked someone with a differing opinion to correct me if I was wrong. In any case, we are of the same mind that it was not the Hindenburg. I just hope the Dr. Who set comes with a new fez piece... I need better fezzes.
Pulp Detective Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) You think this line is incomplete??How about the Lord of the Rings which got a great first wave (bought every single set,even the Uruk Hai forge) and went downhill from the second wave which was terribly lacking.I still dream for a Barlog set.On topic now I would love more Indy sets,you can't imagine how happy and excited I was when I got my first set back in 2008. Edited September 22, 2015 by LOTR34
Blondie-Wan Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) You think this line is incomplete??How about the Lord of the Rings which got a great first wave (bought every single set,even the Uruk Hai forge) and went downhill from the second wave which was terribly lacking.I still dream for a Barlog set.On topic now I would love more Indy sets,you can't imagine how happy and excited I was when I got my first set back in 2008. There's stuff missing from The Lord of the Rings (and The Hobbit), but I'd argue there's at least as much missing from Indiana Jones. For one thing, the sets were based entirely on the four feature films, and the TV show (which amounts to roughly 80% of the entire screen production running time of the franchise) is entirely absent. Even going just by the four features, there are still many major characters and scenes missing. Of course there's also a bunch of stuff missing from the Middle-Earth movies, and I'd like more sets in both franchises. But at the same time, I do think we were lucky to get as much stuff as we did. I just wish I could have gotten more of the Middle-Earth stuff myself (but I'm glad it's in LEGO Dimensions, at least; I just hope I can get the game myself!). Edited September 23, 2015 by Blondie-Wan
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