Which Starwars Movie is the worst?

[Vader]

* the crappy adds on of the OT (weird that *vader* left that untouched :-P )

*yoda*

I decided to just rant about the PT as theres far much to rant about and i thought my first rant was long enough X-D

[yellost]

Another thing that I believe was missing in the PT is some sort of of general background consistency. It's almost like each film could be from an entirely different era... I mean, in the OT, the ships remain the same across the three film, so we can relate to them. They even become as important as the characters themselves. whereas in the PT, none makes it into the next film. Worse, one thing I liked a lot about episode II was the fact that the ships seemed to really evolve to the design from the PT, but then, in Episode III it's like they made a giant leap backward but in a completely new direction where we can't relate neither to the PT or the rest of the OT *wacko*

And then there are the bad guys from the PT... We don't know anything about them... They just seem to pop out... For Darth Maul it's ok, we understand he's been Palpatine's tool for quite a while, the same way we know Vader has been the bad guy for a long time before the events in epIV right from the first time he appears on screen. But Darth Maul dies before we can know more about him, which makes him a bit shallow in the end. And then we have Dooku that appears. Ok there's been a 10 year gap in between I and II but still, he isn't really fleshed out either... All the more, while we've never seen or heard of him, right after the assasination attempt at the beginning of epII, we have padme rushing in Palpatine's office shouting 'I suspect count Dooku!' but we still don't see any of him right untill half an hour before the end of the film where he seems to be there only to give an excuse to have a (great) fight with Yoda |-/

And finally, Grievous. He was indeed great looking, but I can't think of another more useless villain in any other film... I don't even know what he's doing here... I mean, he's the general of the separatist army. But in epII it's Dooku and he isn't dead yet, so why was he replaced by GG while still there? There's just no point for GG's very existence... (but he was a really great vilain in the cartoon, nothing you could compare to his film counterpart).

But it still remains a highly enjoyable saga. And the Clone Wars comics are just great as well. (and I'll try not to start on the New Jedi Order serie which was one of the best serie I've ever read... To be honest, I think I even prefer it to the 6 films :-$ )

[captaintau]

Another thing that I believe was missing in the PT is some sort of of general background consistency. It's almost like each film could be from an entirely different era... I mean, in the OT, the ships remain the same across the three film, so we can relate to them. They even become as important as the characters themselves. whereas in the PT, none makes it into the next film.

This was intentional. Remember that the PT takes place over a far wider time period than the OT and is during a time of great technological advancement. There is ship evolution in the OT, too. Such as the TIE Interceptor and the B-Wing.

[SuvieD]

Episode 3 ruined nearly all of SW for me. Seriously. The entire battle in Palpatines office was the final nail in the coffin so to speak and did nothing but prove that Lucas is a hack and an idiot. My mom could have made that movie better. Everything from the crappy fighting to the sissification of the "top jedi" or even the way he comes back to attack Windu is all crap. If that wasn't bad enough we then have to put up with Maniquin Skywalker try to convey turning to the dark side and it ends up a half second decision more cheesy than all the previous scene.

Qui and Maul redeemed the first movie and allow it to be, though tarnished by Jar Jar and the pointless podrace, a decent movie. Episode two ended up even more faulty but had some decent moments with Jango and the arean abattle was pretty sweet. The third movie was at best a very expensive B movie with cheesy dialogue, bad acting on top of that and spent way to much time on crap effects instead of moving the story along properly.

All in all though, Star Wars was much cooler when there was more mystery. The more crap they revealed and added with the EU just made it seem like every other lame scifi world and ruined much of what made the originals great.

Lucas should distribute the rights to someone with talent and then retire somewhere far away so as never to be seen again.

[Batbrick]

*vader* , you are my hero! :'-)

In that one giant, maniacal rant you just summed up the entire crappiness of the PT in onw whole!

It almost made me cry :-$ .........

Death of Lucas following the completion of a hopefully good Indy 4 ON! >:-(

Batbrick Away! >:-)

[Paradosis]

Though I had friends in high school who knew the SW stuff inside and out, I've always been a lot more into Trek than Star Wars. I guess if I had to pick one, though, it'd be Episode 2, since that's the one that I can remember the least about (ie. it was apparently forgetable material for me). The rest, while they had bits of wooden acting here or there, and some corny, silly parts (ewoks or jar jar, which is worse?), the movies still kept my attention for the most part.

[Vader]

*vader* , you are my hero! :'-)

In that one giant, maniacal rant you just summed up the entire crappiness of the PT in onw whole!

It almost made me cry :-$ .........

Batbrick Away! >:-)

Well ok then let

[Stauder]

Then we have those bloody ewoks! I'm sorry but what the hell was Lucas smoking when he decided to include these fluffy little bears, it was clearly done with the intention of shifting a shit load of toys centred around them. Not only do we have to see these bears attempting to be cute and funny but we also have to watch as they some how manage to take down all the stormies, again the stormies look crap and pointless.

Aye. I agree, he makes stormies look like a bunch of idiots, How the hell did he concour the galaxy then, if his "Finest" where beathen by a dammed teddybear???

Stauder

[Paradosis]

No instead they just disappear and the heroes get away, in fact they get nearly all the way to the falcon before they even see another stormie.

That's because they were chasing their stunt doubles! Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) (for those who don't get the joke, I'm referring to a scene from Spaceballs)

[Vader]

That's because they were chasing their stunt doubles! Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) (for those who don't get the joke, I'm referring to a scene from Spaceballs)

Very true, either that our they couldn't read the DS map X-D

Ahh spaceballs, how i wished they would of made more of those. :'-(

[xwingyoda]

G Vad, that is serious ranting here 8-

[Vader]

G Vad, that is serious ranting here 8-

[mutley777]

I don't think there are any bad star wars films. The problem is the first films were so good the newer ones would never measure up! There have been many good points made in all the posts that i agree with but alot that i don't. So here go a few that i wanted to repy to.

*vader* I think lucas wanted people to think padme died of a broken heart. She could not go on with out anakin. It's not a great reason but people have been known to just give up on life after the death of a partner.

In the death star garbage compactor had you ever thought the the storm troopers might have been the ones the started the thing. This would mean they thought that han and co died in the trash-compactor so no need to gard the exit! (the stormies did not know about c-3po and r2)

*yoda* The new scenes at the end of a new hope with the ties and x-wings are stunning, as is the falcon blasting out of mos eisley space port, and the speeder ride through mos eisley! The new scene with jabba in docking bay 94 is a good addition too.

[Scouty]

[C3-PO=voice]I heartfully agree, Sir mutley777[/C3-PO=Voice]

I just like the films, new and or old ( I actually have to see the old films though, as I don't have them, don't yell at me).

If you want more Star Wars criticsms...go here!

[Zarkan]

Stay away from the cute Yub Yubs !! Endor is a really green planets and it was normal to have some cool and funny locals !! I loved the difference between the very simple life of those creatures compared to the high tech civilisation of the Empire !! And that makes a great Endor Battle !! They also neede a lottle comic relief

Yes, finally someone who understands my view on the Ewoks! ;-) Great to see I'm not the only one who likes them and doesn't consider them as bad as Jarjar. Like they were to you, the ewoks actually were genuinely funny to me, and they also made sense: a tribal but fairly intelegent civilization on a mostly deserted planet. It's not like that's unrealistic or anything; hasn't anyone else heard of the aboriginees in Australia? They were there long before anyone else, so of course they are going to be different than the rest of the world. That doesn't mean they aren't good warriors or resourceful, though! ;-)

On the other hand, Jarjar was just "Peusa" and "How wude," and also known as the now necessary kiddie pleasing clumsy oaf that pre-adoslescents love. "Hahaha, he just tripped over something, Hahaha his foot's stuck in the droid!" :-|

I guess what I hate so much about episode 1 is how the acting was trying to be serious, but just ended up coming off as kiddy and silly. How is a race that calls energy balls "boobas" ( great use of language Lucas :-| ) and shakes their lips when they agree with something supposed to be serious anyway?

Even though Episode 1 is the worst, I still have problems with the other episodes as well:

Episode 2: When I was young, I somehow loved those puns and pointless gag scenes revolving around R2-D2 and C-3PO. No more. *n* "Oh look, his heads on a droid! And the droids on his body! Oh this is such a drag. I'm quite on top of myself!" And that line from obiwan about Padme was just so corny and in bad timing. "Oh look, we're about to die a gruesome death at the hands of bloodthirsty beasts! Where's Padme? Oh, I think she's on top of things." :-|

Despite that, I kinda liked the romance, although it WAS unrealistic in parts. And I happen to love Yoda's fighting: the best part of the movie to me still! *sweet*

Episode 3: Grevious's cough? Eh, don't really care, because he was still pretty cool. Episode 3 to me was the best of the prequels, because it was much more serious than 1 and 2. The Mustafar scene and the opening battle were the best Prequel scenes, and Padme's and Anikan's romance was much more realistic. Yes, she knows Anikan's a self centered Jerk! X-D Yoda fight was also awesome, and I happen to love the emperor in this movie. Really dark and... "insidious" :-P

Episode 4: The only real problem here was that in some parts it was a bit slow, and the lack of music in parts was a bit dissapointing. Everything else was great! ;-)

Episode 5: Perfect. *y* *y*

Episode 6: I've already gone on about the ewoks, and I really like everything else. I understand what Jinzo means about it being more silly than the first 2, but I still really enjoy it. ;-)

I think we all need to realize here that Starwars really isn't realistic at all, in terms of the laws of science or other stuff. What really matters is whether we enjoy the films or not, and stop trying to analyze every tiny problem. I dislike Episode 1 the most for one simple reason: I don't enjoy watching it. *n*

[5150 Lego]

Yes, finally someone who understands my view on the Ewoks! ;-) Great to see I'm not the only one who likes them and doesn't consider them as bad as Jarjar. Like they were to you, the ewoks actually were genuinely funny to me, and they also made sense: a tribal but fairly intelegent civilization on a mostly deserted planet. It's not like that's unrealistic or anything; hasn't anyone else heard of the aboriginees in Australia? They were there long before anyone else, so of course they are going to be different than the rest of the world. That doesn't mean they aren't good warriors or resourceful, though! ;-)

x3 on the EWOKS. They were great! One of the many reasons that the 6th was the most enjoyable for me.

I know i will probbly get castrated for saying this, but i acttually liked Jar Jar. I found him funny. Ive heard alot of people saying they wished Jar Jar killed off and are mad because he wasn't, but its not like he did anything in the 2nd or 3rd movie (was he even in the 3rd?).

Also, somthing i'm surprised no one has meantioned yet, but doesn't it suck, that the animation and speacail affects in the first 3 movies ( by first i mean Episode 4, 5 and 6) was far better than the last 3 (1,2 and 3) and with not even half the budjet? To be honest, i still feel the animation/speacail effects were better (espeacailly the ships) than most movies put out today. Same goes with Star Trek. The scale models looked far more real than anything computers could animate.

[xwingyoda]

I know i will probbly get castrated for saying this, but i acttually liked Jar Jar. I found him funny. Ive heard alot of people saying they wished Jar Jar killed off and are mad because he wasn't, but its not like he did anything in the 2nd or 3rd movie (was he even in the 3rd?).

Oh no, everyone is entiled to their opinion, tks God :-D

I don't like him, but I think gungans are pretty cool looking sea creatures fitting quit well the SW Universe. Sure he is suppose to be a comic relief but it was SO much and childish :-|

And yes Jar Jar was in ROTS at the end, during the silent march for Padme's funeral ;-)

@Grevious: I don't agree with your rant regarding the humourus phrases in Ep2. I think it stick pretty well with the fun dialogs of thre OT ;-)

*yoda*

[Vader]

Despite that, I kinda liked the romance, although it WAS unrealistic in parts. And I happen to love Yoda's fighting: the best part of the movie to me still! *sweet*

Oh man i can't agree with that part, the romance was just so painful to watch. There was so many corny lines, did anyone think what they said was romantic? I sure didn't.

As for the *yoda* battle, well i did enjoy that and it was the best part of the movie for me.

[Eothein]

Great topic.

Anyway onto the post. It's hard to pick which film was the worst but I will have a go anyway.

First of all I personally think Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith were the better of the six films, although I still skip the scenes with puppet Yoda in ESB and in Revenge I skip anything with Natalie Portman involved. "So this is how democracy dies, with rapturous applause?" That ranks as one of the worst lines committed to celluloid, delivered by one of the worst actresses that managed to take away any effect that the line was supposed to have.

Episode 1 to me still is a good film, while Jar Jar isn't exactly the coolest character in the SW Universe I still think it's a good character (racist accusations aside). Although having Anakin destroy the Droid Control Ship by accident was silly as was all the talk of Midichlorians.

Return of the Jedi was by no means terrible but it has its fair share of awful moments. Having the big reveal of Leia and Luke being twins was fairly pointless because all it did was make the final showdown between Luke and Vader that tad weaker as Vader said that if Luke dies it doesn

[Brick Miner]

The third movie was at best a very expensive B movie with cheesy dialogue, bad acting on top of that and spent way to much time on crap effects instead of moving the story along properly.

so true... i'd still be a SW fan today if i had never seen that movie. (thank goodness for me, SW LEGO are rather expensive !!!)

in contrast, episodes 2 and 5 were the best *y*

- BM