The_Fiery_Rooster Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 Both pictures are taken on different surfaces, with a good camera. How can the camera be an excuse, if you clearly have good quality pictures? Also, why take the pictures on different surfaces? To me, it's fake.
adotnamedstud Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 It's been a bit obvious about how fake they were. The masks could easily be LEGO too. But we're getting 60's Batman with that cowl. The blue Batman was odd. As the torso had the old abs and logo but another belt. Highly doubtful it's real though. If one is in the Batcycle, then why would he have wings? It doesn't make sense at all. I hate making the same argument although it's so blatantly obvious that these are fakes. C'mon.
derzy09 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 Where did you aquire these minifigures? And you never answered my previous question about your camera... previous pics taken in daytime ,camera is crap at night my phone is worse! im not going to list pic after pic just because some random person on the net asked lolfor every good pic it takes about 50 attempts so im not going to waste my time for the sake of your curiosity,I know they originated from a reliable source who has pre release figs every year.No point debating it any further really.If you have examples of print styles to list I can let you know which one is similar to the print on batman.
Sir Gareth Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) previous pics taken in daytime ,camera is crap at night my phone is worse! im not going to list pic after pic just because some random person on the net asked lol for every good pic it takes about 50 attempts so im not going to waste my time for the sake of your curiosity,I know they originated from a reliable source who has pre release figs every year.No point debating it any further really.If you have examples of print styles to list I can let you know which one is similar to the print on batman. And I'm not going to trust that these are real just because some random person on the internet says so Lol. Edited October 31, 2015 by Sir Gareth
derzy09 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I have been a silent observer of this topic for a while now but I can't not comment on these supposed real minifigures. I must say I completely agree with Sir Gareth these are quite clearly fake. Even for prelims these are far too poorly done and lego would not recolour a print from a theme discontinued years ago. Plus lego stamps on the wings do not in anyway prove they are official as they would not be hard to forge. Also not to be cynical but Derzy09 hardly appears a reliable source given his bizarre dodging of questions and inability to take more photos. Furthermore he became a member literally a few hours ago so unlike say Just2good, Sir Gareth, CM4Sci etc he is hardly reputable or trusted as a source. I have been a silent observer of this topic for a while now but I can't not comment on these supposed real minifigures. I must say I completely agree with Sir Gareth these are quite clearly fake. Even for prelims these are far too poorly done and lego would not recolour a print from a theme discontinued years ago. Plus lego stamps on the wings do not in anyway prove they are official as they would not be hard to forge. Also not to be cynical but Derzy09 hardly appears a reliable source given his bizarre dodging of questions and inability to take more photos. Furthermore he became a member literally a few hours ago so unlike say Just2good, Sir Gareth, CM4Sci etc he is hardly reputable or trusted as a source. I just singed up to share what info I had on these since everyone was linking to my listing and using my pics on multiple forums! Sheesh Been dealing with lego most of my life.....
Legocity2713 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) previous pics taken in daytime ,camera is crap at night my phone is worse! im not going to list pic after pic just because some random person on the net asked lol for every good pic it takes about 50 attempts so im not going to waste my time for the sake of your curiosity,I know they originated from a reliable source who has pre release figs every year.No point debating it any further really.If you have examples of print styles to list I can let you know which one is similar to the print on batman. I just singed up to share what info I had on these since everyone was linking to my listing and using my pics on multiple forums! Sheesh Been dealing with lego most of my life..... Defensive much? Edited October 31, 2015 by Legocity2713
Sir Gareth Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I just singed up to share what info I had on these since everyone was linking to my listing and using my pics on multiple forums! Sheesh Been dealing with lego most of my life..... You should have led off with that Lol. Link to your account and listing to support that claim?
Robianco Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 previous pics taken in daytime ,camera is crap at night my phone is worse! im not going to list pic after pic just because some random person on the net asked lol for every good pic it takes about 50 attempts so im not going to waste my time for the sake of your curiosity,I know they originated from a reliable source who has pre release figs every year.No point debating it any further really.If you have examples of print styles to list I can let you know which one is similar to the print on batman. That's just the thing for me though. The Joker Nurse was apparently from a source that gets pre release figures too... We've had around 17 Batman variants and they've never recoloured an existing design. The Juniors Batcave used an existing torso but changed from dark to light blue but there was no recolouring anywhere just a change of accent colour. For a black and red variant I'd expect a new design, maybe similar to the game design rather than just recolouring for the first time. Some people may be getting things that they genuinely believe are legit and from a source that has historically been reliable but there's nothing about the things I've seen that ring true.
8BrickMario Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 We're not criticizing you, we're criticizing the figures you've posted, which seem unprofessional when examined through LEGO's current standards. The blue Batman has outdated printing and no chin coverage, and the red one is a simple recolored print.
derzy09 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) . Edited November 1, 2015 by derzy09
Amazing Bricks Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) That dark blue one has a new belt print and the bat symbol looks different. I think the dark blue one is real and the red and black one is fake. Looking at the wings, the black and red wings looks like it got painted over the dark blue wings, making the red and black fake. If you guys remember, I posted a dark blue cowl picture on eBay like a month ago. That dark blue one must be real. Edited October 31, 2015 by amazingbricks
psqidexslizer248 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) That dark blue one has a new belt print and the bat symbol looks different. I think the dark blue one is real and the red and black one is fake. Looking at the wings, the black and red wings looks like it got painted over the dark blue wings, making the red and black fake. If you guys remember, I posted a dark blue cowl picture on eBay like a month ago. That dark blue one must be real. Hate to break it you, but... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mH%2BlM7cmL.jpg Edit: Hang on, the belt is different. Edited October 31, 2015 by psqidexslizer248
Amazing Bricks Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Wow, I have that Batman minifigure and didn't notice that. That dark blue cowl will be used for Adam west Batman either way. But that belt still is different. Edited October 31, 2015 by amazingbricks
Nsk97 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I don't think any of us here actually even slightly believe these are real and even if we do for a moment take them to be real where are they supposed to fit in with the upcoming sets? Neither fit the 60s batcave or the BvS sets leaving only the chase set which, given we already know batman will have a motorcycle, also does not appear to fit as why would Batman also need the wings? I don't believe we have ever gotten a winged superhero minifigure with their own vehicle before.
legosamsonite Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I don't believe we have ever gotten a winged superhero minifigure with their own vehicle before. I guess without wings, spiderman doesn't count? ;)
psqidexslizer248 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I don't think any of us here actually even slightly believe these are real and even if we do for a moment take them to be real where are they supposed to fit in with the upcoming sets? Neither fit the 60s batcave or the BvS sets leaving only the chase set which, given we already know batman will have a motorcycle, also does not appear to fit as why would Batman also need the wings? I don't believe we have ever gotten a winged superhero minifigure with their own vehicle before. I'm still not convinced (though the dark blue one does have me wondering), but if they are real they could be in currently unannounced summer sets.
Nsk97 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I'm still not convinced (though the dark blue one does have me wondering), but if they are real they could be in currently unannounced summer sets. Possibly, but would we really be likely to see two more batman sets, that are both unknown to all of our sources, both with a different winged batman, both created from recoloured torsos from discontinued versions of batman?
Sir Gareth Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 original article on batman http://minifigpriceguide.com/wordpress/new-2016-batman-figure-with-black-and-red-wings/ we will see in 2016 Do the Batmen have back printing?
Nsk97 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) 1446335517[/url]' post='2371769']I guess without wings, spiderman doesn't count? ;) Haha no I would say he does not count XD Do the Batmen have back printing? Good catch, if you look on that article at the image of lots of the red and black batman he does not have any back printing. A clear indication it is fake. Edited October 31, 2015 by Nsk97
derzy09 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Do the Batmen have back printing? no back printing it's plain
Nsk97 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 no back printing it's plain If you readily admit to the lack of backprinting then, not to sound harsh, but why do you believe the figure is the real deal so to speak? I mean every real batman figure in the superheroes line has had back printing it would be highly odd for lego to skip this one? And at first I thought this may be due to it being possibly a prelim but given how many of the minifig we have seen it seems unlikely that lego would produce such a large volume of prelims leading me to believe that this is most definitely fake. Just to reiterate this isn't a personal attack on you or anything Derzy I just genuinely want to get to the bottom of why these rumoured minifigures are being pushed and seen so much and why people so readily believe them to be real.
vstat05 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if they reworked older prints into new designs (such as the mummy minifigures in Pharaoh's Quest and Scooby Doo), but the thing is these designs are just recolors, are using probably the most outdated muscle template, and the torso reused for the figure meant to be for Batman Beyond doesn't even work, in fact none of the Batman torsos released so far can be passed off for a Batman Beyond figure, which also requires a solid red set of wings and a face print on a BLACK head. The dark blue one might have been believable if it weren't for that muscle template. For all we know these could be customs, since there are people out there who know how to design and pad print custom minifigures. The wings seem easy to create with the right plastic. And this theme is said to be evergreen, so what's with the laziness?
Falconfan1414 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Hang on a second guys no one said this was the final version. The second one might not be real not because i think it looks fake but because what set would it be in? The first one though I mean a lot of people said that this version might be coming in a set the Gotham chase one so let's pass judgment when the set comes out
Nsk97 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Hang on a second guys no one said this was the final version. The second one might not be real not because i think it looks fake but because what set would it be in? The first one though I mean a lot of people said that this version might be coming in a set the Gotham chase one so let's pass judgment when the set comes out If it isn't the final version though why produced so many copies?
Robianco Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) The thing is we've seen a photo of a bag containing 50+ of these figures... If someone has taken this many then there should be enough of them at the factory that these won't be missed... So why print that many up of a fig just as a prelim test? The lack of back print also doesn't make sense for something that's been printed to this quantity. Both customisers and bootleggers have printed the Beyond design perfectly so why would Lego dig out 8yr old artwork to print up? Surely the design team would be asking why before anyone else. The wings have no bleed to the artwork which is also a schoolboy error... The design team wouldn't make that mistake on a print run whether prelim or not... They also wouldn't put keylines around the edge knowing the cutting form needs a bleed tolerance to cover any slight movement as it runs through the press. These also look like they've been cut by hand hence the very sharp points to the wings. The copyright text is also way off centre on those blue wings which is a poor mistake to make. If these do turn out to be even close to the final thing then it represents the laziest and poorest design choices Lego has made in the entire theme. Every character to date has had a new design when required however slight so I just don't see why their flagship character, and he is whether people like it or not, would even be considered for something like this. Edited November 1, 2015 by Robianco
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