Governor Mister Phes Posted April 27, 2005 Author Governor Posted April 27, 2005 I'd get in trouble if I wrote something like that! But that is the best explaination I've heard so far. Quote
Darth_Ewok Posted April 27, 2005 Posted April 27, 2005 Each LEGO minifig has a soul, that has to be it yes, but that means that we have to give LIFE to them. allow them to step into the world to become cannon fodder, pirates, innocent civilians, and whatnot! not just letting their souls ROT and be WASTED! we should give these poor figs LIFE! *picks up fig from recently purchased set* ITS ALIVE! :-D ;) Quote
The Middleman Posted April 28, 2005 Posted April 28, 2005 If they released a magnifig set with 1 clone trooper, 1 BARC trooper, and 1 special clone trooper, they'd sell so well, and I doubt Hasbro will whine to Lucasfilm about MAGNETS. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted April 28, 2005 Author Governor Posted April 28, 2005 What's a magnifig? Quote
The Middleman Posted April 28, 2005 Posted April 28, 2005 My personally coined turn for magnetic figure. Distinguished from 'magnafig', a really big figure. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted April 28, 2005 Author Governor Posted April 28, 2005 Do you got any pictures of them? Quote
eDeevo Posted April 28, 2005 Posted April 28, 2005 Each LEGO minifig has a soul, that has to be it yes, but that means that we have to give LIFE to them. allow them to step into the world to become cannon fodder, pirates, innocent civilians, and whatnot! not just letting their souls ROT and be WASTED! we should give these poor figs LIFE! *picks up fig from recently purchased set* ITS ALIVE! :-D ;) Yes, it is true, we must release them from their prisons & give them LIFE!... which is why I cannot bear to leave any sets I have MIB... Life is Good. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted April 28, 2005 Author Governor Posted April 28, 2005 Are LEGO skeletons the remains of dead Mini-figures or something else? Quote
Darth_Ewok Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 They are a form of lego life created by evil wizards to destroy people! :oo but other then that they're pretty cool |-D Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 9, 2005 Author Governor Posted June 9, 2005 LEGO wasn't stingy with their mini-figures in their Castle Chess set! Besides that Town S&H exclusive this chess set would have the most mini-figures of any set, wouldn't it? Quote
Mr. Lego-builder Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 Currently Available Sets? Yes. However, take a look at this: This "set" of 30 Clone Troopers was presented to participants in a "Clone Building Contest." I believe this was a pretty long time ago. The extra box sets were once sold on Amazon.com. However, the sets sold out extremly quickly. (Guess why. :|) Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 9, 2005 Author Governor Posted June 9, 2005 And from this didn't it occur to anyone in LEGO that they probably could of mass produced sets like this and made lots of $$ from them? Quote
Mr. Lego-builder Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 Right you are, Mr. Phes. However, the freaks at Hasbro doesn't allow this kind of production. If TLC does it again, Hasbro might get into a big affair with LEGO and Lucas-Films Productions. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 9, 2005 Author Governor Posted June 9, 2005 And this is why I disapprove of licencing! It interfers with things. However, if I saw a 30 mini-figure set of Imperial Guards from the Pirate theme I'd snap that up right away, and I'm confident many other people would too. Check out the This auction is insane! thread for proof! Ok, that example is extreme. But those Imperial Guards do fetch a very good price on eBay almost all the time. Even if the auction is poorly listed, many bidders manage to somehow find them. I find it very annoying, since I want to win! But the silly MegaBloks bid the price right out of my range. :( Quote
Mr. Lego-builder Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 But then again, without licencing, there would be no Star Wars products whatsoever. I know alot of people who would disapprove (excluding me). Quote
eDeevo Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Actually, the Clone Box came with booklets, certificates, instructions on how to set up & 'build the clones' Event (amongst other events as well), and pieces to make a total of 150 Clone Troopers... How do I know? I was lucky enough to score one of them :-D : Just to clarify that for those who did not know... it was an event put together by many Wal-Mart stores within the USA (I don't know of anywhere else) before the release of Episode II in the theaters... Life is Good. Quote
Mr. Lego-builder Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 WOW! 150 Clones! I thought it should have been a bigger number than I said. ;) Quote
eDeevo Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Yes, 150 Clones... and these suckers were never sold at retail, only on the secondary market... mainly because there was no protocol as to what to do with the things after the event... which is why I lucked out :-D Life is Good. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 10, 2005 Author Governor Posted June 10, 2005 150 mini-figures in one box! Now that's more like it. But how much did one of these sets cost? Quote
eDeevo Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 and these suckers were never sold at retail, only on the secondary market... Did you read the post right above yours phes? Anyway, I saw them a few times on eBay, and they often went for around $400-600... depending upon how many Clones they had left... Life is Good. Quote
SuvieD Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Lego minifigures are valued at about $0.80-1 per figure (this is what Lego charges as PAB). This is only the legs, torso w/head and a headgear item. If you look at it that way 150 troops plus a pile of booklets would cost about $160-175. Really though the focus of this thread I have to agree with. Bottom line people what more minifigs. Everyone from children to the old fart Lego collectors want more figures. I think that Lego would only do itself a favor by doubling the number of figs per set and raising the price $1-1.50 per figure (as they will have to add extra accessories also). This way a $20 set with 3 figs would become a $25 set with six figs. The small $9 sets with two figs would be a $12 set with four. Castles would become $90-$110 sets with 10 figs to $100-$120 with 20. This is what people want. It would change how much people buy. Bottom line, this is the most cost effective way for Lego to increase set cost and get people to buy more Lego than they do now. Megabloks started doing this but they are getting more and more stingy with figs. A $100 dragon castle used to come with 20+ figs. Now, a new dragon castle for $100 will only have 8 or 9. They got children hooked and now they can cheapen up. Lego did this in the 90s. They <insert that tiresome argument> everything and lowered fig count to lower costs. This in my opinion is the very thing that lowered sales. It doesn't matter if you can make something for less when you are selling less of it anyway. This topic really is a can of worms for most people. I think seeing as how Admiral Giddens has joined our boards, perhaps we can discuss the issues that matter most to us and ask him to bring it to the next ambassador meeting on behalf of Eurobricks. Can we come to an agreement on issues like these? I will start a new thread for this. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 10, 2005 Author Governor Posted June 10, 2005 Say the price per mini-figure was $1.50 - thats $15.00 for 10 (ok maybe that's not realistic but...). I know 10 Imperial Guard mini-figures on average would sell for at least double that on eBay. Quote
snefroe Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Lego minifigures are valued at about $0.80-1 per figure (this is what Lego charges as PAB). This is only the legs, torso w/head and a headgear item. If you look at it that way 150 troops plus a pile of booklets would cost about $160-175.Really though the focus of this thread I have to agree with. Bottom line people what more minifigs. Everyone from children to the old fart Lego collectors want more figures. I think that Lego would only do itself a favor by doubling the number of figs per set and raising the price $1-1.50 per figure (as they will have to add extra accessories also). This way a $20 set with 3 figs would become a $25 set with six figs. The small $9 sets with two figs would be a $12 set with four. Castles would become $90-$110 sets with 10 figs to $100-$120 with 20. This is what people want. It would change how much people buy. Bottom line, this is the most cost effective way for Lego to increase set cost and get people to buy more Lego than they do now. Megabloks started doing this but they are getting more and more stingy with figs. A $100 dragon castle used to come with 20+ figs. Now, a new dragon castle for $100 will only have 8 or 9. They got children hooked and now they can cheapen up. Lego did this in the 90s. They <insert that tiresome argument> everything and lowered fig count to lower costs. This in my opinion is the very thing that lowered sales. It doesn't matter if you can make something for less when you are selling less of it anyway. This topic really is a can of worms for most people. I think seeing as how Admiral Giddens has joined our boards, perhaps we can discuss the issues that matter most to us and ask him to bring it to the next ambassador meeting on behalf of Eurobricks. Can we come to an agreement on issues like these? I will start a new thread for this. i'm really not sure about all of this. 1) you don't know the real costs of minifigs, you don't know costs for every part of a minifig. massproduction red legs are a lot cheaper than the legs of the Alpha team, this issue with the torso even is a lot more complicated because there are a lot more different torsos... this is basically economies of scale... the more you produce, the lower the cost per item... and don't forget, COST is not the same as PRICE. for all we know, tlc might produce minifigs for 5$ per item, but set a price at 1$. she just balances costs and price with other parts of the set... 2) what you bought was probably bulk, left overs, stuff tlc wants to get rid off... obviously, you get a reduced price, that happened to me in Kingston, a price, btw, of 1 pound per minifig 3) the production costs of minifigs are very high: production runs are limited: OB's head will only appear in sw series, probably only for this year and the next; you need to spend lots of time on design (very expensive!!!); these parts are the most detailed parts in tlc's inventory, with probably quite a few pieces with flaws, like only one eyebrow on the head, missprints,... also lots of different colors,... they're also quite sophisticated, with turning arms and moving legs... 4) minifig parts are fairly small (hands, headgear,...) not easy to produce... 5) price of legosets is based on two things: production costs and weight of the set, including the minifigs, which are quite heavy... honestly, i have no idea whatsoever, how high/lowthe financial share of minifigs in the price is, but the fact that tlc doesn't produce minifig sets anymore clearly indicates they're waaaaaay too expensive... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 10, 2005 Author Governor Posted June 10, 2005 They're not waaaaaaaaay to expensive. Like most things these days, LEGO is too useless to manage and market them properly. If they hadn't become so incompetent they probably could find away to make it viable to produce bulk mini-figure sets. And that's my uneducation over presumptuous comment for today! Quote
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