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Okay I am building a narrow gauge Moc/scene/diorama, of a Depot....

Here is the progress so far.

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I hope the dark red mixed in gives it a better look then flat red. I do plan to make some flatcars once I order some wheels from BL. What else.... Ah I was thinking about adding a second floor with a computer room.

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Honestly, I don’t see enough to render a worthwhile opinion. Also, specific questions would help elicit more responses!

After much studying of the pictures, I finally figured out that we are looking at the transfer crane. I guess my question would be why? Is this a freight depot or a passenger depot? It might be a cool play feature for a “City” type set but it’s not a usual feature with real depots (if that is your goal).

And I vote yes to gravel! Adds lots of realism to your tracks especially if your just doing a small diorama.

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I know its pretty early to show but I was wondering how I could make this brickfair ready.... is there any special things I need to do to have this with all the other mocs...

As you can tell I know very little, so I have a plethora of questions....

As you can hopefully tell by the red lines that there is going to be a normal rail line above it.

the depot will have a crane on rails and a road running by it as you can see.

I cannot decide if there should be gravel or not... what do you think guys?

I'm glad the moc in general is shaping up nicely so that I don't feel bad saying this first post was just about the worst thing I've ever seen.

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I'm glad the moc in general is shaping up nicely so that I don't feel bad saying this first post was just about the worst thing I've ever seen.

Yeah.... I'm not sure what was going on :grin: I'm going to try and fix it I was a tad manic then... lemme go and fix it....

Anyways besides that. I was thinking about adding a water tower I think it would help round it out.

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Yeah.... I'm not sure what was going on :grin: I'm going to try and fix it I was a tad manic then... lemme go and fix it....

Anyways besides that. I was thinking about adding a water tower I think it would help round it out.

I agree with you, a water or coaling tower (maybe both next to each other) would be nice additions. I also think the depot as a whole looks great, especially with the dark red splotches against the regular red, with the dark green windows. You seem to be really good at color blocking, (such as red and dark red, with grays) which is a skill I (really) need to improve on.

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I agree with you, a water or coaling tower (maybe both next to each other) would be nice additions. I also think the depot as a whole looks great, especially with the dark red splotches against the regular red, with the dark green windows. You seem to be really good at color blocking, (such as red and dark red, with grays) which is a skill I (really) need to improve on.

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I would love to make it all darkred with a bit of brown mixed in but I do not have the funds for that at the moment, I will add a coaling tower and water tower down the line ,I'm thinking I should keep a red and black stripe on them. I took art for so many years that color is kind of a second hand nature, Maybe I'll try and make a brick color wheel guide or something to help anyone who needs it.

I am going to add gravel but I want to keep the height of the track is it is, so I'm probably going to order more brown plates and get my friend to have an eye on the PAB up in Patomic mills for grey and black studs.

What do all of you think about adding a second floor, albeit a lot small then the bottom room for an office/control room. Before I forget I am going to make the roof the dark grey plates... Maybe I could hide a bat in the rafters like the bell tower of the fire brigade

(I have a laptop now YAY no more mobile device!)

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I like this little set, but I don't really understand the transfer crane: its current position cannot load or unload anything from a train.

Either rotate it 90 degrees so that it's in perpendicular to the tracks inside the shed, or move it sideways so that it runs above at least one track.

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I like this little set, but I don't really understand the transfer crane: its current position cannot load or unload anything from a train.

Either rotate it 90 degrees so that it's in perpendicular to the tracks inside the shed, or move it sideways so that it runs above at least one track.

It's more for look than anything else to set up a scene. I really did want to have it fit the whole interior but it would make the frame to weak and fall in on the poor workers D:

If I would make it run above the trains I would make a perpendicular rail for the crane and edit whats it's on to be able to run across it... I'll have to think about that. Like a sideways T shape.

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If it is going to be train engine maintenance depot, you could make it into an overhead gantry crane. You can also have the crane be able to move outside of the building to pick up heavy parts and bring inside by extending the runway beams to the outside.

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If it is going to be train engine maintenance depot, you could make it into an overhead gantry crane. You can also have the crane be able to move outside of the building to pick up heavy parts and bring inside by extending the runway beams to the outside.

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I'll think about it, that seems like a really good idea.

I need to start thinking about how I could make a switch track with the rails, also is it possible to make narrow gauge curves with the bluerail?

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Looking better all the time. I liked the recessed arch doorway and, like others said, the brickwork. What is the purpose of the big grey plate on the side of the building that's set at an angle?

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Looking better all the time. I liked the recessed arch doorway and, like others said, the brickwork. What is the purpose of the big grey plate on the side of the building that's set at an angle?

Ah, It will be sign or a run down billboard, I can't decide if I should go brick built or get a sticker for it. I'm going to add some more scenery stuff around the building like meters and drains and such. Maybe I'll add a pathway and some flowerless stems as over grown grass
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I need to start thinking about how I could make a switch track with the rails, also is it possible to make narrow gauge curves with the bluerail?

I've seen a number of designs using the curved rail, none of which I am really happy with because they all involve stressing the track. There are some brick-build solutions but they are much larger.

Previous thread with stressed switch: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=79312

Brick-built: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=537641

Another brick-built: [WIP] Cape gauge wye switch (Space2310 has a lot of these)

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I've seen a number of designs using the curved rail, none of which I am really happy with because they all involve stressing the track. There are some brick-build solutions but they are much larger.

Previous thread with stressed switch: http://www.eurobrick...showtopic=79312

Brick-built: http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=537641

Another brick-built: https://www.flickr.c...310/5595781770/ (Space2310 has a lot of these)

Oh boy, those feel strange having them built, but they work! I'll think about raising the rail by one plate to make room for them.

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In the past for the narrow gauge railroads, I've elevated the rails and used a turn table design to rotate the tracks and change the direction of short trains (short would be 1 or 2 rails long.

I realize that rails might be at a premium (though you wouldn't "have to" use them. I would strongly consider rails up top for your hoist or some type of slide movement perpendicular to the movement of the current hook. That would earn huge points for both playability, realism and appearance. It looks like that's the intent anyhow.

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About to bulk order some rails and those small wheels, about a hundred of them.... I do plan to make a metroliner style train... not sure how I'll power it...

I bought a small set of battery string lights to light the Moc... I think I'll hide its batteries in the rafters

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I need to start thinking about how I could make a switch track with the rails, also is it possible to make narrow gauge curves with the bluerail?

You can just move the inside rail at least one stud toward the outside rail. I did it here on top of 9v rail for a dual gauge track. It creates a bit of a gap and you have to stagger the rails by one stud, but I think it works without too much stress.

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I need to start thinking about how I could make a switch track with the rails, also is it possible to make narrow gauge curves with the bluerail?

There are a number of designs around the community for switch tracks, and by choosing to swap inside curved rails and outside curved rails you can build a loop of narrow gauge. Here's an example using grey but they are the same geometry.

https://www.flickr.c...39/in/pool-mltc

I found some more videos and pictures in Alexander's photo stream;

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There are a number of designs around the community for switch tracks, and by choosing to swap inside curved rails and outside curved rails you can build a loop of narrow gauge. Here's an example using grey but they are the same geometry.

https://www.flickr.c...39/in/pool-mltc

What wheels are they using for the drivers on that mallet? (it is a mallet right?)

and sheesh I need to think a little harder on my next locomotive.

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What wheels are they using for the drivers on that mallet? (it is a mallet right?)

and sheesh I need to think a little harder on my next locomotive.

I'm pretty sure that the drivers would be BBB medium drivers. The loco is not a Mallet, it's a Garrett, sort of the same but different. Both are articulated, but Garrett's had the boiler suspended between two steam engines each on their own frame. It allowed Garrett's to negotiate narrow curves, and since they had good traction they were ideally suited to many mountainous and narrow gauge applications.

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