Christian Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Now that the seventh and final Harry Potter book is out. Have you read it yet? What did you think of it. I just finished it an hour ago. What a wonderful book! So many twists and turns! SPOILERS The battle of Hogwarts was magnificent and so sad at the same time :'-( . The deaths of Hedwig, Dobby, Tonks, Fred and Colin Creevy came as a huge shock to me! Quote
Eurobricks Emperor Bonaparte Posted July 21, 2007 Eurobricks Emperor Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) I'm not a Harry Potter fan. I only watched the first movie and didn't read any of the books. But I would like to know one thing: Does Harry die? He's not in your list. EDIT: I've capitalized the spoilers-part in the description of this thread. Edited July 21, 2007 by bonaparte Quote
Christian Posted July 22, 2007 Author Posted July 22, 2007 I'm not a Harry Potter fan. I only watched the first movie and didn't read any of the books. But I would like to know one thing: Does Harry die? He's not in your list. EDIT: I've capitalized the spoilers-part in the description of this thread. No Harry dont die, and btw my list was only of the deaths which were shocking, far more people than that die... Quote
Roger the GoGoGo Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 JK Roling is a good writer no doubt but... on the last 3 books she just uses kills as plot twists which is dificulous... Quote
dillthepill Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) The battle of Hogwarts was magnificent and so sad at the same time :'-( . The deaths of Hedwig, Dobby, Tonks, Fred and Colin Creevy came as a huge shock to me! Yeah, and who would have thought Voldemort would die. :-P I was so amazed that I was right when I told everyone: SPOILER ALERT 1)That Snape was good 2)That Harry didn't die I am sorrowed especially by Hedwig and Dobby, both deaths made me cry, the most amazing battles were the Malfoy Manor and of course the Hogwarts Battle. It was so amazing, the way she wrote it, how Harry found the Horcruxes. I was amazed and glad that JK gave an account of the night Harry's parents died, it was a very interesting part. The action was so amazing, the only parts of the story that bored me were the periods when Ron left Harry, and then it got better when he came back. Edited July 23, 2007 by dillthepill Quote
blueandwhite Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Strangely enough, I felt more sorry for Harry's Aunt then almost anyone else. Snape's memories really gave you a sense of how she struggled with being inferior to her younger sibling. Being 'ordinary' must be an incredible downer when your sibling has extrodinary abilities which make you little more than a pet to her. One comon theme in Harry Potter is that Wizards abuse the hell out of ordinary folk. Having one for a sibling would truly suck. Quote
Lt. Col. Thok Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) Damn. The book was such a disappointment... it left an empty void where Harry used to be :'-( Now, we HP fans must wander aimlessly around, looking for the perfect antidote to our woes. Or, we could just kidnap J.K. and force her to write more stories (most likely about Albus-ay Otter-Pay) >:-) Edited July 23, 2007 by Lieutenant Colonel Thok Quote
The Kid Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Damn. The book was such a disappointment... it left an empty void where Harry used to be :'-( Now, we HP fans must wander aimlessly around, looking for the perfect antidote to our woes.Or, we could just kidnap J.K. and force her to write more stories (most likely about Albus-ay Otter-Pay) >:-) Done, I'll grab the sack, you get the return tickets to London. Might need a shovel too. TK Quote
Corvus Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Don't forget the Duct Tape. Comes in handy for everything. :-D Why TF did they have to kill Hedwig?! I know it would have been awkward to keep her, but she should've tried... :'-( The animal rights activists will be all over this. "She killed an owl for a plot twist! Boo!" :-P :-| It's annoying that she relied on character deaths for her story. |-/ SPOILERS! (Highlight space) Didn't Mad-Eye die too? Or did he live? (I'm not completely finished- I have to share with two others) That was such an anticlimatic phrase"Mad-Eye's dead"... :-D END SPOILERS! Edited July 24, 2007 by Mr. Mandalorian Quote
Grand Moff Viceroy Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 i'm not finished yet, I just spoiled myself. :-/ Quote
yellost Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 SPOILER!!! I still have a problem with the invisibility cloak... Is it a deathly hallow? because they say that the one from the Hallows is supposed to be completely foolproof and protects from every curse or spell... But in book 4, Mad eye moody sees harry with his weird eye and in book 6 Dumbledore paralyses Harry at the top of the tower :-/ ... And I didn't like the end... Too many thongs are left unsaid before she jumps to that nice but rather useless epilogue... I mean, where does Harry live? whet job does he have? is he an auror? because he didn't finish his last year... And who raise Teddy Lupin??? since in the epilogue Harry says he doesn't live with them???! and who is Cousin Victoire... and so on... Quote
Athos Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 I found Snape's death to be very unsatisfying. He should have gone out in a blaze of glory saving Harry, rather than simply being offed as snake-chow. Or at least known that Voldemort wanted to be master of the wand and willingly died deceiving Voldemort that he was the wand's master. I also thought Wormtail's death was similarly unsatisfying. I didn't mind the strangled with his own hand part, but I think he should have been killed for more than just one single flash of mercy. His merciful act should have been more dramatic. There should have also been a more redemptive act for Draco too. Even if it was something very minor. I'd also liked to have seen Lupin take on Greyback. Werewolf on werewolf fight. Maybe Greyback could kill Lupin and then Tonks could have taken out Greyback. Steve Quote
yellost Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 I'd also liked to have seen Lupin take on Greyback. Werewolf on werewolf fight. Maybe Greyback could kill Lupin and then Tonks could have taken out Greyback. Hey I didn't realise this before, but what happened to Greyback? the last we hear of him is when Trelawney throws a crystal balls at him... But I doubt that would have killed him... Actually, I don't think Snape knew he wasn't the master of the Elder Wand, seeing that he didn't know anything about it, he only learned about it from Voldemort who told him that since it was Snape that killed Dumbledore, he must be the master... And considering the way Snape really wanted to leave as quickly as possible, I think he believed it too... For Wormstail's death, I quite agree... But it isn't the only death that comes more like a dispatching of an annoying character for the building of the story... I think about Moody. And Hedwig, too... Quote
Brainbox Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Or, we could just kidnap J.K. and force her to write more stories (most likely about Albus-ay Otter-Pay) >:-) Well, it's funny you should mention that. Not too long ago, Waterstones tried to set up a petition to get her to at least not rule out writing more. I'm not sure whether it got anywhere though. SPOILER!!!I still have a problem with the invisibility cloak... Is it a deathly hallow? because they say that the one from the Hallows is supposed to be completely foolproof and protects from every curse or spell... But in book 4, Mad eye moody sees harry with his weird eye and in book 6 Dumbledore paralyses Harry at the top of the tower :-/ ... Yes, it is. It was passed down by Ignotus Peverell. As to the other points you make, for once, I can't answer. But to be honest, I don't really care... And I didn't like the end... Too many thongs are left unsaid before she jumps to that nice but rather useless epilogue... I mean, where does Harry live? whet job does he have? is he an auror? because he didn't finish his last year... And who raise Teddy Lupin??? since in the epilogue Harry says he doesn't live with them???! and who is Cousin Victoire... and so on... It wasn't really supposed to 'reveal all,' just add a happy ending of sorts. Teddy Lupin? Tonk's mother perhaps. Cousine Victoire? Well, to be a cousin is to be a brother or sister's child. And since Harry has no siblings, she'd be one of the next generation of Weasley's. Perhaps she's Bill and Fleur's daughter. Anyway, I finished the book yesterday lunchtime. I would've finished earlier but I was out Saturday night, Sunday afternoon and all Monday. Tch, some people... ;-) But of course, the first problem facing any Potter fan in the UK was were to buy it from. Especially with everyone offering it ridiculously cheap. I decided on Asda, the cheapest, and picked it up Saturday morning for Quote
PSPguy Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) I really didnt understand the epilouge. How the hell is there a "James"? Is that harrys' kid? Or did he go back in time or what? i wish J.K. killed off Harry though. Everyone guessed Harry would live and with all the plot twists as deaths she could have atleast given us a death we thought wouldnt happen. You know what I mean? Also when Voldemort he-who-has-a-long-nickname gets his curse reflected back at him and he falls shouldnt he have died then? I mean he is a "super" wizard isnt he. That should mean his curse is more powerful than other curses performed by other "normal" level wizards right? Rant ON!!! p.s. J.K. Rowling lost me at Umbridge is back. How does that happen? X-D :-P X-D Edited July 25, 2007 by PSPguy Quote
Brainbox Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 I really didnt understand the epilouge. How the hell is there a "James"? Is that harrys' kid? Or did he go back in time or what? For a start, it's entitled '19 years later.' That should give you a clue. ;-) In the future, Harry and Ginny are (presumably) married with three children: James (the oldest), Albus Severus and Lily (the youngest). Ron and Hermione are (presumably) married with two children: Rose and Hugo. There's also Harry's godson Teddy (not sure where he lives, as mentioned in my previous post) and "Cousin" Victoire. As I said Victoire could be Bill and Fleur's daughter, because with Bill being Ginny's brother, any child of theirs would be cousin to the Potter kids. And Neviile's teaching herbology at Hogwarts. Also when Voldemort he-who-has-a-long-nickname gets his curse reflected back at him and he falls shouldnt he have died then? I mean he is a "super" wizard isnt he. That should mean his curse is more powerful than other curses performed by other "normal" level wizards right? Um, I think he did. 'Falls' as in 'dies.' p.s. J.K. Rowling lost me at Umbridge is back. How does that happen? X-D :-P X-D She appeared in the previous book as well, at Dumbledore's funeral. It's unlikely the centaurs would've killed her. Quote
dillthepill Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 My only slight criticism is that the book didn't perhaps make as much use of Luna as it could have done. I like Luna, she's sweet :-$ . I know, Luna is awesome! I really didnt understand the epilouge. How the hell is there a "James"? Is that harrys' kid? Or did he go back in time or what? I mean he is a "super" wizard isnt he. That should mean his curse is more powerful than other curses performed by other "normal" level wizards right? PSPguy, James is Harry's kid. And the only reason Voldemort didn't die when he first tried to kill Harry was because of his horcruxes. In this book, Harry, Ron, and Hermione destroyed the remaining four, making Voldemort mortal again. And why are you all dissapointed that Harry died? I was so happy when I saw he was ok. Quote
PSPguy Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) I know, Luna is awesome!PSPguy, James is Harry's kid. And the only reason Voldemort didn't die when he first tried to kill Harry was because of his horcruxes. In this book, Harry, Ron, and Hermione destroyed the remaining four, making Voldemort mortal again. And why are you all dissapointed that Harry died? I was so happy when I saw he was ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. *sweet* Well to tell you the truth everyone knew Volde-mart was gonna die so i wanted some surprise. :'-( EDIT: I just saw your post Brainbox and you are the Harry Potter expert arent you? Edited July 25, 2007 by PSPguy Quote
Norrington Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 I found Snape's death to be very unsatisfying. He should have gone out in a blaze of glory saving Harry, rather than simply being offed as snake-chow. Or at least known that Voldemort wanted to be master of the wand and willingly died deceiving Voldemort that he was the wand's master. I though Snape's death could have been better too. I allways liked Snape.[qoute] I thought it was kinda' unoriginal, really. It goes the way most books do: Every plot element/character dies, with th exceptions of the lead character and his side-kicks. The final death count: Hedwig Mad-Eye Moody Ted Tonks Bathilda Bagshot Fred Lupin Draco Tonks Snape Voldemort Wormtail And a few others that I can't remember at present... Oh, yeah, if Harry was born in 1980, and turned one and was attacked in 1981, the books took place from 1991-1997, from the period in which Harry was 11 to 17. Cool, eh?[/qoute] Quote
Brainbox Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 I know, Luna is awesome! *y* *sweet* EDIT: I just saw your post Brainbox and you are the Harry Potter expert arent you? Oh, well, you know, I do my best... ;-) The final death count:[...] Draco I decided to reveal your spoilers anyway. Partly so I could comment on them freely, and partly because we can assume that everyone reading this has already read the book. Draco doesn't die. He appears in the epilogue with his wife and son, Scorpio. And a few others that I can't remember at present... Again, taking the same decision as before. Crabbe Dobby Colin Creevy Bellatrix Lestrange Nagini the snake About 50 other (unamed) Hogwarts students Oh, yeah, if Harry was born in 1980, and turned one and was attacked in 1981, the books took place from 1991-1997, from the period in which Harry was 11 to 17. Cool, eh? Yeah, that also occured to me. Funny, although it was never really stated (at least, not that I know of) when the books actually took place, I always assumed it to be more 'now.' Obviously not, then. Not that it really matters. Quote
Professor Flitwick Posted July 27, 2007 Posted July 27, 2007 I just finished it today, which is good for me as I am not a fast reader. In the last chapter 'nighteen years latter' Hermionie was not mentioned, Do you think she marrys Ron? And if yes Is Rose and Hugo there children? I am surprised J.K killed of all the muroders, and Tonks and her dad, poor Teddy Lupin :'-( . Did all the death eaters escaped? When did Bellatrix Lestrange die? I thought the last chapter should have a paragraph or two to loads of charaters, find out what they do after, and the last few pages all to Harry+Ginny and Ron+Hermione. Well anothe ranting(for now). Heres to a great trillogy. Quote
hewkii9 Posted July 27, 2007 Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) In the last chapter 'nighteen years latter' Hermionie was not mentioned, Do you think she marrys Ron? And if yes Is Rose and Hugo there children?I am surprised J.K killed of all the muroders, and Tonks and her dad, poor Teddy Lupin :'-( . Did all the death eaters escaped? When did Bellatrix Lestrange die? I thought the last chapter should have a paragraph or two to loads of charaters, find out what they do after, and the last few pages all to Harry+Ginny and Ron+Hermione. Hermione married Ron, and Hugo and Rose were their children. It was sad, Lupin and Luna were my favorite characters. But who raised T Lupin? Was it Tonks's mom? No, it said they were mostly captured. Mrs Weasley killed her after she saw Bellatrix fighting Ginny, a bit before Voldemort dies. And there's an interview with JK Rowling that sheds a bit more light- I'll get it soon. Spoiler alert: This story reveals some key plot points in the final Harry Potter book. So if you've haven't finished the book, J.K. Rowling asks that you not read this story. If you found the epilogue of Edited July 27, 2007 by hewkii9 Quote
Brainbox Posted July 27, 2007 Posted July 27, 2007 Thanks Hewkii. Nice amount of info there, confirming both things we knew, things we suspected and things we didn't. Quote
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