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Like others have said, two large and expensive Enterprises within a short amount of time would a bit much. Even those people who like both TOS and TNG probably have their favourite and might not want to buy both if the sets are too similar. And TNG wins that race not because it's any better but because the people who grew up with it are in that perfect "fourty-something nostalgic adult" range that LEGO just loves to milk for all they're worth.
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Why would a bunch of Baroque Works members be on board a marine ship? Also I'm pretty sure this would be our only way to get Tashigi. I'm expecting the Loguetown Chase set to be Luffy, Sanji, Smoker, and Dragon with the bike ('cause LEGO love bikes) and maybe a little "Loguetown" sidebuild. I've finally managed to finish season two (real life got in the way) and like I'd half expected going in, for me the season peaked at Whiskey Peak. That was an excellent episode in terms of both stunts and writing. I also loved Reverse Mountain, and liked Loguetown a lot, and enjoyed the two Little Garden episodes more than I thought I would. Drum Kingdom, to me, was the least enjoyable part. It didn't need to be three episodes long and the only characters I found at all compelling were Kureha and Hiriluk. Maybe Dalton too but certainly not Chopper. And while I mostly adore what the make-up and costume department have done with the source material, his heavy point form with the clearly painted on blue nose looks terrible. I hope they'll keep his appearances to a minimum going forward. My minifig predictions: 75641: 271 pcs, $30 (Chopper and Hiriluk's hideout) - Chopper and Hiriluk, possibly also Kureha but I doubt it 75642: 547 pcs, $60 (Loguetown Chase) - Luffy, Sanji, Smoker, Dragon 75643: 576 pcs, $70 (Buildable Chopper) - no minifigs 75644: 733 pcs, $70 (Giants of Elbaph) - just the two buildable giants with no minifigs going by the set name, otherwise it should have been something like "Little Garden Adventure" 75645: 1063 pcs, $100 (Drum Island Castle) - Luffy, Nami, Wapol are a given; not Hiriluk (I'm sure he'll remain exclusive to the smallest set); I expect seven or eight figures total at max which means they'll have to pick and chose among Kureha, Sanji, Vivi (either Kureha or Vivi seems likely in order to up the female quota), Chopper (likely), those two jesters, and Dalton (also likely) 75646: 1705 pcs, $170 (Marine Ship) - likely Garp's ship with the dog figurehead from season one; characters should include Tashigi (we sort of can assume she and Smoker came to the Grand Line with Garp even though that wasn't shown?), Koby, Helmeppo, Smoker, Garp himself, Bogard, IDK who else? Truth be told that sounds like a boring selection and a lot of uniform parts (though at least Smoker's bare-chested under the jacket and Tashigi wears non-standard clothing) and I'd find an island set much more interesting. But I guess they figure ships will sell best? This would give us no Baroque Works members at all but I don't think it's that unlikely. It also means that Zoro (a very popular character) and Usopp wouldn't be in any sets this wave which seems weird to me, but on the other hand I don't see where Zoro would fit into this selection (possibly Loguetown but surely we won't get six minifigs for EUR 60). We'll see.
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Unless I'm mistaken the hat does not cover the back of his head so he always has his alternative expression visible. I hate this in figs, it gives me Quirrell/Voldie vibes. ;-) I agree that the colours seem way off at first glance.
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We can argue all day if Drum Island will be a playset by anyone's definition but my point stands regardless: The cheapest set likely to include Luffy will be EUR 50 or so, this is clearly more of an adults/display theme than a kids' theme. Does your idea for collectible Baroque Works members include Mr 7, then? Because given his only full appearance in the live action I very much doubt LEGO would go there.
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Buildable Chopper. Buildable Gum-Gum Fruit. Buildable Giants have also been reported before and we don't really know that the Little Garden set will contain anything else. That would be three out of seven, nearly half. And we've had this discussion before in the HP forum but large sets like Drum Island and the Marine Ship that are clearly aimed at collectors in terms of price, minifig selection, and subject matter (what kid wants to play "Marine Ship"?) I don't count as playsets. This wave will likely have two sets, tops, that could be of interest to your average kid (the Loguetown chase and Chopper with Hiriluk). And that only with qualifications. Like with the first wave, the smallest set is not really an "affordable set for kids", giving us, say, Luffy and Zoro (the most popular characters) for a small price the way it would be in other themes (even with a really stupid execution like a Luffy mech or Zoro in his racecar chasing Luffy or what have you). It's really more of an add-on for adult collectors, giving us characters that aren't in any other sets so you have to pay extra for them (Shanks and Makino, and now Hiriluk). Don't tell me that your average kid that enjoys One Piece but whose parents are on a budget would be happy playing with just Young Luffy, Shanks, and Makino, and now Chopper and Hiriluk. All in all, despite the overall family appeal of One Piece (there's a kids' dub, the manga is popular amongst kids, the first Netflix season somehow managed a PG-13 rating mostly on technicalities and even won two Kids' Emmys), LEGO seem to treat it more like an adults theme IMO. EDIT: I've found it a common misconception on this forum, and in other forums, that LEGO (or any large business really) would put the customer first. They do not. Of course they advertise it that way, but they do not. In this case: Some people seem to think that LEGO would have any interest in giving us a complete line-up of One Piece characters. But really why would they? What they want to do instead is pick whatever they think sells best. They won't give us a third wave with all the stuff they've left out of the first two, since all of that would be a bigger risk (in terms of whether it would sell) than just going with the staples. Which means we'll continue getting the most iconic and well-known stuff (Merry, Baratie ...) and the more popular and marketable stuff out of the rest (thus three sets out of seven with Chopper because he's cute). But Kuro, Kuroobi, Kaya, and various assassins aren't particularly popular or iconic so LEGO doesn't care if we miss out on them. It's like people constantly clamouring for playsets for LOTR. I keep pointing out that no kid these days is interested in LOTR, thus no playsets. Mostly what those people really mean is that they want LEGO to make cheaper sets for the theme, but again why would they? LEGO don't care whether you can afford to only pay USD 50 but would love to have a LOTR set. Sure, if they don't make one, they'll miss out on your fifty bucks. But there are probably more people who would also like to just pay fifty bucks but instead grit their teeth and buy Bag End instead since there's no other option, so overall LEGO make more money by not giving us mid-size LOTR sets. They aren't obligated to make the theme accessible to those on a small budget, and they don't care to do so because for all their marketing they don't really put the customers first, they put themselves first. We will continue getting what sells, and if it's stupid Gum-Gum Fruits than it'll be stupid Gum-Gum Fruits galore. And not just in this theme, either - like I've said "round shapes with a scene in it" are a thing these days. If they do well overall (Gum-Gum Fruit, HP Cauldron, football stadium ...), we'll have a miniature Death Star with Palpatine in it over at SW in no time. Just like we're now getting Chopper after the (presumed) success of HP Dobby and Marvel Groot.
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I doubt it, though. All the stuff they left out is less iconic and/or family-friendly (creepy Kuro, Whiskey Peak, various assassins). And given how much even the Merry and Baratie get discounted these days, and how the second wave will mainly consist of buildable figs and large collectors' sets, LEGO don't seem confident in the theme's overall mass appeal. Again this is quite independent from the Netflix series' success. Avatar 2 is a good example (a terrible movie IMO but a good example) that a property's success and a LEGO theme's success don't have to go hand in hand. (Though One Piece definitely has more collectors' potential than Avatar 2 in terms of merch, but that also means more competition for LEGO.)
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Did we really need the Gum-Gum Fruit (which I predicted would come at the expense of Whiskey Peak and/or Loguetown) and two Chopper sets? But LEGO don't care about accurately representing the entire season or anything like that. Every theme these days gets cute buildable creatures galore (Dobby, Groot), so Chopper it is. Every theme gets stupid buildable round shapes with a scene in it (HP Cauldron, soccer ball with a stadium in it), so Gum-Gum Fruit it is. To round out the wave, even more buildable creatures and then the big, minifig-laden sets collectors buy. Oh, and motorbikes. LEGO has a thing about those, too.
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I think the show is doing fine but that doesn't always have to translate into set sales. For example Avatar 2 was a huge box office hit but the sets were shelf-warmers. With One Piece I got the impression that a lot of fans bought the whole set wave right away in order to show support, but the sets themselves aren't all that attractive to casual viewers (pricing, figure selection, design), thus the recent discounts. Which is probably why they're going in a different direction with the season two wave (fewer playsets, more buildable objects/creatures). We'll see how this pans out. Netflix: build sets for Loguetown and Whiskey Peak LEGO: make a purple orb and stick two season 1 minifigures of the same character next to it (one with a new face print but still) Also it's EUR 70 for 482 pieces AND part-exclusive? Yikes. It's like they WANT to kill this theme.
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According to StoneWars, the Arlong Park set is going to retire by the end of July, with Buggy's Circus Tent and Windmill Village retiring by year-end 2026. I wonder how well the theme does. The sets seem to mostly have been well-received (not by me but generally I mean :-)), and a lot of One Piece fans seem to have bought the entire line straight away, but I've also noticed them being discounted a lot lately; Amazon currently has the Baratie for like -38%, so I'm kind of wonderng if they didn't expect even more demand given the IP's popularity. Anyway, if anyone feels their collection is terribly incomplete without Cowboy Mihawk duelling Smirky Zoro, now's your chance.
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Does Darth Vader celebrate Christmas in-story by putting on an ugly Christmas sweater? Would Nebula of GotG ever wear an ugly Christmas sweater with Thanos' face on it in-story? And what the heck is that Gingerbread AT-AT with a Gingerbread Darth Vader figure even supposed to be, again in-story? We get all of those because the target group celebrates Christmas and wants Christmas-themed LEGO sets. Ninjago has a huge Western following, so there's no reason we couldn't have ninjas in ugly Christmas sweaters or a gingerbread temple instead. Actually an AC wouldn't even really have to be Christmas-themed, it could just be the ninjas doing winter activities like skating and building snowmen and the like.
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Around here there's plenty of HP advent calendars still available after Christmas, and I agree that this one was particularly bad. Though I don't think we've had a truly "good" one unless you count "removing characters and features that really should be in the set, then putting them in an AC so that people have to buy both" as "good". (Such as: Parvati in Yule ball robes who really should have been in the Clock Tower set, the fireplace for the Great Hall that really should have been in the EUR 200 Great Hall set, and so on.) Still I think there's something else at play here. The Disney AC sold very badly in 2024 (even LEGO discounted it on its own web site along with the Marvel one), yet Disney got another AC in 2025. Marvel did not (Minecraft did instead), but that might have more to do with the fact that they got their own Spiderman CMF series in 2025 (and the poorly-selling 2024 AC was Spiderman-themed as well), so LEGO might simply have wanted to avoid flooding the market in order to prevent buyer fatigue. Marvel are now set to get another AC even though the last one (2024) didn't sell well. The first Minecraft AC in 2025, on the other hand, seems to have been well-received but reportedly there won't be another in 2026. And Friends gets an AC every year even though I've seen shops here have two of them on shelves at the same time (the then-recent 2024 one and right next to it the discounted 2023 one) indicating that they don't sell all that well either. And why doesn't Ninjago, which is hugely popular with kids, ever get an AC? I think there might be a lot of internal politics at work here (i.e. Marvel and Minecraft having to share an alternating slot for some reason? And Ninjago being somehow never considered?) and also a lot of making decisions based on the competition (i.e. there's plenty of other toy companies offering ACs for girls so if Friends and/or Disney don't get ACs LEGO's effectively conceding the field).
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Just because LEGO base their sets on a specific part of a franchise doesn't mean that's the reason people buy them. LotR is at its heart a literary franchise, and I'm sure many people buy the sets because of their love of the books, not the movies (which the sets are barely even based on, i.e. Barad-Dur doesn't appear in the movies in that form). IMO as a books fan the LotR movies were okay-ish and the Hobbit movies were pretty terrible. There's certainly room for improvement in both cases when it comes to adapting the source material. It's not as clear-cut as you make it out to be with many other franchises, too. The HP theme is based on the movies but many people are HP fans because of the books. A lot of people buy the One Piece sets because they're fans of the anime, even though they're based on the Netflix show. If all the newer LotR content tanks (and I fully expect "Hunt for Gollum" to be Hobbit-levels of terrible, though it might still make money given the overall dearth of new LotR content) it won't change people's fondness of the original source material. By which I mean mainly the LotR book trilogy, and that is still an enjoyable read these days. If all the newer ST content tanks, people will still have TOS, TNG, DS9 and whatever you want to count after that. But like I've said a lot of it hasn't aged particularly well in terms of special effects, writing, and characterisation. It works for a certain target group because of nostalgia - like LotR does - but unlike LotR I doubt that it can draw in new viewers these days. EDIT: Fun fact - ever since I've written anything in this thread I'm being swamped with online ads for "ST: Starfleet Academy".
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Yeah, I've always felt that DS9 was the last "big" ST show. Voyager wasn't as popular in my circles and anything after that even less so. The reboot movies were fun for what they were but ultimately forgettable. I know we still have Lower Decks and suchlike but I would consider ST more niche these days, no longer a huge cultural phenomenon. The same is true for LotR up to a point. But at the heart of it LotR will always be a litereary franchise, and the books are timeless classics. So I don't think it suffers as much from having no really popular new content as ST - a TV franchise - does. Anyone can still read LotR these days and admire the beauty of the language, whereas younger audiences probably can't watch the older ST content without cringing about the special effects and some of the writing and characterisation.
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The problem with playsets is that they're mainly for kids, and - just like with LotR - there's no real target group here. Show me one kid these days who cares about Bilbo Baggins or Spock, let alone cares more about them than about Ninjago, K-Pop Demon Hunters, or what have you. So LotR is a fair comparison. BrickHeadz would probably make sense (both Picard and Spock would be very recognisable with little effort) as would dioramas. But I wouldn't expect small playsets (only small GWPs) and I certainly wouldn't expect minifig battlepacks because if LotR doesn't get these (where there's a lot of demand) there's no reason for Star Trek to get them. And actually Star Trek is even less culturally relevant than LotR these days. LotR regularly has new stuff come out (the Rings of Power series, and the Hunt for Gollum movie reported for 2027) whereas even the Star Trek reboot had its last movie what, ten years ago? This theme pretty much exclusively runs on nostalgia. As for future sets, the question should therefore be what is the most iconic to a certain target group (nostalgics in their mid-fourties that have the most disposable income). That's probably also the reason they started with TNG instead of TOS because the TNG target group skews younger. Also minifigs would be a main draw since that's what separates LEGO from the competition. I'd expect us to get the TOS crew sooner or later (the series itself may be a little too old but its still the most impactful part of Star Trek, everyone knows who Spock is!) and the DS9 crew as well, and for LEGO to pick subjects that reflect this. I.e. a Bird of Prey might be an iconic type of ship but who would it be manned by - a bunch of generic Klingons? Not likely when LEGO could instead make people pay for actual beloved characters. Maybe we could get the Bounty (from Star Trek IV, which is probably still one of the most beloved ST movies) which would allow us to get the TOS crew with it.
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I'm assuming both Chopper and the giants are brick-built. That leaves us with only two sets I might possibly be interested in that also fit my budget, and that's before we know anything about builds, minifigs, and so on. At this rate I might never own a One Piece set (despite my love of the show I skipped the first wave entirely) and frankly that's okay with me.
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Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
I wonder how well the X-Mansion (latest Marvel modular), the Spiderman CMF series (indicator of Spidey interest among AFOLs), and playset Oscorp sell. If all three are doing terrible that might well be it for Marvel modulars. If not they mighr just give us Oscorp a year later (i.e. so as not to coincide wirh the playset) or maybe something from Doomsday (though surely not without gauging interest by giving us some Doomsday playsets first, given the currebt state of the MCU). -
Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
On Halloween Eve? Except that for some reason it's not evening in the Hall at all. Again, this makes no sense and would have been so easy to rectify. Even the old "Troll on the Loose" set had a (single) pumpkin decoration to signify that it took place during Halloween. If LEGO Hogwarts can decorate the toilets for this occasion surely they can decorate the Great Hall. Or would, like, a pumpkin and two bats have blown the budget for this EUR 200 set? -
Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
I still think the missing fireplace is a no-go. I cannot remember a single Great Hall so far that didn't have one, and for the Most "Detailed" Hogwarts Ever that's a really bad look. And yes I know it would technically be on the "open" side, but again LEGO has alway put it in before and has now offered it for an upgrade TWICE (with the Dueling Club and with the 2024 AC) so clearly it's not a matter of being true to the source material. Also what's that nonsensical secret passage doing here? And why is it Christmas in the Hall but Halloween in the dungeons right below it? And why is the sky during the Halloween/Christmas/whatever feast blue with antistud clouds? It would have been so easy to add a small fireplace (even if it's on the short side of the hall near the Gryffindor banner, better that than none at all), decorate the Hall with a bunch of pumpkins or bats or whatever, and make the sky black with glow-in-the-dark stars. But this feels like no thought at all went into it. And I haven't even gone into the portrait corridor (we're still missing a bunch of classrooms, why are we wasting space on that) or the pathetic Hufflepuff Common Room. Oh, and the terrible official connection to the Main Tower. I've said this before but if I'm to pay Modular prices I want Modular levels of design and detail. Just compare this Great Hall to the Tudor Corner which is well and coherently designed and crammed full of detail! -
Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
Hard to say. Their track record's kind of wonky there, though IMO they seem to skew towards the darker end in recent years. Over at HP, the set 76413 from 2023 depicts a scene where a student dies, but the LEGO set omits that particular student. Meanwhile the Malfoy Manor set from 2025 includes Dobby (who is mortally wounded in the scene depicted) and the Hagrid's Motorbike set also from 2025 included Hedwig the owl (who dies in that scene - she's technically just a pet but her death is played like a person's). -
Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
Have you seen their latest "Dreamzzz goes to war" wave of sets? Including an actual tank! Though they euphemistically re-named it a "Tiger Shark Vehicle" (translated) for the German-speaking market (the English name is "Tiger Shark Tank"). -
I'm assuming the biggest two will be the ship and castle.
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Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
How much are you willing to pay? These days LEGO HP buildings only come in two options: overpriced facades (i.e. Malfoy Manor for EUR 150, D2C Hogsmeade for EUR 380), and small/enclosed. In the latter version, Privet Drive, which is one small bungalow, was already EUR 90. Grimmauld Place would essentially require three large townhouses so we're probably talking at least EUR 400, and that's without counting in LEGOflation. So here's a recap of what we have so far including previously mentioned guesses: 76462: 14+ (545 pcs.) probably buildable creature/object (think the new Expecto Patronum). Any guesses what they'll come up with for that? I won't pretend to know LEGO's mindset when it comes to buildable creatures/objects, there've been so many lately where my mind just went "Yikes! Who on earth okayed that?" 76469: 8+ (379 pcs.) probably a class module (interior-only) for the modular Hogwarts the size of the Potions Class; Divination seems likely because it was such a glaring omission in the PoA-based Hospital Wing and is the last class missing from the Moments Books. Though I could also see them going with something else and keeping Divination for a Charms Class replacement as it's not a very substantial class in terms of builds; basically throw in a teapot, one or two teacups, a crystal ball, and if you want to be fancy a curtain or two, and you're good. But I'm not sure which class they could pick instead as we seem to have covered all the popular ones, and Care of Magical Creatures takes place outside. 76471: 8+ (788 pcs.) probably playset Diagon Alley expansion - if so probably Flourish and Blotts, which is the last "big" shop from the D2C set still missing and would feature Lockhart (to go with this year's likely CoS theme from the modular Hogwarts), with a more obscure shop on its side. Might be Magical Menagerie which I think we'll get to sooner or later because animals. The other option is Gringotts but I could see them doing F&B first. Unless they want to spread out the Lockhart appearances. 76473: 10+ (2164 pcs.) probably Hogwarts Expansion (Viaduct/Chamber of Secrets seems likely) 76474: 14+ (817 pcs.) possibly book nook although I'm not sure how well-received the last one was; it was discounted pretty heavily as far as I could see 76475: (244 pcs.) Are we sure that's not the advent calendar? We already have two smaller, affordable sets in the January Wave (Sorting and motorbike) which has to be some kind of HP record, I wouldn't be surprised if we got zero in the Summer wave(s). 76477: (480 pcs.) The piece count is about on par with the Knight Bus Adventure or Book of Monsters, it seems a tad much for a buildable creature in the style of Dobby and the Demon Pixie (plus I wouldn't expect two of those within the same year). So for now I'm going to say that it's something stand-alone, not belonging to the modular system or Diagon Alley. Any ideas? Another option would be an outside addition to the modular Hogwarts, i.e. Care of Magical Creatures, or the start of yet another gimmick series like that Cauldron thing from the January wave. Also: We could do with a new Hogwarts Express (the current one goes EOL in a couple of day) but the current one's twice as many pieces so that would be a significant downgrade. Still I'd be surprised if we ended up without an iconic red train on shelves in 2026, so either there's still lot of leftover stock from the current one or there might be a (partly?) exclusive new Hogwarts Express that's not on this list? Set numbers 76472 and 76476 are unaccounted for as of yet. -
Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
Because it's been discussed here lately: StoneWars has a comprehensive article about smart play rumours up (solely regarding the SW theme so far, but it gives a good overview of what kinds of sets to expect). -
Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
- Are we supposed to accept the brainwashing as an excuse then, and to think that Bucky really did nothing wrong? I'm asking because Marvel Studios cannot make up their minds on that. Half of TFATWS was Bucky having to apologize and make amends for crimes he'd committed while brainwashed. Why would he have to apologize and make amends if he were blameless? Bottom line is you cannot fault Tony for being angry at his parents' murderer and you cannot fault him for for holding Bucky responsible if Marvel Studios do it, too. - Also Tony was Steve's teammate who'd saved his megablocks on more than one occasion, and Bucky had been his best friend a looooong time ago but had obviously changed since then. Yet you think Steve was in the right doing what he did? Again, this was not about incapacitating Tony so he couldn't kill Bucky based on possibly faulty or incomplete information (re: the brainwashing) and so they could then talk it over. Tony was already incapacitated! This was about revenge plain and simple. They quite happily would have killed him. - Again you "assume" that Steve had anything to do with Tony's rescue but there's no indication whatsoever that he had. They could have shown a shot of his seeing the jet, of his calling anyone and saying something as simple as "Get him out", or even a quick convo with Bucky about how Tony surely had a plan in place. (And why would he have? Steve must have noticed that Tony was extremely distraught, not thinking clearly. That he didn't have a backup since otherwise he'd have deployed it already given the situation. And that he could not rely on others since, you know, his team leader had turned against him.) There is nothing to support your assumptions other than the general feeling of "Cap wouldn't do that". All the evidence on screen shows that, in fact, Cap would do exactly that. - Add to that the facts that Steve had been extremely (and needlessly) antagonistic towards Tony from their first meeting onward. Also add that Steve was the leader of the Avengers. Also add that Steve is responsible for creating this mess in the first place because he knew that Bucky had murdered the Starks but had deliberately withheld that information from Tony, probably in the futile hope that Tony (the guy with all the tech!) wouldn't find out. Bottom line: If Steve had acted like the leader of the Avengers that he's supposed to be, and had addressed the issue previously, the entire mess could have been avoided. If Steve had acted like any halfway decent person and teammate (I'm not even going into the "paragon of morality" thing) he'd have stopped at incapacitating Tony but not actually left him to die. He also never apologized for either of these failings. YMMV of course but like I've said this made me lose all respect for Steve. -
Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion
brickbride replied to Clone OPatra's topic in LEGO Licensed
You don't have to try and make Siberia sound bad, though. It just was bad. I lost all respect for Cap in that moment. And again there's no indication that he planned on any sort of rescue for Tony. Tony's a public figure, the fact that he did not die would be public as well, so his sending the phone afterwards means nothing. Of course I approach these movies like a rational human being, and I don't quite think Marvel Studios does; potentially lethal fights between teammates seem to be just a sort of filler to them. Like Cap, Thor, and Iron Man getting into a three-way fight to the death in "The Avengers" for really no good reason, or the stupid airport battle in "Civil War" that against all odds ended with barely any casualties. (Or even the Guardians vs. Strange/Iron Man/Spidey on Titan, though that's my favourite and at least neither party had reason to believe the other would be on their side at first glance.)