Hayleigh Hippo

Aliens, all of you! Me, too! Another fine game with some crazy mechanics. Could have gone very differently, glad it didn't. Thanks, Hinck, it was a good time. And I got ice cream!

You can't make me click, you filthy memester!

Vote: Lyev Lion

Can't we just toss him over the side and be done with it? Cult of Torgam. Hmmm. It isn't the first time I've seen a dragon cult, though the one I remember had a more charismatic leader who didn't end up in someone's larder. Just sayin'.

And look at that, no kill for the night. Cow-incidence? You sure can, dear. It's alien strawberry!

Bad kitty! Good riddance! Good ice cream! From the aliens? As for Lyev, I was the amnesiac investigator and he was my target. I had the results sent to Fergus (that's how the role works) and I am told I was successful, so now we wait and see. The lack of a kill makes me wonder if our jailer did a good thing and I wonder how the watcher did as well. This could be a great day for us, it's already off to a nice start. ice cream and no more furry balls around the ship. Fur balls. FUR BALLS. What?

I feel like the clock stopped. I blame little green aliens dragons. Fergus: Expect a message when the night comes.

I didn't take it as just for him and given that you've wasted the whole day chasing me, the one person who is as town verified as you, it seemed worth commenting. There is exactly the same chance as there is of me being scum, doesn't matter how you say it. A fairly interesting theory, if Keyarra wasn't the real vig and claimed to you. A valid theory you failed to even respond to. Even Hendrick admitted that his attention to Wyeth may have been too much and if you read back, he didn't suspect Priella either. If we want to get picky, look at the attempted vote against Keyarra, which included you, before you switched to the easy pig vote. We now know that would have been wrong. Being wrong isn't exactly difficult, especially early on, but I can assure you, if I was scum, I would have been on the Priella vote as well, and not nearly as late as you. As for switching between thinking you're suspicious or truthful, that isn't exactly true. I've found things you've said and situations surrounding you to be both, but at no point did I come to a conclusion until we knew the alignment of Wyeth, which pushed me more towards trusting you, based on how statistically improbable it would be for either of us to be scum. If you'll recall, I made it clear that the suspicious nature of the failed frame, for example, could also be caused by the target, not just you. And there you go again and it still makes no sense. It should be interesting. If she doesn't turn out to be the trickster, we're back to trying to figure out the failed frame. If she does, I have no doubt you'll decide it's me and lead a bandwagon, I seem to be the only tune you know. When that turns out to be wrong, and it absolutely would, you'll be the only logical next choice. Sadly, I suspect the town will lose two town in the process, but with only one likely left, it should still be possible for us to win. Let's get this party started. Vote: Calissa Sorry, missed this, it didn't look like much in the quoting. For either of us to be scum, it would take a ridiculous about of exact right moves or luck and it would pretty much also require 4 scum which I said I doubted and still do. Suspecting me prior to Wyeth being revealed was reasonable enough, I also stated that there was probably a scum in the bunch, not counting the investigators themselves, but we're way past that point and it's not logical now. *about = amount

Having to guess between 3 possible investigation targets should yield very different results after one of those has been revealed to be scum and statistically a second scum is incredibly unlikely. Do I need to find posts where this has been said before? You and I are literally just as likely as each other to be scum, so your odd obsession with me is just a waste of a day. In this grand theatre of the unlikely where we're supposed to believe that all the elements line up to cause highly improbable results, let's go for a much simpler theory. What if the vig was Keyarra and Fergus somehow knew that. We know there has been behind-the-scenes communication between multiple people, so maybe she made the mistake of trusting him and it cost her life, but not before she could take out a scum. Would explain why she was the target when there is no other logical reason I can see, and it would put the scum in the best position possible, claiming vig on a scum kill. Was I really the only one who thought that the intro was odd for including this? Why is it that every night action related to Fergus is somehow a little off? Don't even get me started on why someone would get two actions in a row, when I know of a few people who didn't even have one in the first two days, myself included.

The only way I could turn out to be scum in this whole scenario is if Evran was scum (and sane) and lied about Wyeth and you were insane and I was framed. That is a lot of things to try to line up at the same time and statistically ridiculous. It would also require at least 4 scum and I'm still not one. I really haven't, the only thing I said was a fair point that had to be kept in mind at the time, the possibility of scum lying to look good. We didn't have Wyeth's true result yet, so it was still a point to be considered and wasn't meant to only be about you, but about all the investigators. Until yesterday, I had no connection to you and our only conversation that I recall was about your quirk which initially confused me when you didn't catch my bad pun about bears. You didn't say anything about me supposedly throwing shade at you last night when we spoke, so I thought you understood the point I had made. I'm surprised to find out now that you took it as shade. Perhaps you're more knowledgeable about these things than I am, but I do think that tipping someone off too early isn't a great idea. Enough rope and all that.

No, I said I trusted her a little more for reporting accurately, but did acknowledge the possibility of a scum trying to look good. That was a reasonable thing to note because it is legitimately a possibility, even if I doubt it is the case. If I had ever felt that was definitely the case, I would have said so. At this point, I have no suspicions strong enough to actually follow them, but I am watching a few things closely. I don't think it's wise to potentially warn them into behaving differently. So why do you seem to want to lynch the person you think is the trickster? Personally, I think they're likely a threat to the town, thus part of our job to eliminate, but you wouldn't be wrong to say we can't prove it and that the scum have a much clearer directive on the subject.

How exactly was I trying to make her look bad? I'm not going to exclude any possibility, but it wasn't even my idea that the scum might try vouching for someone in the town. I should add that calling her crazy wasn't anything more than a response to her quirk, and I don't think I'm the only one to notice that. At least I didn't call her an alien. I never, for a moment, suspected Wyeth of being scum and thought the horse was trying to misdirect us, so you, being the only person who had been involved in an odd situation, had to be the most suspicious. The blocked frame is still weird to me, but given that we now know that our investigators were sane, I'm inclined to trust you and go back to the other possibility, the cat is the trickster. The odds are certainly a lot better. I'm glad you made the right choice, at least, it's rare for a vig. I did not have an action, for the second night in a row, so you would have been safe, but the town would have been hurt a lot. Ridiculously low for all of that to line up, and basically impossible for anyone to orchestrate. I still don't understand your suspicion, but at least it wasn't as much as you suspected Wyeth. That was something I wondered/worried about given how the absorber thing might work. I agree that the only safe way to kill the trickster, and I also assume it's the cat, is by lynch. So here's the only problem I have with all of it. The wiki makes it clear that a trickster can be any alignment. I'm inclined to think that the choices made thus far make them look neutral, since choosing framers and investigators could have easily hurt the town dramatically, which based on numbers is likely their first goal. To follow up with PGOs was likely to result in a bloodbath of the kind only a neutral would want. I don't even know what to make of today's choices, but not knowing what other options may have been presented, this might be the most destructive. It also, theoretically, tells us that the scum have never targeted the trickster or they might have lost one of those actions. I say might, because the wiki says that sometimes actions are taken for one night, and sometimes forever. I also thought there were likely to be 3 scum and still do, so one scum could be allowed to do more than one thing in a night. The other possibility is that Omrom can't say "oh hey, there is only one scum left, so they only get one action" without revealing too much. He also can't actually say all those words. It would be more like ... nope, can't do it. Hurts my head too much. Oh, one other possibility with only one scum remaining would be that they have those as their available actions, but can only choose one. What he said leaves a lot to interpretation, really.

I'm starting to think those little blue things are aliens, they give me nightmares! Great news on the walrus. He hadn't ever struck me as too suspicious, so it's a good thing he died in the night. Slightly odd that there is no indication of what killed him, it must be odd since it was specifically pointed out, but I'm not sure that's a mystery we need to solve, to be honest. So that's 2 scum down and some of us more confidently confirmed as town. Overall, a pretty good night. Shame about the horny croc. Was he on to something that got him killed? I know he wanted to be on something that might have killed him, but he never seemed to get the chance.

Are you an alien? You are little and green, but I never pictured aliens being so adorable.

You know, given the crew's propensity for using the lynched as fuel, we can at least be sure the engines will have plenty of ... wait for it ... horsepower. There, I said it before the little snot can.

Any reason or just kind of random? I'm obviously not going to be suspicious of myself, and knowing that the crazy cow, no offense intended, reported it accurately makes me trust her a little more, despite the possibility of a scum trying to look good. So, of the other two, Fergus is the most suspicious to me, since he had the oddly failed frame. That said, it isn't much to base anything on and it raises just as many questions about his target. Maybe more questions about her. Plus it still leaves a chance of the scum trying to make him look bad. Beyond that, what the hell is up with that comic? I know we're not supposed to look for clues in the pictures, but that goes way beyond normal. Anything I could interpret out of it would probably be a violation of the rules, so I'll just stop there. Except the part about it not being earth. We've been the aliens all along??? Whatever the case, it's going to be a very interesting night.

I said I would do this, I think I've waited long enough with no sight of mane or tail. Always wondered if he was an alien in a horse suit. Vote: Hendrick Horse There's still time, speak up! Here's a thought that troubles me a bit. Is there any way he could be unable to speak in game? It sounds ridiculous to me, thoroughly insane, and that makes me wonder, given the rest of this. I don't think it changes what we have to do if there is never a reply, but it does make me a little uncomfortable. I think the thin air up here may be getting to me.

There!

Well don't be too shocked if I do the same eventually. I did vote for him yesterday and I wouldn't say his activity, or in this case, inactivity today has improved that situation. As for the absorber thing, didn't the little green snot say that the trickster is one? You know who else is green? Uh huh...

I honestly don't know. I considered the latter but couldn't come up with a reason for the second framer to have never claimed if they just intended to go along with the stated plan anyway.

Yeah, it's nagging at me. You could have easily not reported the failure, since no one has claimed to investigate your target, which generally makes me believe that you're being honest. That in mind, maybe we need to look at it from the other end. Is there any kind of role that is immune to framing? Could the way the frame target was chosen have been gamed to land on someone who knew they couldn't be framed?

Absolutely agreed there. Unless the scum want to claim, naturally.

I think it's incredibly suspicious that a frame would fail. That doesn't mean you're suspicious, but the result is. Would there have been any good reason for someone to block that when it was so clearly announced as to be meaningless? I'm sorry if I didn't make that clearer. As for 'clearly one', if we know there are 2 sane and 1 insane investigators, yet we got 3 town results, one has to be scum. Am I missing something here? Oh, if the other framer targeted one of the three, then they were investigated by the insane one, they would end up back to town. Ugh. I hadn't gone quite that far in my thinking. Still seems like a real long-shot though. Someone want to work up the math on that?

The fact that Fergus failed to frame and was one of the people investigated stands out as the most suspicious to me. Clearly one of the 3 who were investigated is scum and I know it's not me, but I have no idea how to conclusively narrow it down to one. Anyone else have an investigator claim, or are these the three for certain? Sadly, the sheepdog could have also been one since he died and we'll never know.

That's good news because I actually am town, so I know you weren't an insane investigator, aside from your usual insanity, at least. As for Priella, I will admit to being surprised but it's a pleasant surprise. I didn't think she was suspicious enough to vote for, but I'm glad some of you did. Shame about Shanley Sheepdog. Try saying that a few times fast...