Pembroke Panda

We did it! Can...I have some of the gold now?

Vote: End the day early

I don't think that is the problem.

Vote: Lyev Lion

Thank you for waiting, I am quite a bit peckish and I lost my desert collection. Probably the trickster's fault too! Glad to see I was right about that scummy lion and we were right about the cat too! Can't say I'm looking forward to 72 hours of memes though. Anyone happen to have a day kill special action? This is a good time to use it.

I hope you mean the Lion since Wyeth is dead scum already.

No, I totally agree with this! Since day one the lion has appeared to be unhelpful and scummy. Even now he is going to wait until the last minute and vote on whatever bandwagon (that isn't himself of course) though he's been around and commented but never put forth any suspicions or votes. I know I have been pushing the cat's lynch and her defense is nothing to change my mind, I do think she's the trickster. However, while i was taking a little pandanap i was also thinking about the way things look right now. It appears that we only have roles when the trickster assigns them. If the trickster is gone, town has no more roles to try and find the last scum. We'll be stuck trying to lynch someone with no way to verify anyone and in the meantime the scum will also be killing us nightly. @Fergus Fox What do you think? Are we dooming ourselves by taking out our only means of roles? I could be completely wrong about roles but I know i'm vanilla and I haven't seen anyone producing results other than with the trickster roles so far.

There is always the possibility that we misinterpret each other or misunderstand what someone is trying to say I think this is the part along with all the other stuff about her not being a thread to the town. I see that you really did say she does need to go, so maybe I misinterpreted your meaning in the first place. Her posts really don't seem scum-like to me at all. The posts that I'm seeing where folks seems to be saying she is jumping on the cow appear to be playing off the cow's crazy quirk and not any sort of actual accusations. On top of that she was already found as Town on investigation (which I know is not 100% especially in this setup) and no scum with a brain would stick that hard (two days!) to voting on someone they knew was town (the Horse). Taken individually, each of these is not very conclusive but all of it together makes me think that a lynch of the Hippo would be a huge waste of a day. She's had so little interaction with more suspect animals that her death wouldn't even give us anything more to go on. So am I sure she's town? Of course not. She's in my very-likely-town category though. I see some much more suspicious characters. Who? You may be asking yourself. Lion - Since day 1, I was suspecting Lion. When Horse turned up down, I began to doubt myself but neigh! I see Lion is still contributing nothing, not actually answering questions, and still not helping us in any capacity. This is some classic scum wishywashiness. Second vote on the Walrus, but that lynch obviously wasn't going anywhere, the horse just gave no good reasons to get anyone to follow that lynch so it was a safe place for scum to vote early. Cow - Ah now here's a strange one. The one that came back with the hippo's town investigation. Jumps onto every bandwagon vote without a thought put into it. Agrees with the fox even if it's the opposite of what she had previously said herself. However, you might say, she was the first vote on Priella! Yes, well, the first vote is nothing. I recently recall an event where a scum was first vote on a teammate who was ultimately lynched that day - it could have been done to try and keep herself in the clear not even thinking any day 1 vote would gain traction. I could also be wrong. Elephant - Meh. I dunno, no feelings here either way. Third vote on the Pig though, so probably not scum as there would have been a tipping point chance and having to back out at that point would have been very dangerous. Wow, looking back at day one it's crazy how we already had two scum in the lineup of lynch possibilities. Those two scum voted for Monkey and Elephant which somewhat causes me to cast suspicion on those two - which might be what the scum were hoping to do later on. Or maybe to make those two look more town. It's very difficult to use this information without any more hard evidence. Now I must get back to figuring out which of these statuettes I'm missing, if any. I really thought i had the whole collection. I hope Omrom didn't take the gold one...but I can't find it. The Captain America one is missing too, what is the deal? This is going to drive me mad! I know I set it down right on the shelf with the others... Instead? Well that's interesting and not normal. I wouldn't say 100% but surely in the very-likely-town category. I do not agree with this reasoning of not voting because we have no true leads on who the last scum is, but we know who the trickster is. Killing a townie over all these random suspicions makes it just that much closer for scum to take the lead and i find it very unlikely we're going to get a scum without more clues. I think we should go for the sure thing here and use some roles tonight to see if we can find that last scum.

Wait a minute now. We are all pretty much in agreement that the Cat is the trickster - so much so that I was jumped on yesterday for saying we should get the scum numbers down first and then worry about that neutral. Now all of a sudden the neutral isn't a threat and we shouldn't worry about it? And this is coming from somebody that miraculously is getting a role every day from the trickster? Everyone was so sure that there was one scum in the list of investigators/investigated and that scum is now dead, so now the same person saying we shouldn't lynch the trickster (the only way to eliminate it, by the way) is opening up this new attack on the Hippo who was cleared as town by a possible investigation. Why such a push all of a sudden? How does the Hippo seem any more or less suspicious than anyone else at this point? Everyone on that list is as clear/not-clear as everyone else. So all of a sudden we go from people saying there are definitely 3 scum to definitely 4 scum? How does that even make sense given the size of the group here? We don't appear to have any roles other than the trickster roles and the scum roles, so how fair would that be to have such an incredibly large pool of threats for us to try and find? Even suggesting there are two left is extremely suspicious to my eyes. If the Fox is town and told the truth about the first night action, it is plain to see that the Cat is the trickster and we can not solve this until that is taken care of. We can not rely on a lucky shot at night if we even get another chance with a vig action. There is no other clear choice today. Vote: Calissa Cat Something is reeking fishy here and I don't think it's those clams the Walrus left on deck.

Wow, I guess the whole lost track of time thing was actually true. I never suspected the walrus either, but the horse saw it day one and none of us listened. So, horse I am sorry (I cry into the voice, below deck) and Lion, I will have to rethink that as well. Please, just everyone let's keep my fuzzy balls out of this. I have a nice collection of marbles here if anyone wants something small and round to play with.

Ah, I see. Thank you. I thought that was day 1. I seem to be losing all track of time up here in the air, but thankfully I have kept track of my string collection. These sentences make zero sense to me.

Are you kidding me right now? I spelled out all my reasoning about why the horse is scum yesterday and explained why I voting for the pig instead. For someone that does a lot of strange math, you sure don't like to pay attention. Hopped on board? :shaking_my_damn_head: Where does it say the scum kill is compulsive? Interesting that you say this, like you have some insider information. Omrom said the kill was compulsive last night. Did he say that tonight? Maybe I missed it.

Oh Omrom, you little scamp! How can I be mad though, you are soooo adorable I just hope the ship doesn't fall apart with all your hording. I have a collection of old ship supports, I'll see if I can dig them out and see if the captain would like to borrow them. Everyone told me to toss them out, but I knew they'd come in handing some day. For all the reasons I listed yesterday Vote: Hendrick Horse

This statement is confusing me, it doesn't seem correct. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you though. If the Fox was blocked, his action would be reported back as unsuccessful. That's normally (there's that word again) the way things work. If the Cat absorbed it or was protected or some other reason the frame didn't actually happen, then i suppose it might be reported back as successful to the Fox because his action did work but the Cat didn't get the intended result - but I could also see it being reported as unsuccessful in those cases as well. It would be totally up to the one who was reporting it. Not sure it's something to focus on in this case. Over time, we might be able to learn more if things are reported back consistently one way or another.

I didn't dismiss anything, I wonder why you are twisting my words to indicate that I am dismissing it. I would guess that either the scum blocked you, the cat was protected (that might stop a frame), or the cat is the trickster and absorbed the frame instead of it doing it's job. Or, you could be lying about it completely and there was no failure at all. Nothing that happened last night helps us today, but just like you said it will help us in the coming days when we know more and can verify through roles or deaths. I know what our task is, but we can't concentrate on everything at once. Multitasking is a lie and trying to figure out everything at once is futile. I'm choosing to try and figure out who the scum are first since there are more of them (we know there were at least two at the start) and then once that is figured out we can hunt the trickster when we have some more solid info at least.