Fazit

I don't know why. Why don't you look like a panda anymore? Ask a silly question... I don't hide, I just flew in to visit. Heard there was a party. Haven't been disappointed. As for being expensive, I suppose it depends on your perspective. There was a time when my ancestor and his partner cost a town everything.

Well well well, what do we have here? You lot have managed to get yourselves in trouble, just like our ancestors did. Am I going to have to clean up another mess? I'll tell Torgam on you, Miss Cow lady. You seem oddly familiar anyway...

And who were you? We ever going to see the day you can make it through day one without being you? Always kill the active and invested, unless they're helping you inadvertently.

Let's be honest, Martin was also a cannibal and he killed your dietician, so was he really any better? Now, the kingdom can thrive in peace and harmony under the just and righteous rule of dragons, as it should be. Based on the idea that I was lying about what Omrom told me, but it was 100% accurate, and when Martin confirmed it, you suspected him as well. You did seem to trust Quinn though, and he was my partner. Thanks for a fun game, DD. Now let the griping commence about the differences in the roles and the wiki roles. Just in case anyone wonders, the scum weren't given role/alignment, only alignment, contrary to the wiki, but in accordance with our role PM. Good thing we waited to kill a power role until the last day, huh?

Yay, we did it guys, we must have! We should have done it on day 1, but at least we got here together.

Aw, thank you! Look, Covimgamully, a star for your cart! I bet Omrom would love it... That reminds me, we have business to take care of and our friends and family to avenge. Omrom didn't trust you and neither do I. Nothing you've said or done has changed that. Vote: Ellis Go on, keep lying like Josie did. Look how well that turned out for her.

Everything I've said is paraphrased from what Omrom said, and I know he was paraphrasing as well because he was afraid of breaking the rules. He thought your attempt to take the blame for Ima's lynch was incredibly weird and misplaced, like someone trying to set themselves up as a townie. He was certain you were scum and I believe it. Thank you for confirming what Omrom said. I definitely consider guessing to be fishing when you're guessing to the person who knows and don't bother asking the important questions about their targets and alignments. It's ok, I haven't had much practice at it, but I can roar like my brothers and scare it off. ROAR! What was the spooky thing I just scared off?

I can't quote and you know that, but it's the truth. Our PM is longer than any of the game days, so I had to go back to find the exact messages. He said, very clearly, that Quinn and I had only asked for who the vig had targeted and their alignments and that you said not to trust them and tried to guess who it was. That is clearly fishing for their identity. He directly said that you didn't ask for any of the important information, the things that could help the town figure out what was going on. You screwed up and then he died, so you probably thought that wouldn't be revealed, but he may have also told Martin, I certainly hope he did. You never said a lot of things, did you? You certainly made him think you were a killer somehow, and his last sad message to me was about being scared for one of us. He will be avenged, I guarantee it.

I can confirm most of what you said, Omrom and I talked a lot. I was already certain he wasn't the vig, he left a hidden message on day 1 claiming vanilla and I believed it. We spent hours and hours trying to calculate every possible situation, bouncing ideas and plans at each other, and ultimately he came up with writing everyone to gauge their responses. He was certain that either he or I would die from the scum, but that if the vig killed properly, we could still win. As you said, based on the replies, he was absolutely certain that Ellis was the scum and I agree. The way I read Omrom's paraphrasing of it, Ellis asked who the vig was and never had any interest in the targets. That's about as scummy as it gets in that situation. I wish we had lynched him on day 1. I wish you hadn't, as Omrom called it, stayed home, last night. As confusing as it is, we can't be at 2:2. I only have one possible answer for that. If the scum role was changed slightly to make them partners but without knowing who the other was, working independently and somehow looking for each other, given alternating days for their kills, one could accidentally kill the other before they reunited. It would be a pretty good way to balance things, but as unbalanced as the serial killer was, I'm not entirely convinced. Still, it's the only way I see us being alive today: one of them killed the other. I understand why you didn't kill last night. We didn't know if your odds would be 3:1 or 2:2, though I'll still argue it can't be 2:2, and you didn't want to make a mistake and doom us all. Ultimately, inaction might be our doom, though, and we no longer have the option. If it's 3:1 and we don't lynch, the scum, know exactly who to target. If it's 2:2, it isn't going to matter, they can't be lynched or outnumbered and will eventually win by default. There is no statistic for a town/scum draw in Donner, only scum/SK, and at least we dealt with that horrible possibility. And then he died.

The bitch lied! She had the nerve to try to sully the good name of Covam, claiming he was scum and leaving us to think we were safer than we were. And now Omrom! Dear, adorable Omrom, the last of my poor family. It looks like he was killed while still holding his beloved golden dragon statue, Covimgamully. Why? Will this nightmare ever end?

According to that page, so do the scum, so that doesn't prove much. Speaking of which, if Covam was scum, had he killed anyone? You should have received their information as well.

I was still hoping the blocker was alive. I wouldn't believe her now if he hadn't claimed to you. That keeps nagging at me, it's such a risky move, but she has to be some kind of bad killer and none of them can work with the town. At least we know that much. I know where there is a cart, we can pull it around in that and it can ride like a king. You're being so nice, please don't be bad...

Sadly, that's the only part that may not be completely psycho, though it could still be a lie. According to the Donner page, she has been told the role/alignment of all of her victims. Another situation where the wiki is confirmed as true, assuming she hasn't lied again. It's kind of funny how she keeps digging up new claims the closer she gets to death.

A plain neutral, like you tried to claim, maybe, but not a Serial Killer. How? We pick a target and you promise to kill them and then kill another one of us instead? That sounds helpful. Here's what we do know. If the scum are both dead and you could stall us long enough to kill the vig, you'd win, the only way you can, alone. If you aren't lying and Covam was scum, and the vig is already dead, killing the other scum would also let you win, alone. I'm sensing a pattern here, and it only works if we let you live. And by works, I mean works for you, since none of those options save the town. Now now, no need for that. Why insult drunks, crack addicts, concussion sufferers or people who are possessed by demons? She's just a psycho and a liar.

People should be able to compare their own role pms to the wiki and see how it lines up, whatever side they're on. The differences in the wiki and the real game are too minor to invalidate the overwhelming matching information. I hope people will come to the logical conclusion. To be honest, I don't think that anyone is falling for her nonsense anyway, so there is no point risking the wrath of the hosting gods by trying to be too direct. Speaking of the logical conclusion. Vote: Josie Somehow that went from adorable to nauseating, but congratulations anyway. I might be a little jelly of the pretty gold statue. Maybe... It sounded odd to me when he seemed to change from suspicious to dismissive about the whole Ima self-vote. Still does, but the latest explanation that scum wouldn't bring attention to themselves that way is at least reasonable and might back up the belief that Ima would flip town. I don't feel like I've had good reads on anyone this game, though. There have been a lot of little things that haven't seemed right, but never developed into anything more.

Sure you do. Alas, that isn't what the wiki says about your win condition and you know what, between you and it, I'll trust it more. As for suspicion, shut your murdering mouth about my brothers, we'll learn their actual alignments when you're dead. You've already shown what a liar you are, to think you want us to believe you now. How stupid do you think we are? You remind me of Torgam, he had a mighty roar. We don't actually know that there are any scum left. You want us to believe that Covam was scum, so that would only leave one unaccounted for (if you're not a liar, right?). They could easily be dead and we wouldn't know. What we do know is that we can't win with you alive, especially as you keep killing us. It must have broken your heart when the Donner Party format was revealed, since it came after your attempt to plant a future 'neutral' alibi.

It can't get much worse, can it? I'm losing my whole family and I don't even know if they were good or not, except poor Ima who really didn't do much to make herself look innocent. But wait, that's only 2 night kills, which makes me think someone used theirs on Josie, who had a one shot night kill immunity, according to the wiki. Just further confirms that what it says is true and she is out to kill all of us. If not, maybe someone was blocked? It's something to consider, but that would require the blocker getting that info to us, and I doubt that's possible. Nevertheless, we know what we have to do today, right? In 24 hours, I know where my vote will be going.

I was hoping for anything that might make sense of those three being targeted, but the chart ended up making a mess and startling poor Martin even more than everything normally does. I never figured out why they were targeted, especially if one of the killers was a vigilante. I guess one of them said something that the vig thought was suspicious while the other two said something that someone wanted to shut up, which was what I was looking for and never found. That's two out of three of my vague suspicions. Ding for #3, though the weakest of the bunch. I wonder if it's a coincidence that one of the votes Torgam left was the one for Ellis that was equally as successful as the one for Ima. Lot of potential influence in that jumping around, I just can't tell if that was the purpose of it.

If this is a Donner Party situation as speculated, forever isn't going to be very long for us without a lynch. Even a shot in the dark will be better than the alternative. I will admit that the 'case' against Ima isn't spectacular, but it is all I can see so far. Her vote for herself wasn't funny. The added claim to want to put pressure on someone, while not actually doing that at all wasn't funny either. If she had immediately unvoted in the same post and said "haha, kidding!" it might have seemed silly enough to believe. Coming back later and unvoting made sense, but then to never place another, in violation of the rules? She has said almost nothing since then. I'm not sure what else to think. Lacking anything better, I will again ... Vote: Ima I will be more than happy to come back and change that, if someone can offer a more logical alternative. As for the killers, I will agree that if we have a vigilante, they need to be very careful, there are so few of us that we could end up in an impossible situation before we can do anything to help it.

Oh good, you saw that it was suspicious and even stated a primary reason others cited in their votes. Not sure why you want to try to paint that as "for whatever reason," but I'm not one to judge. Quite the change of opinion there. Suddenly you think it was clear that she was voting as a joke. Ignoring the fact that voting isn't really a joking matter, what changed in 12 hours? Where did you find this sudden insight that you didn't have before? How long do you think we can go without a lynch before all these killers, whatever kind they may be, have killed everyone?

It is terrifying, but I didn't know it did that. I use a plugin called Dark Reader that turns web pages to black and when I started my post I had picked up the entire player list to make a chart and it picked up the images too, so I deleted all of them and the spacing of the text was still weird so I deleted it all and just started typing. I guess it kept something in the formatting that did that. I couldn't tell because the page is dark for me, so it just looks normal. Thank you for letting me know, it definitely isn't intentional and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. If I quote, highlight and press 'remove format', it fixes it. Sorry for the mess.

Ruben, Nadia and Covam... How could we lose 3 in a night when there are so few of us to begin with? That's just impossible to understand. Then no bodies and no alignments. There's a lot going on here. That link above might explain it, I've never encountered that before. Did they have anything in common? Is there a pattern? Looking at yesterday, Ruben voted for Ellis, Nadia voted for Ruben and Covam didn't vote at all. That doesn't seem like much. The only lasting vote for any of them was Nadia's vote for Ruben. Torgam voted and unvoted Ruben. Neither one seemed to have much reason for it, so I'm not sure that helps much either. I'm lost.

It's true, whenever someone asks who is the biggest baby, they always decide it's you. So seriously guys, I voted for Ima thinking she was the only one who had said anything suspicious enough to stand out. I didn't expect you to pile on, but I knew she could unvote if it became necessary, which happened. But that was the weird part, even when she did, the unvote seemed weird. I don't know, but something doesn't feel right there. I don't have anything else and there isn't a lot of time left, so I guess that is where my vote will stand.

I know that any vote we place will potentially make someone think we don't like them and maybe they won't like us as much afterwards, but we have to vote to get through this horrible situation. This just feels like trying to avoid that and stay out of the spotlight. Plus it is contradictory to say you want to see who squirms then vote for yourself. It isn't much to go on, and I'm sorry Ima, but it's all that makes any sense so far. Vote: Ima

As rough as it will be, it's probably a good idea, otherwise we'll never figure out what raider ankles taste like. Once we've narrowed that down, it'll be easy! Still not too sure where to start. You all seem so nice. Someone do something bad, be obvious about it. Please? I'm gonna keep watching for now. You heard me, I'm watching YOU. *growl*