Emmett Ware

Andrew targeted Fabien.

Let's not forget that he was either blocked or didn't target anyone on night 1 as well. They already have, but the target won't know which one blocked them.

I know who you targeted, I tracked you last night. Would you prefer to reveal it, or should I?

This took an odd turn ... *shuffles his deck*

I have to retract my earlier statement. THIS is the funniest thing you've said all game. What an ego. I bet he thinks he's bigger than John Lennon. I like your summary and it allows me to keep my vote on Justin, who Daniel did a good job saving while being a little too obvious about it, despite there being no possible openly visible way he could specifically trust him. I've waited all night hoping there would be a chance that vote would get back on track, but it wasn't likely given the time of day, so I hope you're right and he's the Godfather. Sadly, I don't see how this will even answer the rolemadness question, since we'll only be given his alignment and not any role he may have specifically held (I assume). Whatever the case, I'm going to bed, it's ... well, it isn't late now, it's early tomorrow. This is just "fun" to you, huh? Says a lot. The fact that you were so desperate for it makes me sincerely doubt he'll end up scum, but that is a matter for the future.

But that's the point. You entered into that vote without even explaining why and it pulled several people off Justin. Three before the end of that page alone. You really don't see how that looks? Then you pull out of the vote for Alex, showing it was never serious to begin with, claiming a ridiculous reason. This is about you and your inconsistent voting that only seems to benefit Justin. What does "Justin will be perfectly fine either way" even mean? This is absolutely about him and your relation to him and it stinks. I haven't switched because it feels like you're too eager for it, even though you could have simply kept your own vote in place if you had placed it responsibly. Alex might be vanilla, who knows? By the logic you apply to yourself, it would be incredibly risky for him to make such a claim falsely. As for Justin, before your vote for Alex, which immediately pulled away 3 votes for Justin, he absolutely was on the road to being lynched, yet you say "who was NOT getting lynched," which is an outright lie. And then you push again, desperate for me to cast the deciding vote, as if you know it's wrong, and how would you know that if you weren't scum? I'll check for your wall of babble and town disrupting response later. At least that has been consistent. To think I briefly thought I saw a glimmer of hope that you were improving earlier.

You can't spell anals without, well, a couple of a's. And stuff. It's kind of hilarious you brought this up as in the lost version of my earlier reply, I referred to someone as towniest of town. I am a little sad I didn't remember to say it again. It's like you read my mind ...

You want to take the heat off Justin and put it on Alex. That's going a long way to making me feel less confident in that course of action. I wanted the matter to be discussed for reasons I have previously stated relating to Vincent and the result of targeting him, combined with the vanilla/rolemadness discussion that had gone on. I'm still not happy with Alex's claim and as I've made clear, I will cast that vote if it gets closer to time. Then you can bitch about it tomorrow if it's wrong. Or right. You know you will. I'm sorry, you took that as a review of your overall performance, I only meant recently and in relation to specific claims about yourself. The one you made there was absolutely misleading though, so your improvement was quickly lost. If you lied about the block, it could have been coordinated with Robin to cover some other action on his part. If you're scum, someone else on your team could have discovered that Alex was vanilla and known it would be safe to use that information. Heck, if Alex isn't vanilla, you can't be certain he would have contradicted you, trying not to expose his role, so you still might have at least temporarily gotten away with it. I'm not even saying you're scum, but you aren't the slightest bit confirmed as town. People just need to remember that. I'm also not saying that defending Justin makes you scum, it might just mean you've been misled behind the scenes. It could even be that you're both town and you're still wrong for defending him, basing it on incorrect but luckily correct information. Maybe you're scum and he's town and you're desperate to have an alliance with someone you can use. So many possibilities.

I've said Daniel was disrupting the town from the start, intentionally or not. I've said it so many times, I'm even sick of hearing it now. Sick of living it, too. Alex doesn't instill confidence, but the wavering on the vanilla/rolemadness situation makes my suspicion of him less justified. He's clearly been inactive, but he's said things that made sense in his few posts and it's been enough to make me hesitate. As it is, I'll be around for 10 more hours on and off and will cast the final vote if it is needed. If he turns out scum, I'll still be attacked for voting so late, and if he's town, I'll be attacked for casting the deciding vote, so one way or the other, I get fucked and I didn't even get dinner first. 1. I have reported what I saw. I don't see how you can make this statement and assume Daniel is innocent, since he could easily be lying about the reason he targeted Robin. Is it a coincidence that he claimed to be the only 'confirmed' blocker when nothing has confirmed that at all? Is it a coincidence that he unvoted Alex to try to push me to unvote you and move over to that position? It's the second time he's seemed to defend you for no apparent reason. 3. Basing a lynch on uncertain game mechanics is sloppy, isn't it? Daniel is annoyed that I've called him out as unhelpful and that I voted for him once. While I could be lying about my role, it would be easy to lie about anything in this game. Clearly, people have lied along the way and some of those might not even be malicious but to protect the town. Any point you want to argue could be called a lie with minimal effort. If I had revealed my role first, Robin or Daniel could have lied and used that to appear more trustworthy. I waited, hoping to catch someone in a lie or to confirm their honesty, which was the best thing I could do for the town. It's funny how I keep being attacked for it, but as I said, tracker isn't that helpful, I'm only told one tiny little bit of information without any way to determine what it completely means. Sorry if I missed replying to anything, I had a huge post in progress and lost it when the page reloaded due to clicking a notification. I don't know what I lost and too much was said afterwards for me to try to figure it out. I see something I missed. Yes, Vincent, it's frustrating. This whole game can be summarized by one word and that's it. Or some other F word. As for 15 hours, I can't see us forming a consensus and switching in that time.

Doesn't seem likely, which means I'm wasting my vote by staying here, but I really don't feel good about Alex, despite how suspicious I've been of him, or more specifically the vanilla/rolemadness conflict. There is still time.

Funny, you still seem to be defending Justin. Think I'll see this one out and keep my vote right where it is. I'm not fond of game mechanics based votes, and that is most of what goes against Alex at this time. Inactivity, sure, but now that he's active, he's sounding fairly reasonable. You were doing so well until this. You are not confirmed to be a blocker in any way, just someone who can target others. For all I know, you could have been protecting Robin without stopping them from performing an action, like killing. How's that for a nice alibi? Someone had to kill Jean and with all these actions floating around, it's pretty likely it was someone claiming to be something else already. I only know he didn't target anyone. He could have been obstructed in some way, or he could be the godfather or some other passive role. I will put this offer out there: If someone feels strongly about a potential tracking target, don't say it here, but feel free to PM me the second the day ends and I'll consider it. I have some ideas already, but am open to suggestion. One more thing ... Daniel, your conversation with Fred, if it's accurate, it pretty suspicious on his part. Why does it seem like you've waited until the day is nearing an end before you started putting out potentially useful information? Why has Alex waited until the end to do the same? Frustrating.

Good, thanks!

What is all that racket? Oh, a bandwagon. I was just trying to get some sleep... Unless I can't count, and I literally just woke up, so it's a struggle, Alex already has enough votes to be lynched. No point switching my vote and getting attacked for that, and since I still don't trust Justin, I'll keep it where it is. A quick mechanics question, does the night begin before or after all the actions are in? I'd like to discuss something privately before submitting mine. Oh look, Bob just confirmed that I can count by posting it while I was typing this.

It means that anyone who knows EB Mafia would know better.

Or, he could have told the truth. Who knows? I sure didn't know what to expect, which is yet another reason why I didn't go first. The fact that his claim fits what I knew gives me a little more faith in him, but believe me, it isn't much. Either one of you could be scum and I'm not going to know it unless you'd killed someone in the night. You say you doubt me because I didn't go first, but if I had, you immediately say he would have lied. How does that not make it clear? You just want someone to argue with because, so far in this game, the only thing you've produced is volume, no actual substance. To a very few people, this will be the funniest thing you've said all game.

Don't bother, he's now made it clear that no matter which of us had said it first, he isn't going to believe it.

Weird or not, it is what it is. I can't put it in any other words that wouldn't be quoting Bob, it's just too few words to put any other way. I only have your result to compare it to, so that doesn't help either. As for coordinating, I've only had one private discussion with Vincent and did not discuss this matter at all, since he approached me and I wouldn't have any reason to trust him. Still don't. Oh, and to slightly correct your statement, I wasn't told I didn't see him targeting anyone, I was told he didn't. Full stop.

This was the very first thing I said today. I hinted at my role and then tried to get some advice on how to read Vincent's result without saying so directly. I'm not one for giving away too much, too soon. It's also why I revealed him as who I tracked but not the result, leaving that for him to choose. If he had lied, I would have had the opportunity to confront you on that, but he didn't (as far as I can tell without delving into game mechanics). I felt certain that Joshua would turn up scum, that wasn't a massive prediction of the future. If I hadn't felt that way when I voted, I wouldn't have voted. I don't recall predicting anything else.

I only have two results to go by. I was told that Vincent didn't target anyone and that you targeted Robin. There is no way I can determine if that means that Vincent was blocked or not, but he made a point of saying that he didn't successfully target anyone. which makes it sound like he was. From what I've read, it's a tossup as to how hosts will report those situations, just to avoid giving away too much information, so that isn't a great clue. One of the reasons the Alex claim interested me so much is the possibility that Vincent could be either vanilla or passive. I still don't know. It's a decent enough role, but it doesn't give me much to work with unless I get lucky and target a killer, which isn't exactly likely. I don't see what else I can tell you here, that's all I've got.

That does make sense, thank you.

Vincent. The constant posts from the two of you definitely triggered my night 1 and 2 choices. I am not going to say what the result was for Vincent, I'd rather he share that if he feels so inclined. Possible, sure, but I'm not sure that several scum would vote early and put themselves in a position of being associated with each other in such close proximity. Clearly can't discard any theory, but I don't think it's a particularly strong one. Don't take this the wrong way, but if I was scum, I would have left both you and Vincent alive to continue your fighting, just for the disruption it would do to the days. Assuming neither of you is scum. Neutrals throw the equation off, but that's probably personal bias as I've had bad experiences with them in the past.

Of all the people who shouldn't chastise others for redundancy... Yes, I should be aware of the players and I normally would be, but the walls of text in the first 2 days made that difficult at best. You griped at Vincent for roleplaying a line at the beginning and end of his posts while making massive and usually pointless posts yourself. That is exactly what I meant by not helping. Have you noticed that no one has contradicted that point except you? Is everyone scum out to get you? Think about it. When I knew the day could end without a lynch and saw an opportunity to switch my vote to someone I also suspected, I did what was best for the town. Jean's enthusiasm for voting for Joshua convinced me more than anything, he was so insistent that I assumed he either knew something or was taking a huge risk of being lynched the next day. The more you harp on my vote, the more it sounds like you would have preferred not lynching Joshua. I don't see any way in which I helped him at all, except a quick escort off this planet by firing squad. By your logic, your voting for me is just a way to try to help Justin, so if he is lynched and turns up scum, we should be after you next? I still suspect you (hell, I still suspect EVERYONE), but my night results gave me at least a small reason to doubt that suspicion, so I backed off. I suppose that brings us to the subject I had tried to avoid, my role. Given that I don't think it's major enough to really attract the scum to kill me, I am the town tracker. I tracked you on night 2, you targeted Robin, and on day 2 Robin came in asking if they had been blocked and eventually you said you had. Since that would have been an elaborate setup for the scum to try to pull, I thought you were probably being honest and at least vaguely confirmed as town. With so many forms of blocker now, I'm less convinced, at least one of those is probably scum, but that's still impossible to determine. *day 3. You'll figure it out.

You can keep repeating that until the end of time, but it's the truth, Trenton didn't stand out enough, in their few posts, for me to even know who that was. Peter is the same way, if you need another example. Now please take some time to dig up every vague way in which you believe I should have been aware of them and post it because clearly we're all supposed to observe and remember things in the exact way you do. Some of us don't have time to obsess over every word here. I remember someone who used to do that to the point that they had gone out to dinner and were still monitoring things by phone, much to the detriment of their mental health. I really hope they've put those times behind them, for their own sake. *groan*

Still only obsessed with yourself. Useless as ever. Alex and his no-role/vanilla claim is easily the most disturbing thing of the day, aside from the fact that I was the only one to actually reply to it and when I tried to get anyone else to say anything, it really didn't go anywhere. I'm glad you're finally able to look at it and say something though, it helps me feel a little less crazy thinking it's weird. Oh yes, before he cries foul, Daniel made a post claiming to agree with me, then promptly dropped it and it hasn't come up again, because he's only concerned about himself.

Multiple people said you weren't being helpful. Repeatedly. As for lurking, if my opinion changed, it would be due to the decrease in the Daniel/Vincent show allowing people more opportunity to participate, but I never said I was bothered by lurking, just that it made it hard to get a read on the lurkers. Very different points. You really do thrive on the OMGUS. I sincerely believe that the only reason for both of your votes against me is because of my vote against you and the fact that I kept pointing out that you weren't being helpful. Instead of changing that and being helpful, here we are again. You're not even vaguely making sense now. If you really want to protect Justin, consider that duly noted.