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For those interested, someone made a video report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G067disenfs

Hi all, Coming weekend, December 11 & 12, the DutchBricks Lego group (working on LUG status) is organizing a Lego event in Geleen (the Netherlands). Geleen is easy to reach from Aachen and Belgium as well. We have GBC, technic, Starwars, cars, planes, trains, sales, and much more. Entry is 2,50 Euro pp and tickets can be bought via https://www.dutchbricks.com/ I'll be there with an automated train layout using Mattzobricks firmware. Hope to see you there!

Hi Oky, I guess 'when button is pressed' only triggers on the physical buttons on the hub, not on the remote buttons. Could you try with a specific remote button (or by pressing the physical buttons)? In my experience notes are played through the hub, and sounds are played through the smart device or laptop :( PS: there is a Lego IDEAS contest ongoing until December 8 where everyone can submit their sixth EV3 or Robot Inventor (51515) model.

I was continuing your sentence: I'm wondering whether it'll be a real set, 6 sensors is a bit much.

... It'll be a real set. 6 color sensors just for lights might be a bit of overkill, right? So although it looks really cool, it could be a signal to the community that Lego heard/read about our 'white land rover' wish and topped it with a white mindstorms rover. If they are going this path I hope it will be expansion packs on top of the basic mindstorms set.

I have a question where you might be able to help: I'm looking for the installer file for the 51515 software for Windows (10, 64 bit). The Microsoft store link is blocked on my (employer provided) laptop, but I can install executables. I've found the education Spike prime software, but that's not what I'm after of course. Does any of you have an idea where to get the software? If not, I'll post back the reply from Lego which I hope to receive in 4-7 working days... Update 19-10-2020: the Spike education software works without the need to change firmware on the brick.

Two questions: 1) I guess you mean 32Kb memory? 32 Mb seems to be a lot if you're not using media. 2) could anyone indicate the difference in functionality between pybricks and the Python supported from the Spike education software? It seems different, so where do the features (or programming approach) differ? Counting down the days till I can pick up my 51515 set :D

Hi Jim, great review! One question though, did you try programming through Python? Is this done using the spike education windows/mac app? Or are there other options for the 51515, like MS Visual studio code integration?

A user commented on this video starting that he did so without problems: I would need doing it the other way round (spike firmware on the 51515 hub) if there won't be official Python support, since the spike hub has it through the education software.

Any update Jim? I'm getting really curious!!!

Earlier in this topic there was a lively discussion on whether the new mindstorms kit is actually better than the EV3 so it's not an absolute fact.

I guess 5 to 7 years as previously with the EV3. The thing is, unlike Technic models which sometimes are only produced for one or two years, the mindstorms set is the theme itself. And as they want this theme (in an education and home version usually) it'll always be produced until a new version comes out.

BTW: I just saw this video which shows and discussed a 'leaked' official video of the 51515. Looks good!!! Especially the fact that the motors are not in teal is reassuring for me, seems to have more of a white/grey/black emphasis than I got from the first pictures.

That's very positive news from both of you!!! I'll be keeping a close eye on the lego.com website, and please post here when you review is online @Jim! :D

I'm really waiting for this set to be released. As they said early Q4 in my mind this means October 1, but I guess I would need to wait a bit longer. Do you guys have any idea when the set will be available to order in the Lego shop???

Hi all, I'm not sure if this belongs here, but I'm looking for local lego enthusiasts to meet up in a corona safe way. And as I figured others might be looking for local lego buddies as well we might find each other in this topic. I'm 36M and am located in the south of the Netherlands, and live in Sittard. I would love to meet up and come and see your lego collection, or show my mainly technic moderate collection. My interests are technic, train and robotics/automation. Alternatively we could consider virtual meetups with video on s.t. we are not geographically bounded. Is anyone interested?

Hi Lok24, I found this post/list rather useful: https://racingbrick.com/powered-up-code-block-guide-full/ Hi Tcm0, What documentation are you referring to? The pyBricks one? I would be interested in the lower level Python documentation.

And regarding the 'non' replaceable batteries: there seems to be a solution with Lego's "large hub battery" (#45610): https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-technic-large-hub-battery/4561

Any idea how much space there is? Would like to put some custom sound files for instance. But also for logging this is relevant.

I think Daisy chaining and the screen are indeed gone. But why would data logging and live debugging not be possible? You can log the data through Python locally on the brick which is then accessible through your coding environment, for example Microsoft Visual Studio Code. Via your coding environment you can also live debug your program as you can have terminal access to the brick.

I read the post and news announcement a bit more carefully and this passage intrigues me: Distance sensor – detects obstacles, programmable LED ‘eyes’ and an integrated 6-pin adaptor for third-party sensors, boards and DIY hardware. Does anyone have an idea what is exactly meant here? If I interpret this correctly, does this mean that the distance sensor acts as a 'hub' to connect third party sensors to? Good to read that this is still somehow possible, looking forward to the future options... Also read early Q4 and autumn as a release date so August seems a bit optimistic. :(

You're both right, haven't thought of that one yet, nice! And the gyro in the spike hub is on 3 axes, right? That gives options! I know everyone expected an EV3++, including myself, and the 51515 is not quite that, but I'm starting to see the advantages. 6 dual ports, embedded gyro, 4 motors included (ev3 had 3 including two very large ones that only made sense in humanoids), scratch and micro python programming, ... Now I'm mainly curious how far below the retail price it will go, seeing that the Liebherr is down 20-25% I have hopes this one will go under 300€.

I'm not sure what you mean. AVCompos meant that you can attach max 6 items, motors or sensors does not matter anymore, where the EV3 had a limit of 4 motors and 4 sensors.

Hi Jonas, Hard to debug this remotely, but Windows 7 Pro should not be the cause (in essence). Some things that come to mind: Did you connect the EV3 brick via a USB cable? Are you sure the computer found it? Your firewall might be blocking the connection. Does your EV3 brick detect the connection? (USB, bluetooth or wifi, not sure which one you use) (PS: not sure if this is the best topic to continue in to debug your issue, might be best to open a new topic if the problem persists) Good luck!

I would check again, you received a reply rather quickly...