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I'm pretty set with Vote: Louisa Hammond I'll see you all at the trading post to pick up new crewmembers and a few barrels of rum!
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OK then. And both you and Timothy being scum made it easy for you to follow my lead to get into the town good books.
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That's true, but then Timothy and Louisa pulled a big gambit on Day Three. Between all that and you sassing Louisa and getting cross with me, none of this makes any sense. I want to get off Captain Bob's wild ride. It means nothing, there's nobody to talk to on a writeboard anymore. Ah what the hell, the worst I can do is not lose. Unvote: Henry Ogden Vote: Louisa Hammond
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On the one hand, you're lawyering the rules. On the other hand, you're voting waaay before the rules say you're allowed to. I think there's a lot of convention in the rules that isn't explicitly stated (we have so far no evidence of third parties, for instance, even though the rules say there may be one) She's referring to a generic 1:1 situation. I think you're misrepresenting her words. You're saying that the scum could block and kill at the same time, and also say I could jailkeep myself to eternity. Well, that wouldn't work if I vote wrong and I get blocked/killed - that's a roadmap to scum victory. If I vote wrong, the only draw is when I block the other person to infinity, rather than jailkeeping myself. I think you're trying to trick me into voting for Louisa. To borrow Henry's language, we can draw or we can win, and I want to win. Vote: Henry Ogden
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I'm getting a bit tired too Henry. So evidently Joseph and Malcolm were both town, so Timothy was a bit prescient saying there could only be four scum... leaning on inside knowledge by the looks of it. I think Timothy was scum, but he wanted to avoid the optics of hammering Jack - by my notes Joseph was actually the one with the hammering vote. I know I'm not scum, and cooperating with Louisa has been productive, and there is one person in the end who has flown under the radar to an extent. There's another explanation for that. The janitor could be a day thing, or maybe the scum was allowed to do two things at once. Feeling a bit Vera Claythorne at the moment.
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I'm fine ending the day early too.
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Let me be Henry: "Gosh, I'm still alive today??? Wow" and "If we clam up the scum win". Timothee could indeed hammer Jack if he wanted to. I don't even know. Vote: Jack Alden Why are we making post-hoc rationalizations? All that matters is there are 2 scum left and we need to find them.
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In case I was wrong?? She had already said there probably wouldn't be a night kill so I didn't think it much mattered whether I told her my target or not. Looking at who refused to hammer whom yesterday, I reckoned the scum team was either Tim & Jack or Joe & Louisa, and I'm inclined to think Joseph is town. On the other hand, Timothy & Louisa is consistent with Louisa insisting on blocking Timothy, but on the other other hand Henry pointed out some decent reasons Louisa might be town I'm still inclined to think Jack is town because of how he handled Thomas. I'm bewildered
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Probably scum tried their best to lynch Joseph and were mad when it didn't work. So that's you, Louisa and Henry. But you were all free last night, so I think Jack was saved. Though Louisa did pass me a message in a bottle, something about scum probably not wanting to kill last night anyway to throw confusion over everything. Louisa sort of did insist on blocking Timothy, but on the other hand I did tell her I was blocking Jack....
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As Jack has pointed out, each of you thinks Jack & Louisa are the scum, and each of you has the power to change your vote to effect a lynch. Why in the name of Tia Maria aren't you doing so? Stand up for what you believe in, for goodness sake. and stop being so anti-town. Now I know both of you can't be scum because you'd be jumping to mislynch someone, but come on. Absolutely we can.
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If Joseph is town and Louisa is scum again I ask: who is the other scum?
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I understand your reasons, and Louisa really is my top suspect. If we're looking for somebody without a night action and who has been investigated town, it could just as easily be you as Jack or Joseph. I mean, yeah you did go hard line against Geoffrey but when the Barty lynch happened you went mostly with the flow. Also, this is mylo, so we don't actually have to lynch. Keep that in mind before anyone feels pressured to change their vote.
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Curious text size there Henry... paging @Timothy Dixon, is there anybody out there? Unofficial Vote Count: Jack Alden: 3 (Louisa Hammond, Joseph Finch, Henry Ogden) Joseph Finch: 1 (Timothy Dixon) Louisa Hammond: 2 (Patrick Triggs, Jack Alden)
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But only one of them could be, so Jack, Henry and Joseph can't collectively be a team of two. Are we then to believe Louisa? Then somebody who isn't Louisa or Joseph blocked me, and that leaves you, Jack, and Henry. But it can't be Jack or Henry because they, in addition to Joseph, were investigated town. So it's you. Is this a crappy bus or are you throwing in your hat with Henry's vote for the sake of lynching someone? I think making Joseph walk the plank is at this stage putting the cart far before the horse (or the dinghy before the figurehead?? I don't know how translate metaphors into nautical). As Louisa has pointed out, a mislynch costs us the game and our lives and I think, at this stage, it's more probable that going after Joseph would be to mislynch. I'm going to Vote: Louisa and perhaps I'll take you to the brig tonight. This is why I'm not voting for Joseph.
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Yes, but what are you implying? That Jack and Louisa are scum together and needed to neutralize my block? Not convinced. The fact Nigel watched Timothy the night before last indicates that Timothy's action is consistent with his claim. Are you trying to spin a story up about Timothy? Exactly, (except) 2v2 is a scum win 100% of the time. I dunno, if I had a private investigator claim and public jailkeeper, watcher and blocker claims, I'd go after the one only I knew about. But Geoffrey targeted me, not Thomas, on Night Three. Suggests scum didn't know about the investigator claim. I think it's Louisa + somebody, who is more probably Joseph than Timothy.
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We decided to block you and Joseph, she didn't insist but it covered our bases for scum candidates. I could maaaaaybe countenance Jack being the killer, but someone else had to have blocked me. Then it's Jack and who? That doesn't make sense. Yesterday we thought it was Thomas and Jack, but it's obviously not, because Thomas was town.
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I tried to but it was unsuccessful.
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To elaborate on this further, I think Thomas's accusation against Jack casts more doubt on the former than on the latter, since such an accusation (that seemed to come out of nowhere) can be levied against both town and scum. It seems to have been 24 hours, so I shall Vote: Thomas Chapman
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That's true - but who could have tried to kill him? There's Jack, Louisa, you (Joseph) and Henry whose actions last night are unaccounted for, in that we can't verify she targeted you. That's true, I guess. You're right that the rules navigation charts on this ship are slightly different than what one might expect. If there's a one-shot janitor on board, then who's to say that there aren't other ways of messing with alignments? The imperial who janitored Malcolm could have tailored someone in the previous nights. And it seemed wholly contrived.
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If Malcolm was scum, that means (unless, as Jack pointed out, they were able to janitor Malcolm at the end of the day rather than at night) we have both Joseph and an additional scum. For me, this additional scum could be Jack, Timothy or Louisa but, as Henry points out, having 5 scum out of 15 in the beginning is unbalanced. I don't think Malcolm is scum. For me that means Malcolm (and Joseph) are town or third party, in which case we must cherchez one or two more scum elsewhere. One, if third-party and two if town. Then it's still Jack, Timothy and Louisa, but Thomas comes into it since he is conceivably the blocked scum killer from last night. note to Jack: I am discounting Henry as scum because how vociferously he led the lynch on Geoffrey. note to others: I include Timothy in my lists because, while Nigel did watch him last night, he could have also gone and janitored Malcolm.
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If Joseph were lynchproof, then he wouldn't be dead, would he? He's either a third party, or someone messed with the result.
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Yeah, that was me on advice from Louisa and Jack, in case Malcolm and Joseph weren't the only scum left. That adds up with what Timothy has sent in those little bottles that sometimes appear by my bunk. So Joseph and Malcolm might actually be neither pirate nor soldier? Are you at least allowed to win with us, Joseph? That's true, yes, So then someone other than Thomas or Joseph, whom we blocked, must have done it? But the lack of night kill is a good start.
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That Henry says he wasn't contacted by Thomas after being investigated is strange - by nature of the investigator claim, it is risky to fake and can easily build a network of townies. With Joseph, given the apprehension surrounding the accuracy of the result, I can understand not reaching out. I jailkept Malcolm on Night One. When you resolve night actions you see who targets whom and where there may be conflicts. So if A targets B then that's easy, and if A targets B who targets C, that is also easy. But as host you have to plan for contingencies, where you could have a chain A -> B -> C -> D or a ring A -> B -> C -> A, and these decisions must be made before the game. But there's no precedence of town over scum or vice versa. Who be this strange pirate wench with a mysterious face?
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He was entertaining the theory that Thomas's claim was faked somehow. I know we're on a boat in the sea but this smells like fish. And it was blasé of me to trust a mason claim at face value. As I've said before, it's much more likely that the masons are scum together than Jack and Thomas are scum together, especially now that Thomas has voted for Jack. Vote: Malcolm Langley
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No he should not.