Tyron

@Superkalle Regarding the legal issues, I totally agree. Moon landscape? I love that idea! Or maybe a junkyard I'll try to get in touch with the people who are actually in control of the DbM programme, i.e. who decide what goes into the gallery and what doesn't. Maybe they can clarify this whole issue.

@ Calabar Yes, Lego did provide us with a great tool to express our creativity. Nevertheless, the world isn't black & white, and the good guys are not always the good guys. Let me quote the legal notice found on the Lego website, so that you know what we are talking about here. Lego says: 4. Any communication or material you transmit to the Site by electronic mail or otherwise, including any data, questions, comments, suggestions, or the like is, and will be treated as, non-confidential and non-proprietary. Anything you transmit or post may be used by LEGO A/S or its affiliates for any purpose, including but not limited to reproduction, disclosure, transmission, publication, broadcast, and posting. Furthermore, LEGO A/S is free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how, or techniques contained in any communication you send to the Site for any purpose whatsoever, including but not limited to developing, manufacturing, and marketing products using such information. See what I mean? Anything you send to Lego can by used by Lego in whichever way Lego desires. Let's say a professional designer spends a few months designing an entire new theme world for Lego and that designer wants to suggest this to Lego, hoping to earn some money. So he sends some pictures to Lego by mail. According to the paragraph above Lego would then have the right to produce and sell the theme world without paying the designer a penny. Of course I am aware of the origin of this paragraph. In large companies, these kind of regulations are thought up by the lawyers to protect the company. Because maybe Lego is working on exactly the same idea the designer above sent them. In such a case they want to avoid being sued by that designer. So Lego has a good reason for such a regulation. Bottom line: The fact that Lego claims this right doesn't mean they would really act this way. So unless Lego actually does disrespect copyrights and does use uploaded models I don't want to accuse them of anything. But I don't want to take the risk either when uploading commercial work. So I will continue looking for an alternative solution.

@ Superkalle Thanks for the detailed answer. Yap, listing the element numbers in the summary of the LDDmanager would be a cool feature. Having a Javascript doing all the ordering would be even cooler. I've been thinking about that myself. My approach would be a frameset with a combination of PHP (for parsing the LXFML file) and Javascript (for calling the addBrick function). It should be rather easy, because Lego uses AJAX and doesn't reload the page. So one could keep triggering the Javascript rather fast and simply compare the bricks count in the shopping basket in the end. In case I find time for some tests I'll let you know the results. I agree, the models at Lego aren't really that good. But they do have their regulations, so sending a bunch of parts won't work. And building another model from 300 parts or more will take more time than programming the shopping script mentioned above. I prefer spending my time on long-term solutions. @ Calabar This is not about sharing, it's about me not wanting to transfer all rights to my designs to Lego, which is exaclty what happens if you upload to the DBM gallery (just read the rules). If you upload a model, Lego has the right to sell it, produce it or use it in any other way without paying you a penny. If I share my work then I want to decide how and with whom I do that. There is a big difference in me uploading my designs or somebody else. If I upload my designs then I agree to transferring all rights to Lego. If Lego (or somebody else) uploads my models then it's copyright infringement, i.e. illegal. So my precautions do make sense. Personally, I believe this silly copyright regulation actually is the reason why there are so few models in the Lego gallery and why (almost) none of them are of a professional quality. What they are demanding from their paying customers simply is outrageous!

@Calabar It's not just a question of entering 2 codes or only 1. If I use LDDmanager I get a link to bricklist.com. There I can find the design number, which I can enter at lego.com. Then I must choose the right color. Talking about a dozen models with more than 3000+ lego parts in total that's too much extra work, which I would like to avoid. Ideally, I still want to order through "Designed by Me". But their guidelines are tough. You should read them. No crap models allowed. The reason is easy: Lego doesn't make money on this service, or at least not much. The concept is to give their own designers new ideas and to have additional models to sell through the gallery without putting their own design work into them. So Lego is not interested in selling in any case. They are only interested in good models. Regarding sharing , I knew the question would come :-) There are two reasons I don't want to share: First of all, I'm a professional designer and the models shall indeed be sold later. Secondly, I don't like Lego's mentality of stealing ideas just because I am ordering some parts. Imagine your paint supplier would only sell you oil paint if you would give him the copyright to the picture you paint with them. That would be rediculous! Lego should have the gallery as an option for those who wish to share, but the customer should not be forced to do so. @legolijntje As I said above, LDDmanager doesn't supply a list of Lego numbers, only Bricklist numbers, which are no good for ordering at PAB.

@ Calabar Lego parts have a design number, which is just the shape, not the color, and an element number which is the exact part, i.e. shape plus color. Example: Go to http://shop.lego.com/pab and enter the element number 4211477 in the extended search. It displays a medium grey lamp holder. So if you have a list of element numbers ordering through PAB is rather fast. Thus what I'm looking for is a program that creates a summarized list of element numbers from a LDD4 model. ... or a way to order "rubbish" (= dismanteled model) directly through "Designed by Me" without any moderation.

@Calabar Thanks for the answer. The lxfml file contains all the element numbers I need, but it doesn't add them up. So I would need to write a program that does this. Yap, that's one option. But I'm still looking for a better/more comfortable solution first. You ordered a dismanteled model through "Designed by Me"? According to what it says on the Lego website this is not possible. They only allow "serious" models and explicitly say one should order spare parts through PAB. Any model not passing their guidelines/moderation will be rejected, i.e. will not be delivered. If this does work, i.e. if they deliver the parts even though the model doesn't make it to their gallery, I would be happy to pay a few bucks more. It would simply save so much time. Does anyone else have experience with ordering dismanteled models or parts collections through "Designed by Me"?

Hi guys, I'm new to Eurobricks, so please apologize in case I have overlooked a thread that already answers my question. My problem: I want to order models I constructed in LDD4 without these models appearing in Lego's public gallery, especially because all the rights will then be transferred to Lego. The only solution seems to be to order through PAB (pick a brick). Fine, but how do I create a parts list with all the lego parts numbers required? Any helpful suggestions? Thanks, Tyron PS: What I tried so far: Lego hotline: Had no clue, didn't call back as promised. LDD Manager: Great tool, but only provides BrickLink numbers (and BrickLink only provides design numbers, but no element numbers). Converting LDD to LDR, hoping that some other program does the job: No conversion tool worked. As I read on the Web this seems to be a difficult task.