Post Apocolyptic Western Waterfall Ambush Diorama

[SirNadroj]

Hey everyone! *sweet*

So, you've probably seen my post-apoc war ship. Well, I've dug deeper into the 'post-apoc' theme and said to myself "What other themes could be intertwined?" since most of the stuff out there is 'spacey'. Why not western? So I put this baby together, and I used those AFOL techniques that some of you don't like! :-P As you can tell, I built the waterfall, basically on it's side, so the studs go to the right. There's barbed wire, and quite a few dangerous looking weapons set up, including my favorite: the Barrel Surprise! ;-) The figures are based on 'cowboys and indians' so the humans are cowboys (or bandits, for that matter) and the robots are indians. I tried to make their canoe look as post-apoc as possible, by adding chains and a turrent! :-D

Look out indians!

Thanks guys ~ and I promise my next one will have a walrus! ;-) Here's the MOC page: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/39381

[Chuck]

I like it, but the waterfall needs more white to give it the appearance of a waterfall, and the "Native Americans" don't really look Post Apoc at all. However, if you labeled it as "Techwest" instead of "Post-Apoc", then you would hit the nail on the head ;-)

-Chuck

Edited October 18, 2007 by Chuck

[Starwars4J]

Nice job, I've always loved that barbed wire technique (I originally wanted to make a small base that incorporated that back in '05 but wasn't near my parts :'-( ).

The barrel was done nicely, but I agree that the waterfall needs work. You might want to check Norro's Entrance to the Caves MOC for a really beautiful one.

And I have to agree about the indians, it looks like Terminator met Exo Force :-D Even with the arms and legs I can't get the "crappy skellie" image out of my head :-P Very vibrant scene though!

[Norro]

You might want to check Norro's Entrance to the Caves MOC for a really beautiful one.

Cheers!

Actually the skellie-exoforce combo is my faviourite part. Taking two elements I don't care for and making something neat. Classic lego!

Good work and God Bless,

Nathan

[Asuka]

Techno-Cowboys? Robo-Indians? Are you crazy?! *sing*

I really have to say: I *wub* it....

Although the waterfall looks indeed a little statical, maybe a rock in its middle with some

trans clear or white could help here, and some swirls where the water hits the bottom,

but the overall idea and conception of your work

[Lt. Col. Thok]

Very nice for a small area! Are you going to make a trio of post-apoc vignettes like you did with the WWII stuff?

[Brick Miner]

i love the concept... you're definitely a thinker aren't you ;-)

i've always liked the idea of taking the western setting and mixing in other genres. though, somehow LEGO builders have killed the "western meets sci-fi" theme for me, with this thing we call "techwest." it's far too spacey for me - consequently, i don't like much. though, i've read some cool "western meets sci-fi" stories in comic books ;-)

however, i do love the concept you have here... it's really fun. "post-apoc western", how cool ???

and i like how you have approached it. it's a little cartoony, and that's what i like.

though for this one, you really busted out the non-SYSTEM building techniques, didn't you - im having a hard time appriciating this one. those minifig hands really need to stay in their torsos :-X

- BM

[Chuck]

Something I don't get: Why do you refer to using hands not on a minifig as an "AFOL Technique"?

-Chuck

[SirNadroj]

Thanks for the feedback, guys! The waterfall could use sdome white or transparent... :-$

Something I don't get: Why do you refer to using hands not on a minifig as an "AFOL Technique"?

Something I don't get: Who this question is aimed to, me or Brick Miner. :-P

Oh, and I deleted your comment on flickr, but I think you re-posted it, am I right? Please don't bust my chops like that.

Edited October 18, 2007 by SirNadroj

[Corvus]

SN, you really release these in waves! :-P

I like it. The waterfall does look a bit static, but other than that, it's fine. I have some other small gripes, like the barbed wire not quite looking like barbed wire until I read it was, but... It's great, you have a real talent here. :-)

I feel so pathetic now, I've onl posted about two MOCs... :'-( Soon to be three, though. :-P

[Chuck]

What, "I don't think this looks like it would appear in a post-apocolyptic world", referring to the "native americans". How is that "busting your chops" :-|

The question mentioned was directed at you.

-Chuck

Edited October 18, 2007 by Chuck

[Corvus]

What, "I don't think this looks like it would appear in a post-apocolyptic world", referring to the "native americans". How is that "busting your chops" :-|

The question mentioned was directed at you.

-Chuck

Not to try to tell you what to do here, Chuck, but isn't this the type of thing you apologised for? The rolled eyes smilie isn't very helpful here, either. If you're not trying to be rude here, it does look like it. We can't always understand what you mean here. :-)

[SirNadroj]

What, "I don't think this looks like it would appear in a post-apocolyptic world", referring to the "native americans". How is that "busting your chops" :-|

The question mentioned was directed at you.

-Chuck

Because you reposted it after I deleted it. Take a hint, buddy! |-/

The answer to your question: 'Because I said so!' :-P

And you're right, Mr. M!

Now, I'll not have anymore of this arguing. Chuck, please, if you don't have any CONSTRUCTIVE things to say, don't say anything. You said 'It doesn't fit in the post-apoc' theme. Well, EXPLAIN HOW I can make it better, like you said about the waterfall. Plus, I said this is post-apoc WESTERN so next time read the descrpition before you critisize it! (The wierd thing is that I don't say anything about your things, but you insist on saying things about mine. I'd return the favor, but I'm bigger than that.)

Edited October 19, 2007 by SirNadroj

[Corvus]

(The wierd thing is that I don't say anything about your things, but you insist on saying things about mine. I'd return the favor, but I'm bigger than that.)

That may be slightly more subtle, but didn't you just do that? :-/

Just trying to avoid an argument between you two. :-)

[john cleese]

this is really neat Sir nadroj! I love the life and action of this epic scene. I'm having fun imagining the rest of this world and how this battle plays out.

There are so many great things about this, that I just don't know where to start. I usually don't like minifig hands being used in mocs. I find its an over used technique, especially for levers and controls, and they often stand out too much. Here they make sense and in this array they aren't too noticable individually either. They would certainly discourage me from trying to get up on that ledge. I really like the barrel surprise, it instantly captured my attention. The canoe is great. I think it looks very post-apoc, mainly because its a canoe. You have some good gun designs in there. My favorite is the chain gun on the ledge. The cacti are a nice detail as well. What i like most of all though is the idea. WW meets post-apoc, very original.

Now one thing i dont care for is the red. I think it may have been to give it that custom cartoony look but it kind of looks like you ran out of orange. I also think that ledge could've blended into the cliff or canyon better using some inverts. Overall its another excelent moc. Never stop building sir nadroj, you have a gift. *y* *y*

BTW why hasn't anyone mention how dumb it is these guys are about to go over the waterfall in a canoe? Don't they know what their doing? :-P

[SirNadroj]

this is really neat Sir nadroj! I love the life and action of this epic scene. I'm having fun imagining the rest of this world and how this battle plays out.

There are so many great things about this, that I just don't know where to start. I usually don't like minifig hands being used in mocs. I find its an over used technique, especially for levers and controls, and they often stand out too much. Here they make sense and in this array they aren't too noticable individually either. They would certainly discourage me from trying to get up on that ledge. I really like the barrel surprise, it instantly captured my attention. The canoe is great. I think it looks very post-apoc, mainly because its a canoe. You have some good gun designs in there. My favorite is the chain gun on the ledge. The cacti are a nice detail as well. What i like most of all though is the idea. WW meets post-apoc, very original.

Now one thing i dont care for is the red. I think it may have been to give it that custom cartoony look but it kind of looks like you ran out of orange. I also think that ledge could've blended into the cliff or canyon better using some inverts. Overall its another excelent moc. Never stop building sir nadroj, you have a gift. *y* *y*

BTW why hasn't anyone mention how dumb it is these guys are about to go over the waterfall in a canoe? Don't they know what their doing? :-P

Thanks Mr. Cleese! *sweet* I didn't have any slopes in dark orange, so I used red, but I did my research and found that in the west there are plenty of red rocks ~ maybe not such a perfect rec, but it'd what I had on hand! ;-)

Those Mecha-Indians don't see the falls coming! ;-)

Oh, and thanks Dr. Phil.... I mean Mr. M! ;-) (I like Dr. Phil!) ;-)

Edited October 19, 2007 by SirNadroj

[Corvus]

Oh, and thanks Dr. Phil.... I mean Mr. M! ;-) (I like Dr. Phil!) ;-)

Heh, Dr. Phil. Maybe Dr. M? :-P

Maybe you two need to settle this with a MOC-off. ;-)

[SirNadroj]

Heh, Dr. Phil. Maybe Dr. M? :-P

Maybe you two need to settle this with a MOC-off. ;-)

I'm game! :-P But a MOC-off to prove that Chuck was wrong? We already know he was in the wrong! ;-)

Edited October 19, 2007 by SirNadroj

[Corpreal363]

Just Like Mad Max! :-D

[Corvus]

I'm game! :-P But a MOC-off to prove that Chuck was wrong? We already know he was in the wrong! ;-)

There you go again! |-/ :-P

I meant you two need to settle your differences. ;-)

[Starwars4J]

You guys are both acting like children...

Hey l2k, remember this? Remember how you've done the "I'm sorry and it'll never happen again" thing every single time? Why don't you ever stick to what you say, is it always just to get out of trouble? Just to "yes" people to death? I mean honestly, he has a point, if you don't like something, say why. Saying "I don't like this" isn't constructive...it's rude. Just like last time...

I apologize to all the members as a whole, for just not being the good member I should be. For instance, I may think that I am "all that" because I have a way with building well and have some good designs. But that is not being a good member, being a good member is helping other members

Does this look like you're helping? I mean technically that comment was on flickr, and not here, but it still wasn't helpful...

and the "Native Americans" don't really look Post Apoc at all

Instead of just saying "this isn't [insert theme here]", why not suggest ways to make it more post-apoc? What's wrong with the indians? Is it that they're robots? Is it their construction? Is it that they're indians at all?

Now guys, this isn't a place to argue, so I just suggest that we respect each other and just try to comment on the MOC.

Oh, and I think when he said "AFOL" technique, he just meant "advanced technique", which it is for the reason BM stated, hands weren't meant to be used that way :-P

[Chuck]

I'm game! :-P But a MOC-off to prove that Chuck was wrong? We already know he was in the wrong! ;-)

How was I in the wrong? You can't tell someone that their opinions are wrong. BTW, I know you want to be like your heroes Hinkley and Sinner, but you can't settle everything with MOC-offs.

-Chuck

[Chuck]

On the contrary, SW4J, I don't clearly remember what I posted on Flickr due to the fact that he rudely deleted my replies. On that note, this is Eurobricks, not Flickr, so this really isn't the place to discuss it anyways. Sometimes, saying "Add this" doesn't help. The thing is, I know I apologized, but it isn't always my fault. I know I apologized for past actions, but I am also sick and tired of being treated like crap. It's because of this that i have recently been contemplating leaving this site all together.

-Chuck

Edited October 19, 2007 by Chuck

[Starwars4J]

On the contrary, SW4J, I don't clearly remember what I posted on Flickr due to the fact that he rudely deleted my replies. Sometimes, saying "Add this" doesn't help. The thing is, I know I apologized, but it isn't always my fault. I know I apologized for past actions, but I am also sick and tired of being treated like crap.

-Chuck

Sick and tired of being treated like crap? When were you treated like crap?

And if he deleted your comments, which he felt were just you being mean to his MOC, why would you repost it? He obviously didn't want them there...I would like to hear where you've been treated like crap so much though.

And to be fair I did go on about you BOTH acting like children, his "we both know Chuck was wrong ;-)" wasn't exactly nice or mature either...

[SirNadroj]

You guys are both acting like children...

Hey l2k, remember this? Remember how you've done the "I'm sorry and it'll never happen again" thing every single time? Why don't you ever stick to what you say, is it always just to get out of trouble? Just to "yes" people to death? I mean honestly, he has a point, if you don't like something, say why. Saying "I don't like this" isn't constructive...it's rude. Just like last time...

Does this look like you're helping? I mean technically that comment was on flickr, and not here, but it still wasn't helpful...

Instead of just saying "this isn't [insert theme here]", why not suggest ways to make it more post-apoc? What's wrong with the indians? Is it that they're robots? Is it their construction? Is it that they're indians at all?

Now guys, this isn't a place to argue, so I just suggest that we respect each other and just try to comment on the MOC.

Oh, and I think when he said "AFOL" technique, he just meant "advanced technique", which it is for the reason BM stated, hands weren't meant to be used that way :-P

Thanks for summing it up, SW4J!

Now please, let's stop this and get back to my MOC. ;-) I took the time to photograph it, photoshop it, and this is what I get, and it's both our faults because believe it or not I've got a short temper and I don't take that from most people!

Can't we be friends Chuck? I'm offering you my hand right now: stop this dispute and everything in the future. I've got enough real problems in my life, I don't need virtual ones to! So what do you say? *sweet* This is geting 100% out of hand.

Edited October 19, 2007 by SirNadroj