Post Apocolyptic War Ship MOC

[SirNadroj]

Hey everyone!

After being inducted into the 'Builder's Lounge' I found that they were hosting a triathilon contest ~ build three MOCs of different themes. I have been a huge fan of the post-apocolyptic theme that I decided to build something in that category. But I have seen many nice land-vehicles and tanks, things like that. I felt that it'd be unique if I built a small war ship using those (in my opinon) stupid viking ship hulls. Let me tell you, utilizing those hull peices was tricky! ;-) As you can probably tell, I've stepped up my photography by creating a new set-up for taking pictures as well as playing around with photoshop! ;-)

Thanks for looking, and here's the MOC page: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/39174

[Starwars4J]

Not bad, but I'd like to see a little less brown. I'm aware the post apoc thing means to have some brown, but it doesn't mean everything's made out of wood. Things need to look cobbled together, and a wooden ship doesn't give me that impression.

Also what's the propulsion like? Could we get a pic of the back? I like all the guns though, but the red could be played up a little more

[Lt. Col. Thok]

As always, a nice job, Nadroj. I agree with SW4J, though. Use a little less brown.

[SirNadroj]

Thanks for the feedback! *sweet*

I agree with SW4J, though. Use a little less brown.

Well, I did think brown should be the main colour, but I added as much black as a can, usually for the details (antennas, guns, etc.). Too late now. :-P

Hey, I'm happy with it! X-D It is my first in the theme. ;-)

[Starwars4J]

Well just remember that post-apoc means things aren't coordinated. Like those two red reverse slopes? Make one red and another bley. Make have a roof dark bley. Make a few of the side panels black. Throw some chains and oil cans around the bottom, etc. Basically think of what this was made from, and how it would've been modified in an end-of-world scenario

[SirNadroj]

Well just remember that post-apoc means things aren't coordinated. Like those two red reverse slopes? Make one red and another bley. Make have a roof dark bley. Make a few of the side panels black. Throw some chains and oil cans around the bottom, etc. Basically think of what this was made from, and how it would've been modified in an end-of-world scenario

Good point. X-D But I probably wouldn't like it if it wasn't coordinated! :-D That's just me ~ everything needs to be perfectly symmetrical! ;-) But chains... that's what I forgot! I knew I had to put em' in there, but it slipped my mind!

This was originally a tank. The hull was flipped uspide down and the treads were on the bottom. Would have been cool, but it was a serious pain in my megabloks! ;-)

[Chuck]

...I'm aware the post apoc thing means to have some brown...

Thats not really true. Post-apoc can be anything that you see fit. Mostly darker colors though.

I like the junker look of it (could use a sail barge sail though :-P ), but the figs don't really appear to be post apoc at all. They look more like a bunch of cyborgs :-/

-Chuck

[Hinckley]

... the figs don't really appear to be post apoc at all. They look more like a bunch of cyborgs :-/

They actually look like mutants to me, which is fitting for post-apoc. Well though out, Sir Nadroj :-)

I like this a lot Sir Nadroj, I always like your stuff, you have a unique style that I enjoy a lot. I agree that it could do with a little less symmetry. I used to insist on symmetry as well, but my new goal is to be assymetrical. I know that's not a good reason to do anything, just to do it, but I'm trying to break the habit and see where it leads me.

Anyway, I think it is great regardless, and if it was produced by LEGO I would definitely pick up a copy. Nice job, thanks for sharing. *sweet*

[Starwars4J]

Thats not really true. Post-apoc can be anything that you see fit. Mostly darker colors though.

Well I know it's not a requirement of post-apoc, but it's common sense to have SOME brown. All bley/dark bley just looks like a poorly designed regular vehicle, not like

"hey, we need something for support here but we're out of metal!"

"Crap...just use that log over there, it'll have to do"

Which I feel embodies the spirit of post apoc

[Siegfried]

Congrats on being invited to join Builders Lounge. Are there any other members on EB?

Not bad, but I'd like to see a little less brown.

Yep, I'm with J here! This is a great MOC and probably my favourite of yours for a while. *wub* But the brown is a bit much, especially in the guns. The bridge looks so freakily cool! *sweet*

The crew are a bit freaky for my liking too, but I supect that is a design choice. Your idea of an apocalypse sure is apocolyptic!

[SirNadroj]

, but the figs don't really appear to be post apoc at all. They look more like a bunch of cyborgs :-/

-Chuck

I'm not sure I know what you mean by that. They look really post-apoc to me, maybe you're just disagreeing for the sake of being disageeable. :-/ I thought they should be a mix of robots/creatures. It is the end of the world, nobody is gonig to look like they stepped out of a beauty salon. :-P

They actually look like mutants to me, which is fitting for post-apoc. Well though out, Sir Nadroj :-)

I like this a lot Sir Nadroj, I always like your stuff, you have a unique style that I enjoy a lot. I agree that it could do with a little less symmetry. I used to insist on symmetry as well, but my new goal is to be assymetrical. I know that's not a good reason to do anything, just to do it, but I'm trying to break the habit and see where it leads me.

Anyway, I think it is great regardless, and if it was produced by LEGO I would definitely pick up a copy. Nice job, thanks for sharing. *sweet*

Thanks! *sweet*

Congrats on being invited to join Builders Lounge. Are there any other members on EB?

Yep, I'm with J here! This is a great MOC and probably my favourite of yours for a while. *wub* But the brown is a bit much, especially in the guns. The bridge looks so freakily cool! *sweet*

The crew are a bit freaky for my liking too, but I supect that is a design choice. Your idea of a apocalypse sure is apocolyptic!

Thanks! I think there are a few other members from here in the Builder's Lounge. I think chuck, ApophisV... there might be more. I'm not sure! X-D

[Lt. Col. Thok]

I believe that I have another bone to pick, Nadroj. Wouldn't a post-apoc ship be a little more.....ramshackle? Other than that, Kudos!

[SirNadroj]

I believe that I have another bone to pick, Nadroj. Wouldn't a post-apoc ship be a little more.....ramshackle? Other than that, Kudos!

Well, thats what everyone else has been saying. ;-)

Again, this is my first MOC in the theme, but future post-apoc MOCs will certainly be, well, what you guys said! X-D

[Asuka]

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[Brick Miner]

wow... im really impressed with this... probably the most refreshing MOC i have seen in a while. i love the idea of concept building, and that is exactly what you have done here. it actually reminds me a lot of another high concept idea i have... a "captain planet" style industry/pollution sub-theme to city. i can't say quite why it reminds me of that, as the two concepts are very different... but i think this MOC has the "feeling" i was imagining for the industry/pollution.

BTW, *wub* *wub* *wub* i love this, i can't say it enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!

your figs are excellent... especially the brain, so creative !!! i can imagine it's a strange world they live in. the imagery im getting from them is very strong, as there is a lot of character behind them. they paint a complex story just with their visual appearance.

i can't believe you are getting so much criticism here... the only thing i don't like is the brick built slope in the front... i like the overall shape it gives the boat, but i don't think it looks right next to the one piece hull.

i think maybe people are getting caught up (SW4J and chuck ;-) ) because they have a pre-conceived notion of what "post apocalyptic" means to them... i think the genre is up to interpretation. so for me, instead of placing these into a prior PA story and setting, im imagining a world of their own. its very powerful.

i have to say, that i haven

[Starwars4J]

i can't believe you are getting so much criticism here... the only thing i don't like is the brick built slope in the front... i like the overall shape it gives the boat, but i don't think it looks right next to the one piece hull.

i think maybe people are getting caught up (SW4J and chuck ;-) ) because they have a pre-conceived notion of what "post apocalyptic" means to them... i think the genre is up to interpretation. so for me, instead of placing these into a prior PA story and setting, im imagining a world of their own. its very powerful.

Well X-D

It's not so much that there is a pre-conceived notion (other than there was a normal world, then some catastrophe struck leaving civilization in ruin), but rather that too much of anything is something to be careful of. Brown is fine, hell, a lot of brown is fine, however you always want a little bit of accent. Not to mention that some of it physically wouldn't be able to work (a wood gun would splinter to pieces).

I by no means want to give the impression that I don't like it, as I said in my first post I do, but isn't that part of what this is for? To share ideas, discuss reasons and building techniques, and to improve? I know I, for one, welcome criticism if it isn't malicious...

I'd still love to see the propulsion system though, SirNadroj :-P

[Brick Miner]

I know I, for one, welcome criticism if it isn't malicious...

ya, your right... but thats not it, because i gave criticism too ;-)

i guess for this particular MOC, i wasn't reading the "wow" "wow" "wow" responses that i feel when i look at it. again sirnadroy, i love this. and it's not often im this impressed with a LEGO creation... and its not often i think other's MOCs are better than my own :-P X-D but this one hits the mark. in fact, the only other MOC in which i remember feeling this touched was TheBrickster's Putrid Creek Mill. again, better than mine.

but ya, i definitely feel it's more deserving than a "not bad" ( ;-) SW4J) and im not saying you should throw the critz out the window, but i think you should hear the other end of it too - the praise. because i for one, would love to see you encouraged by the community, and would definitely love to see you expand on this concept, just as it is. your a real artist, with a vision of a great world here - i would hate to see your vision compromised.

as for the "too much brown" comments... i don't mind it at all. maybe cause im a western fan :-D but no, really, i think it looks like rust, not wood. especially since it's reddish-brown - i think it works.

and to express again how much i love this... this is only the second MOC i've seen that i would actually build myself, given the piece list (hint, hint, hint). the first MOC in which i thought this was TheBrickster's (one mentioned above).

so, can we expect to see more ???

- BM

[SirNadroj]

Wow Brick Miner, you're feedback means a lot! X-D Which techniques of mine don't you like? The unorthadox ones? ;-)

I guess everyone's entitled to their opinon, but I guess I'm breaking the sterotype barrier when it comes to post-apoc colour schemes! :-P

Builder's Lougne: http://builderslounge.proboards80.com/index.cgi ;-)

Edited October 15, 2007 by SirNadroj

[Batbrick]

Another great MOC Sir Nadroj, I *wub* this warship! I am also a huge fan of Post-Apoc, and I think this really gives off that vibe *y* , my only criticisms are that it could look a lot less symetrical, and that some out of place colours could be used to make it look more thrown together. Maybe add a few chains hanging off the side would look better too.

These are minor criticisms though, and I think you have done another excellent job on this, the other guys are just jealous! X-D

TTFN! >:-)

[Asuka]

:-D but no, really, i think it looks like rust, not wood.

That

[SirNadroj]

the other guys are just jealous! X-D

TTFN! >:-)

Yeah, that's it, they're jealous! :-P ............ ;-) Nah, they just have their own opinons. But I know you're kiddin'! X-D

[Brick Miner]

Which techniques of mine don't you like? The unorthadox ones? ;-)

well... i admit i haven't taken the time to review all your creations, but for example, in your broke spoke mountain western MOC, i didn't like the vertical plates used to old up the trough, and im not a big fan of "cut outs" like the side of the mountain. im a little more traditional, and like three-four sided (stand alone) LEGO creations. here i don't like the front slope... but basically it's just an overall feeling of an "un-SYSTEM" building style. im a little more conservative with my techniques, and am not too fond of the so called AFOL "advanced" techniques. i don't think they are advanced... i think they're sloppy.

however, that's building techniques, which is a totally different ball game from conceptualization. that's why i'd love to see more from you in this theme... to see what your overall vision for this theme is. you might also try not calling this theme, post-apocalyptic. maybe call it "PA inspired science-fantasy." it might help with all the PA-based criticism, and i don't think the new classification will hurt your MOC or your concept.

Builder's Lougne: http://builderslounge.proboards80.com/index.cgi ;-)

thanks - i'll check it out.

- BM

[natelite]

i like your mfs. i think they are very creatively done for that theme (post-apoc). though it is a little too dark for me but it was right for the theme. I prefer more human resemblence in the survivors, heads like darth vader's, or that prof from HP with the mechanical eye. i like the guy with the red googles. the rest are just too dark for me. X-O that zombie head, that brain-in-a-bowl, the fire-nation head gave me the chills just looking at them....scary stuff. *y*

[Doctor Sinister]

I like it - I think the ship is great, and the crew are fantastic - as I was looking at the lineup I could just imagine the circumstances that might have thrown them together, the rivalries that might normally exist for this crew who only have each other to rely on, the petty feuds...sorry, getting a bit carried away. If I'd made something like this I'd never take it apart, I'd write little stories about the characters.

*wub*

Dr. S.

[Brick Miner]

I'd write little stories about the characters.

it's so inspiring isn't it ??? i'd love to see these guys in a comic book tale.

- BM