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42113 Reconstruction Guide
Ngoc Nguyen posted a topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
ALL CREDITS GO TO THE LEGO GROUP FOR THE DESIGN AND THE INSTRUCTION BOOK. WHERE CAN I GET THE INSTRUCTIONS? Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/file/k4nu591ygsd7tn5/42113.pdf/file WHERE DOES THAT FILE COME FROM? The Lego distributor in Vietnam put the set on the shelf early. I bought it. I paid a photocopy shop to have it scanned. WHERE CAN I GET THE PART LIST? Photos from Racingbrick. WHAT ARE THE NEW PARTS IN THIS SET? New Parts in 42113: - Power Up Battery Box, part number 22167 / 6214082 / bb1165c01 https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=bb1165c01&C=86#T=C&C=86 Parts in New Color in 42113 - Technic Liftarm 3x3 T-shaped in Orange, part number 60484 / 6305545 - Rotor Blade (Sian Side Skirt) in Black, part number 65422 / 6305550 - Wheel 31mm D. x 15mm in Orange, part number 60208 / 6303441 - Technic Panel 5x11 Tapered in Orange, part number 18945 / 6303439 - Technic Panel 5x11 Tapered in DBG, part number 18945 / 6112843 - Technic Panel 3x5 #1 in DBG, part number 87080 / 6013548 - Technic Panel 3x5 #2 in DBG, part number 87086 / 6303445 - Technic Curved Triangular Panel 3x13 #50 (Sian's hood) in DBG, part 67142 / 6310171 - Technic Curved Triangular Panel 3x13 #51 (Sian's hood) in DBG, part 68196 / 6310172 - Technic Curved Panel 3x13 in DBG, part number 18944 / 6303446 HOW CAN I BUY THE PARTS? I'd suggest you use Bricklink. Pick the lists that suit your need from the one below, then import it into a wanted list in Bricklink. To import, go to Want, and pick Upload from the menu. Bricklink lists: 1/ List of everything: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-83101/nguyengiangoc/42113-maiden-flight-version/#details What this list has: All existing parts with the exact colors in the official part list above, and all the new parts and parts with new color listed in the previous question but in different colors. What this list doesn't have: All parts with new color listed in the previous question in the original colors. 2/ List of all existing parts: The XML code is in this link. https://pastebin.com/a8TaMR9m. Credit to @Alitai. The list doesnt not contain the new parts and the parts in the new color listed in the previous question. What this list has: All existing parts with the exact colors in the official part list above What this list doesn't have: All the new parts and parts with new color listed in the previous question 3/ List of orange parts: Because some of the orange parts are exclusive to this set and haven't appeared on Bricklink, I put all of the parts in red. https://pastebin.com/AmDNwp6V What this list has: All of the Orange liftarms and panels and system parts in the part list above, but in Red. That means it does include the parts in Orange exclusive to this set, but those parts are listed in Red. What this list doesn't have: One Technic 3L pin with bush in Orange. All the remaining parts in the Master list. 4/ List of DBG parts: Because some of the DBG parts are exclusive to this set and haven't appeared on Bricklink, I put all of the parts in white. https://pastebin.com/GuLnJYF0. What this list has: All of the DBG liftarms and panels and system parts in the part list above, but in White. That means it does include the parts in DBG exclusive to this set, but those parts are listed in White. I've substituted the two triangular panels with two 3x13 curved panels. That means it has 3 3x13 curved panels. What this list doesn't have: Triangular curved panels (Sian's hood). DBG gears or connectors or axles. All the remaining parts in the Master list. 5/ List of Remaining parts: This list is the List of all existing parts (list 1) without the parts included in Red and White recolor (list 2 and 3). https://pastebin.com/qdZztzsA What this list has: All of the parts remain after the Orange and DBG parts in list 2 and 3 above are deleted. What this list doesn't have: 6 rotor blades. New battery box. HOW MUCH DO THE PARTS COST? I put the lists 2 3 4 into bricklink and created a cart for all of them. The tentative costs for parts alone is 216 EUR at the time of writing. DO I NEED ALL OF THE PARTS IN THE LIST ABOVE TO RECONSTRUCT A FUNCTIONAL REPLICA OF 42113? Yes and No. Yes because this set has a dumb Power Up Battery Box that powers the L-motor. Without the battery box obviously the motor wont work. No because all of the other components for the main functions, namely gears and the L-motor, have all been released in other sets, and there are ways to get around the requirement for the new dumb battery box. HOW CAN I GET THE NEW DUMB BATTERY BOX? The new battery box has been officially released by Lego as a standalone set with the set number 88015. You can buy it directly from online Lego shops. DO I NEED ALL OF THE PARTS IN THE LIST ABOVE TO RECONSTRUCT A REPLICA OF 42113 THAT HAS SAME COLOR SCHEME? Yes. Some parts in DBG and Orange are exclusive to this set. IF I DON'T MIND AN INCONSISTENT COLOR SCHEME, DO I NEED ALL OF THE PARTS IN THE LIST ABOVE TO RECONSTRUCT A REPLICA OF 42113? No. All of the panels already exist in some other colors. IF I WANT A CONSISTENT COLOR SCHEME, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? The colors in the model can be divide in 3 parts: - LBG for the lower body of the fuselage. There are no new parts or parts in new color in this part, so no need for recolor. - DBG for the main body. The colors that have all the panels for the body are Black, White, and Dark Azure (42070). I'd recommend White. This is the XML code for the Bricklink list of all body parts in white. https://pastebin.com/GuLnJYF0. This list only contains liftarms and panels. It doesn't contain gears or connectors or axles. The only missing piece is the triangular curved panel. I've substituted the two triangular panels with two 3x13 curved panels. - Orange for accent. The colors that have the required panels are Black, White, Dark Azure, and Red. Since Black or White should be reserved for the body, I'd recommend Red. And maybe Dark Azure. But Dark Azure won't be as strong as Red. This is the XML code for the Bricklink list of all accent parts in red: https://pastebin.com/AmDNwp6V The two triangular panels are currently available only in Lime and Red. If we go for White as the main body color and Red for the accent color, then although there are no White triangular panels that correspond with the DBG ones, the Red ones can be used to create a consistent color scheme. There is also a real life white-red color scheme for the Osprey. This is the first flight (maiden flight) of the Osprey. Download the part list and instruction for the Maiden Flight Version here: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-83101/nguyengiangoc/42113-maiden-flight-version/#details WHAT DOES THE RECONSTRUCTED VERSION LOOK LIKE? The maiden flight version looks like this: Comparison with the official set: Here are others' versions: HOW DO I FIX THE PROBLEM WITH THE GEARBOX? The gearbox problem is actually a combination of separate smaller problems: Problem 1: Gear grinding/chewing. To fix, add 3 8z gears and bracing. Credit goes to Huw from Brickset. Required additional parts: - 3x 8z gears, part number 10928 - 2x 5L thin liftarm with axle holes, part number 11478. PDF instruction: https://bricksafe.com/files/andman/42113---gearbox-fixes/42113_fixes.pdf. Credit goes to @Andman for the creation of the pdf file. The results should look like either of these. The second version is better because the gears are braced from both sides. Problem 2: Inadequate torque to the spinning blades. Required additional parts: - 1x 3L liftarm, part number 32523. - 2x 20z gear, part number 32269 - 1x 2L pin connector, part number 62462 - 2x Pinhole with pins on both sides, part number 87082 - 2x Half bush, part number 4265c - 2x 2L axle connector, part number 6538c - 2x 6L axle, part number 3706 Pdf instruction for 2nd fix: https://bricksafe.com/files/andman/42113---gearbox-fixes/42113_fix_rotor_torque.pdf. Although the pdf only shows the fix for the left nacelle, from step 317 to 325, the same should be applied to the right one, from step 296 to 302. Credit goes to @Andman for the creation of the pdf file. The results should look like these. I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T LISTED HERE. HOW CAN I ASK YOU? Leave a comment in this thread and I'll reply. -
[WIP] Osprey Built out of Volvo
Tomik posted a topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
When the first pictures of set 42113: Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey appeared on internet two years ago I was not fascinated by them at all. Things changed when LEGO announced cancellation of this set just few weeks before its official release. My new interest in set 42113 wasn't big enough to convince me to buy one of overpriced original sets that were sold before their cancellation. So instead of buying new set I've got idea to build Osprey out of Volvo hauler (set 42114) that was released in same time. It is interesting that no one else got this idea too and haven't made it come true. Initially it looked like good and easy job because Volvo has about 500 pieces more than Osprey and it contains a lot of panels and liftarms. Then I began building and found out that I need even more liftarms (especially shorter ones) and I can't use many panels due to their large size... So let's take a look at where I am now. I built as much as I could by following original building instructions and changing just parts of model where I was missing correct parts. I had to rebuild engines with propellers and wings completely plus tail was modified to use less liftarms and more available panels. I also had to omit inclination of wings because Volvo doesn't contain enough universal joints (it contains only one and inclined wings need 4). You can see current state of model with wings and tail connected provisionally to fuselage at pictures below. I skipped assembly of gearbox intentionally because it must be totally different. It is also part of model where I am stuck right now. I am dealing with these questions: Should I keep all 4 main functions of plane (spinning propellers, tilting engines, lowering landing gear and opening cargo door)? Which functions should be motorized and which should be manual? Volvo features 3 motors. Two of them are large and they hardly fit in free space inside fuselage. If I keep all functions how will I distribute motors for them? Combination of one motor for powering and another for switching gearbox is not ideal because you can't run two functions at the same time (for example spinning propellers and tilting engines). There is not enough room for all three motors and gearbox inside fuselage and I already have problems with stability - plane is too rear heavy. Should I use linear actuators for lowering landing gear, opening cargo door and tilting engines or other mechanism? Original Osprey uses small linear actuators and one worm gear but Volvo has only the biggest actuators and no worm gears. If you have any suggestion or idea how to overcome issues I am dealing with I'll appreciate them. The last picture shows plane with available motors and linear actuators for size comparison. -
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42113 Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey
Ngoc Nguyen posted a topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
DBG and Orange. 129.99 EUR. The four functions are switched manually. Special features and new parts: - New rotor blades - New panels 3x13 left and right that suit perfectly Panel Curved 3x13 (18944) - Control+ battery box - 1 motor Functions - Driven rotors - Tlting the rotors - Retractable undercarriage - Open and close chopping flap Go nuts -
Not sure whether this has been posted on this forum before, but here is a link to a Change.org petition for LEGO to reintroduce the V-22 Osprey set to its line after the recent controversy surrounding the nature of the product: http://chng.it/KHK9sbSbrY Thought I'd share this here. It's a bigger discussion in LEGO Technic but this might be pertinent to LEGO Military enthusiasts.
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Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey 42113 Petition
damian_kane_iv posted a topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Not sure whether this has been posted on here, but here is a link to a Change.org petition for LEGO to reintroduce the V-22 Osprey set to its line after the recent controversy surrounding the nature of the product: http://chng.it/KHK9sbSbrY Thought I'd share this here. -
Not sure whether this has been posted on this forum before, but here is a link to a Change.org petition for LEGO to reintroduce the V-22 Osprey set to its line after the recent controversy surrounding the nature of the product: http://chng.it/KHK9sbSbrY Thought I'd share this here.
