Posts posted by Jack Bricker
33 minutes ago, Blazej_Holen said:
Actualy it is WEIRD about that announcment... Maybe they are still working on something in the set...deciding if they put shark in it or finalizing box art etc...But there is only 16 days to VIP acces...
Doubt it as manufacturing can take months to get enough product for shelves. My bet is the set was finished and ready 2 months ago and they were trying to get a little more attention to the set through yahoo.com. I have never seen Lego use another website as a press release before so I am guessing there was some confusion.
It does make me wonder with the shark as obviously it has reached the factory floor and been produced or people would not have gotten their hands on it.
7 hours ago, zoth33 said:
I don't understand all the hate for the SM. I think lego was trying something new rather than just the same old pirate ships they have cranked out recently. Even lord of the rings got a pirate ship. I'm glad they went the ghost ship route I think it looks pretty cool and like the ship from the trailer. It seems recently everything lego does people complain. The beauty of lego is you can make anything out of lego and use your imagination. Just my opinion.
I think it is just negativity and the fact that Lego has pretty much reached its zenith for sets that are profitable. When Lego was coming out of bankruptcy everybody was just happy to see more pirate ships, more castles, etc... Now we have all had that for the last ten years and it is easy to forget what is was like when pirates jr 2004 came out and how bad that was.
I think Lego tried really hard to make a great ghost pirate ship and I really dig that. I also think that once the movie comes out and we actually build the set most purchasers will be very happy with the set.
This ship is amazing. I love the details of the brick built cannons and the other textures throughout the ship. The minifigs are great I just wish we were getting more sets and minifigs. Can't wait for it to come out.
I disagree with this being a prototype of the imperial flagship. 1. The two ships look totally different the IFS is a man of war while the prototype set is a pirate galleon with pirate sails. 2. The set looks like a licensed set based off of the sails and color scheme. 3. The look of the ship reminds me very much of the brief view of the new ship in the trailer. 4. Pirates of the Caribbean 5 has been in production for almost 6 years so even if the photo was old it could still be the new ship. Just my thoughts but I would love to hear other opinions.
For the people saying that Harry Potter would probably be revived if this theme happens, because it happened with Lord of the Rings: the detail you're missing is that there had never been any middle earth sets. Harry Potter has already been a theme twice, and has already been discontinued twice, once fairly recently. If there are Fantastic Beasts sets, I doubt there would be more than maybe some Harry Potter Dimensions Packs.
That is true but, Lego has revived Harry Potter every time Warner Bros. released a new movie so I tend to think that they will do it again. Also keep in mind that Lego is in business to make money. Their marketing team couldn't care less wether they have already released sets based on certain scenes/places already or not, they just care about making a successful theme and Harry Potter has always sold well.
Quite right, however it is a fact that there is a new movie, in the Harry Potter Universe, slated for 2016 and being that Lego will not want to let the WB license go due to DC I have a strong feeling that we might get some more Harry Potter sets. I searched through 10 pages of topics and found nobody asking any questions along these lines so I decided to post a topic. If the Moderators would be so kind to change the title to "Speculation of Harry Potter 2016" I would be grateful. I only intended this to be a fun discussion on wether Lego might make more Harry Potter sets and what they might be.
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Being that nothing has been officially announced I was wondering if anybody has heard any rumors. It seems logical that there would be more sets as Harry Potter has been a very profitable theme and there is no traditional fantasy theme slated for 2016. I have a hard time believing that Lego will let the WB license go due to the popularity of DC and we already know that Lego has Batman vs Superman sets in the works so I tend to believe that the license will get extended. We also know that Lego tends to release sets related to the story cannon of a film if the film is popular enough. So, I was wondering if anybody has heard anything or if anybody has any speculation or ideas on what Lego might produce.
I was just wondering if anybody has heard anything about a Harry Potter theme in 2016? I know there is the new film Fantastic Beasts and were to Find Them in 2016. I also heard that the Lego WB license expires in 2016. I didn't see any topics that discussed this recently and was wondering if there are any rumours circulating.
That has to be one of the best Castle MOCs I have ever seen. I am completely blown away with all of the detail and the different design choices that you put into that awesome display. All am left to say is WOW! I am going to quit now and continue taking in the details of your creation.
We probably won't see any pictures until around November at the earliest. In the past we saw pictures really early because Lego didn't really enforce its anti-leak policy on social media that well. Now I think we will have to wait until either the images are officially released or until Lego decideds to "leak" the pictures themselves.
On another train of thought, I am beginning to wonder if Lego is not focusing on traditional core themes due to competition. In the past Lego was constantly trying to enforce it's expired patient on the Lego brick around the world and thus outbid the competition that way. Ever since the Lego patient was deemed expired by the courts Lego doesn't seem to care about their tradiononal Pirates, Castle and Space themes. Maby they are trying to develope a unique brand by doing all of these ,for lack of a better word, creative themes to create a niche brand.
That is true. But, I also find that when a company really puts effort and quality into a theme it winds up popular anyway. The one exception is licenced themes where the popularity of the movie or show really dertermines the sales of the toys. A great example would be the Hobbit vs. Jurassic World. The Hobbit movies really were disappointing compared to LOTR wereas Jurassic World was very good and popular. Thus, the hobbit toys did not sell very well but, Jurassic World has flown off of the shelfs.
There is only one factor that determines how many waves a theme gets and that is popularity/sales.
I disagree. I think two equally big factors are effort into the sets themselves and marketing. When I got excited for Lego sets both as an adult and as a child it was usually because the packaging looked soo cool and the sets themselves were really cool looking and sparked my imagination. When I looked at the last castle theme or at the last pirate theme I was not impressed by the box art or at the marketing and I also was not impressed by the set designs and color choices either. I mean come on, bright yellow and blue on the box art, really and than the sets felt like they were designed by somebody who really didn't care about doing those themes. Remember when Lego did Fantasy Era they were asking adult fans of Lego Castle to come to Denmark and help them design the sets, thus the Fantasy Era sets had a lot of effort put into the designs. It's beginning to feel like the Marketing is being run by somebody who really doesn't care about the product and long term business as much as the immediate results and that is very sad and disappointing.
I have not posted on this forum for a while but, I have been keeping up with this thread. I was and still am a huge lotr fan but, I was very disappointed with a number of the set choices for that theme. I was very much hoping for a fantasy era castle theme but, now seeing the direction that the new theme is going I am once again disappointed.
I have to say that I do have some doubts on the success of this theme due to a couple of reasons. When ninjago came out it was a very different and fresh theme that really appealed to anybody who was fan of martial arts or a fan of any kind of ninja/samurai style theme. When Chima came out it kind of felt like a rehash of ninjago and I think it was not as successful because of that. I have to believe that another rehash minus the Ninja themed fantasy is not necessarily going to be received all that well. Especially when it will be competing with lots of content rich themes like DC/Marvel Super Heroes, Star Wars, etc... I thereby conclude that we may be seeing more tradition/fantasy castle in the not so distant future.
At the end of the day I think that a bigger pirate ship would still be better though. I mean why can't Lego have a couple of smaller ships for those who caccot afford a larger model and then do a huge UCS pirate ship for those who can. I can't afford every set either but, that doesn't mean Lego should stop making large sets.
I tend to think that Lego will not do another Dino theme for a while. The last Dino theme from everything I have heard did not sell well and those were the best dinosaurs that Lego ever made although the sets were pretty underwelming to me. I just couldn't stand all of the yellow going on. I mean why couldn't they have used more useful and interesting colors like green and grey. Better jeeps and cars would have been a major plus as well. And why couldn't Lego have made a giant RV set like they do for Police and Agients. Even though it was featured in Lost World I still don't think there would have been any copyright problems. I mean think about it a cool, giant RV done in camo with tons of computers and lab equipment and a cool T-Rex to tear it up.
I really hope that after LOTR Lego does a really nice castle theme like the 2007 Fantasy era with darker colors and more realistic armor. I couldn't understand why Lego didn't use dark red instead of bright fire engine red on the lion knights in Kingdoms. It would have been so much more cool and would have offset some of the grey wall syndrome of the Kings Castle set. Hopefully Lego will do castle more justice in the future.
Do they ever officially announce the end of a theme?
Very rarely, I think Lego did once announce the end of 2009 Pirates to make way for more "Pirates" later on but, that is about it.
I do tend to think that Lego would be pretty pathetic to not release the Gonder faction in a third wave but, who knows. I know that Lego also announced the retirement of Indiana Jones to make way for Prince of Persia so, I wouldn't be too surprised if Lego decides to not do a third LOTR wave. I really do hope that they will however since I think that Lego should at least try to endevour to finish complete their product lines when they release a new Licensed theme and because I really will be disappointed if there is no Lego Gondor faction.
I disagree with the statemant that smaller ships are "better" and more afortable than large one. We dont need to have larger ship than IFS but at least same sized vessel, with more realistic looking. These high placed cabins are good but only for pirate ships or galleons, not for military imperial ships like "Interceptor", HMS Providence and even Dauntless from POTC.
And I think that its not really hard to make, BSB already simulate two decks as well and the set itself contains around 900 pcs, so it is possible to make ship like this with cabin placed low with backside balcony..etc. It could contain three-four cannons, and maybe some brickbuilt cannons on the place where the wheel is :) As crew they can add 3-4 sailors, 2 soldiers, admiral and officer. And we have 7-8 minifigs, large ship with 3 mid sections, 3-4 cannons+some brickbuilt ones, , nice cabin with furniture, and maybe there could be a new design for rawboat with two seats for guys with paddles (my dream is to maintain the blue/white/black or blue/tanblack or blue/yellow/black color scheme). All in all it could take around 130 bucks. as enemy there could be some pirate vessel with high placed cabin as BSB has, with two mid sections, and 2 cannons and 5-6 bad guys. Also i prefer more realistic colours, so it would be great to see more dark brown/white, reddish brown/black or even dark red or dark green colour scheme on pirate ship :)
I agree with all of that. I think we have a rare opportunity here for something really special from the Lego Pirates Theme and it would be a shame to have it wasted on another ship like the Brickbeards Bounty. Even though it was a decent pirate ship an IFS level pirate ship would be awesome.
I doubt they'd do anything larger than 10210 Imperial Frigate, but I can imagine them doing another one the same size, if it was popular enough... and I do think that the IF represents an enormous ship in Lego terms, if not in 'real' terms. It's like the way a Lego house with a separate living room, kitchen and bedroom is a 'large' house.
I'd like to see smaller ships too, if just for variety... preferably I'd like to see a navy or merchant ship the size of Brickbeard's Bounty, a pirate ship one hull piece shorter than that, and for the large D2C set (fingers crossed they have one) to be a large harbour set, either a merchant port or a fort. If they do another IF-sized vessel, I'd like for it to be a merchant ship, or an Armada Flagship... I think a pirate ship that size would be overkill. At least in the fiction I'm familiar with, pirate ships were smaller than their targets?
Edit: Actually, it would be good for the pirates to have a smaller, more affordable model, because more kids will be able to afford it, and I imagine kids would be more excited by a pirate ship than a navy ship. Also if there were two ships in the theme, it would be easier to afford a 'sea battle' without having to buy the expensive adult-oriented IF set. That's one thing I always found odd about the 2009 pirate range, only one ship.
I have to disagree. I would really prefer a large pirate ship since we haven't had a really good large non-licenced pirate ship since the skull eye schooner and I tend to think that both adults and kids would want that. Also, even though historically most pirates had smaller ships there were a few like Blackbeard, Henry Morgan, Captain Kidd, and I believe Henry Avery that had larger sailing vessels, so I don't really see anything wrong with having a larger pirate ship. Hopefully in a few months we will get to see what Lego is planning.
I guess I wouldn't mind the Woddy treatment on those three but I'd prefer they were just done as regular minifigs. There's a point at which the toy is close enough and imagination can do the rest. That point is subjective and different for different people but standard minifigs are close enough for me. (I prefer the Hulk from the polybag to the set) The main issue I have with 'Woody legs' is that they don't last well unless they are treated with special care. When thrown in with other Legos, the two legs will end up coming together at the feet due to the decreased support of the waist piece at the greater distance. From a customization standpoint, a bunch of new long legs would be wonderful though. It's a bit annoying that any giant I make has to wear boots and blue jeans.
I have to say I think that the Woody legs would be essential for a Sauron minifig since he was so tall in the FOTR. That being said, I do agree with you that Azog and Bolg should be done as regular minifigs since they were not much taller than the urok hai.
Do you have any market research data to support your poor sales claim?
The reason I believe POTC didn't sell as well was because Lego cancelled the Flying Dutchman set that was supposed to be released in 2012. I think if I remember correctly it was because of a lack of interest in the POTC line. So, no I don't have any statistics but, as I recall the POTC line did better than Lego originally expected but, not well enough to release the Flying Dutchman set the following year. I also felt that a lot of the POTC sets were only half finished in terms of design and didn't include half of the main characters from the series. Now if you remembor with Indiana Jones, Lego released 2-3 waves and covered most of the major characters and events from the films whereas POTC was missing quite a few different scenes and characters such as: Pintel and Regetti, Cotten with the Parot, The Empress, The Interceptor, The Flying Dutchman "cancelled", The prison and the dog with the key, The pirate attack on Port Royal, Tortuga, Captain Barbossa's undead crew, and several other set possibilities. I mean Disney made 4 movies so, there was plenty of material for more sets, I just think that there was a lack of interest and Lego decided to not produce anymore POTC sets until another movie came out. That all being said I do really hope that Lego returns to pirates soon and produces some more awesome sets.
If I may put in my two cents I would say that Lego was scared away from POTC by poor sales figures. I mean the pirate ships were well done but, some of the other sets were lacking in my opinion in terms of completeness and playability. I mean how many times does a kid want to play the same mermaid attack over and over again. Now during the 90s Lego was producing pirate sets that had complete forts islands and different factions. Consequently, the sets were a lot more appealing in my opinion and they are still very collectible today. I do however have a gut feeling that Lego will release another Pirate line in the next two years or so. :)
I love it. It looks awesome and even though there might be some inaccuracies to the film I wouldn't let that bother you. After all, the films are based off of the books and the books are open to interpretation of how these locations looked exactly. Great MOD and I cannot wait to see it actually built.
Even though I am late to the discussion I have to say that I really like this wave of LOTR and I would like to state my opinions of the different sets. I also really hope that Lego does at least one more wave of LOTR and a two waves would be awesome.
79005 The Wizard Battle
Although, I was a little disappointed that Lego made the wizard battle set in lieu of the fact that Lego is making the Tower of Orthanc, I am still impressed with that little set. I love the Eye of Sauron in the Palanthir Stone and I am really happy with how they did Sauramon.
79006 The Council of Elrond
I am also pleased with the Concil of Elrond set. While I too would have loved a UCS Rivendell I can understand why Lego went this route by producing a smaller set and I think it works out pretty well. After all, almost all of the major scenes in Rivendell take place in a setting like where the Council takes place so, I think it works just fine.
79007 Battle at the Black Gate
The Battle at the Black Gate is a really well done set and I am very happy that Lego made the Mouth of Sauron and Gandalf the White. While I also would have preferred that Lego had included both towers I can understand why they excluded it for budget reasons and I think that with Gandalf the White, Aragorn in his Gondorian armor the Mouth of Sauron and almost 700 pieces it is a good price.
79008 Pirate Ship Ambush
The corsair pirate ship is the only set that I am a little disappointed on since I think that Lego should really stick to the important locations and scenes from the books and the film. That being said it is a beautiful set and I will definitely be picking up one or two of copies of this set.
Overall I think that it is a great wave and I cannot wait for it to come out in June.
As The_Chosen_1 pointed out, I was not referring to you, I was talking about the guy who made and uploaded the video to youtube.
Alright, I am sorry. I thought that you were refering to me. And I do agree with you that the fake set thing has gotten out of hand not on this site but elsewhere.
Anyway I am surprised that there are only 4-5 sets coming out. I was sure I had seen a possible treebeard set in that picture of the inside of the Lego design studio. Hopefully there will be another wave of LOTR later on this year and not just the Hobbit. I also wouldn't be too sure of the eye of sauron being a minifig head since the sets are described as preliminary and not finalized.
[MOC] Fantasy medieval house front
in LEGO Historic Themes
Really cool. I love the inside of the stone arch. Great job!