jluck
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I'm curious if both families had a kill, it would really seem excessively stacked against the town if so. Kills could also have come from a Vig, SK, or a vengeful character.
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It also appears that both dead men went at each other a small bit yesterday. Harry wasn’t a big fan of Allen. Our job is still the same, stop the Ballagios. I assume the other family has/had a survival win condition or something of the sort.
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Dang...well done judge, this really shakes things up! Ok, so my immediate reactions: 1) small jury, not much room for huge 3rd parties, so I can imagine there can be too many Mollatis in here. 2) 0 kills night 1 but 2 kills last night. I don’t know what to make of it.
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You seem mighty confident in your vote on me. Unfortunately, the real scenario tomorrow would be being down 2 good jurors if you force this vote through and there’s a kill. Think about what I’ve said, is there anything that actually makes y’all think I’m most likely scum (not just the candidate most likely to vote through)? I just happen to be the one Stephanie settled on as her target and once she locks in nothing shakes her.
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I’ve already done my pointing, buy since Anthony has chosen to remain silent there’s nothing new I can add there. I’ve laid out my argument over 2 days against that character.
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Given that I don’t know the allegiances of anyone here other than myself, I would not vote for myself. I would be voting against my only confirmed Townie which doesn’t do the torn any good. So I don’t see how voting for myself would ever be for the greater good for the town.
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Fair, but my point still remains. I’m not giving up, I just know from experience that once a bandwagon starts late in the day, it doesn’t turn around. However, I’ve still got plenty to contribute. I’m not signing off.
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You know as well as I do that there is nothing I can say to change things. You’ve sold yourself on your logic. Be honest with yourself for a moment, is there anything I could say that’d make you change? I think you know the answer, because you’d prefer to have your argument be chosen.
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Poor choice, but understandable in trying to save yourself since I’m the only other candidate. So where’s the vote count and how much time do we have? It seems like many of you are willing to blindly follow Stephanie’s bandwagon and I’m starting to fear she’ll win this (at least until I’m shown as town tomorrow. Then who knows what excuses she’ll offer and who she’ll railroad next).
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So short of lynching me, which I’d prefer not to happen, would you want a no lynch again?
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I find it funny that you keep stating that the scum are bandwagoning Anthony when he has around the same amount of votes as I do. Seems just as logical that the scum are bandwagoning me. The problem is, Stephanie, that your putting all your eggs in one basket. You've built your entire assumption of what's happening on me. If you lynch me, what'll happen tomorrow? Who are you going to railroad when you see I'm innocent? You're a powerful voice and you've used that to steer the conservation for the entire day. Not only does it shape the entire day through your lens, it keeps you standing clean. If others choose to follow you down this road and I'm gone tomorrow I hope everyone wakes up and thinks for themselves. Also, you said this: I would like to point out for all to see who the two initiators on the Cathy/Jimmy/Anthony bandwagon are: Day 1: Tony then the third vote was Amanda Day 2: Amanda then the third vote was Tony It seems your a bit blinded in your witchhunt to push this as a reason for lynching me. Anyone who has played as scum knows no one ever structures their votes in such a way. This would indicate I told Amanda "Today, I'll vote for Cathy and you come in 3rd and tomorrow will switch. That'll get em!" I've been consistent with my vote from the beginning. I imagine the experienced Anthony could construct a compelling argument as to why I shouldn't vote for him, but so far he's done nothing but an empty, nonformatted, revenge vote. That wasn't enough to convince me. So should we instead follow you blindly and lynch an actual loyal jury member as opposed to the 3 person character that is yet to add any value?
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Judging from the current state of things, are we going to build enough momentum on a vote? We don't have much time left so I'm curious if people are truly comfortable with two days with no conviction.
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I see what your saying. I originally read it as you were calling out Anthony for not being active, not the character in general.
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Hmmm... maybe you didn’t read the turn of events carefully enough. Anthony has been a member of this jury for all of an hour so far.
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Glad to have an old face who can bring a bit of sanity to the role. Welcome Anthony, why shouldn’t we kill you?
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What’s the current vote count? Roughly scanning looks like 4 for Jimmy and 3 for me, but that was a fast scan.
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Also, based off of actions of Jimmy outside the “courthouse”, it would be a good riddance.
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Are you still going on about the hot dog thing? Your behavior does nothing to change my opinion on my suspicions of your character. You haven’t contributed anything of note and Cathy was already on my list so vote: Jimmy/Cathy (Steamdemon)
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Go for it then. I laid out my reasoning yesterday. I explained that the fluff posts and band wagon vote were suspicious, and I wasn’t the only one to think so. To say that I’m not contributing anything useful is a blatant misrepresentation of today’s discussion. Just because you don’t agree with what I have to say doesn’t mean it’s not useful. Your willingness to write off my suspicions of Cathy, now Jimmy, just because the player changed overnight is a serious oversight of the games mechanics. If Cathy was scum and acted suspiciously as such, then the fact that Jimmy is now controlling the character doesn’t change the fact that their scum. I can’t just judge Jimmy separate of his predecessor. In closing you say I’ve not stated what I found suspicious enough to carry over. On the contrary, ive seen no reason not to carry it over. What have you seen that says Cathy/Jimmy is not scum? My suspicions have not been answered so I still have them.
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I found her suspicious on day 1. So did several others. At the end of day 1 she was still suspicious. Nothing changed from day 1 til now, so I still find that character role suspicious. Unfortunately Jimmy, until I’ve seen your actions speak for themselves I must continue to judge you based on what I know about Cathy. I thought Cathy acted scummy and you are now (for all intents and purposes) her role.
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Cuz the character wouldn’t change allegiance even after being replaced. So if Cathy was acting suspicious yesterday to the point of me thinking she was possibly scum then Jimmy is going to start in the same position. Unfortunately for Jimmy, I can’t forget the actions of his predecessor.
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Pure speculation at this point but I tend towards the simple explanation until it’s shown to be untrue. So in this case my assumption is they were prevented from killing or chose a different action. It seems unlikely there’d be some complex system in place and a recruit is unlikely on day 1 as the scum would miss a lot of the advantages of recruiting e.g. recruiting a trusted townie.
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I’ve seen both tactics of recruiting used (early and late in game) so I don’t think it’s a theory we can write off, however, it doesn’t help us if it’s true. Since we’ve not really cleared anyone a recruit action doesn’t change much. It happens on occasion. I’ve seen a few odd games where the scum can only kill certain nights or can do other actions instead of killing. I believe on one or two occasions I’ve seen teams skip a kill to cause confusion though that’s usually later in the game. I’m still holding on my suspicions of Cathy, I don’t wanna through away all my thoughts from day 1.
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Trial by Jury - Confirmation and Discussion
jluck replied to mediumsnowman's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
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Huh, weird. I know it feels like a repeat of day 1, but I’m pleased with the turn of events. I’m sure there were some night actions and we also have several decent conversations from yesterday to build off of, all without losing any townies.