Seasider

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    [REVIEW] 81000 Koi - Lego Forma

    @TimeCruiser to answer a few of your questions. You can’t just put the crank handle on the other side as it would foul with a tan Bevel gear that’s placed horizontally. only some of the skins are one sided. The tail, dorsal and (I think) pelvic fins are doubled sided, strangely the forward pectoral fins aren’t which is odd to me. The head and 3 skins that make up the body only need to be single sided as they wrap over the top of the model nd are pinned underneath. no the extra skin packs and as “envelope” type packs and they all came delivered in a plain brown delivery box. As to the part count I wonder if someone in the US can confirm if the box is the same. I think for such a low volume it will be, and perhaps the video was showing a premilinary box and they removed the part count for the actual. Again a step to make it not look like traditional Lego. Part count is 293 if you sum up the parts list at the back of the manual, assuming it’s correct. Interestingly the skins are counted as 2 parts (there are 2 sheets) and not the 10 individual parts they end up being when you push them out of the sheet. So the 294 from the early video must have either had someone who couldn’t count or they removed an unnecessary part from the model. the new pins are only used for holding the skins on. The 31 pins in the parts list only get used 30 times, so it officially contains a spare not sure why? I looked at the original video and when it shows the skins all on a table you can see the Koi only has 30 holes. As to the Shark, I haven’t built it yet but checking the instructions I can see that the head part does indeed double up holes on the pins to get the shape. But it still only has 30 holes as it doesn’t have pins on the top and bottom of the head piece like the Koi. The red pins must have been prototypes. You definitely wouldn’t want them in red on the final model. To remove the skins from them you need to ideally take the skins with pins off the model, this then allows you to get flexibility in the skin to pry them off. The holes are sort of triangular and having just tested it pretty tight around the pins so you need to be careful to not damage them. as to why you get pins with the skin packs. Perhaps so that once you’ve put the pins on the skin you just leave them there even when you take the skin off. Putting the pins in the skin holes can be fiddly. Also it could be a production volume issue as you say. I’ve put on hold my plan to turn this into something else. Too many other Lego builds in progress. Sorry.
  2. REVIEW - Lego Forma - 81000 Koi - 81001 to 81003 Skins INTRODUCTION Firstly I'm not an official Eurobricks Reviewer but having purchased the set and seen that no-one here has reviewed it yet I'd thought I'd have a go. You'll have to excuse the photography, it's just me, my iphone and a coffee table in a conservatory, no fancy studios or cameras here. The Koi and it's associated Skin "packs" are the first in potentially new line for TLG under the banner of "Forma". The set and the Forma Theme have been promoted, advertised, aimed and sold in a different way to any other recent set that I can think of, this review will hopefully show you a little of the result. I found my way to this Theme via discussion on Eurobricks in the Technic section and it got my attention enough that I ended up on Indiegogo a kickstarter website. The set itself seemed to be promoting itself for the generation often known as Millenials (or Generation Y), with the aim of being a relaxation tool in a similar way colouring books for adults were a big thing here in the UK a couple of years back. The set was only being offered to the UK and US markets (I assume key target audiences) and was being promoted with a discount over their assumed retail should it ever appear in a store. Along with the main set, 3 packs each with an additional Skin were being offered to transform your Koi or you could purchase the whole lot in a "Super Box". I signed up for the whole experience at the end of September 2018. Part of the "experience" was a series of email updates during the process, I assume this is usual in a Kickstarter project as I've never bought anything like this before. I bought this with my own hard earned money and so all the comments in this review are my own. SET INFORMATION Number: 81000 Title: Koi Theme: Forma Released: 2019 Part Count: 294 Box Weight: 367g Box Dimensions: 26cm x 18.5cm x 4cm Set Price: $88 (when bought as a Super Box) Bricklink: https://brickset.com/sets/81000-1/Koi THE BOX So here is where things differ from the usual sets, the box doesn't show any images of the set itself, the front shows a sylised image of the Koi along with the Forma logo and discretely in the corners the Lego and set number, name and age suggestion (12+ in this case). The rear of the box sparks further interest with just some discrete blue lines, like wireframe, and some small text at the bottom to let you know what this set is meant to do ... "Add a splash of creativity to your day". The sides of the box reminds you who it's from. But a hint of a traditional box remains on one side with a piece in 1:1 scale, in this case a gear. To me this is very odd as there aren't any images of the completed model on the outside of the box so there's no relevance to this scaled piece as you don't know where it fits in the model. The box itself will be familar to those who have bought Ideas or Architecture sets with the nice easy to open lid and the box generally feeling like a quality product, a comment to remember for a little later. When you open the box you're greeted by another inspirational message "Dive into new inspiration.", I wonder if there was a competition in the Forma development team for who could come up with best fishy puns? There is also what appears to be a modern digital barcode on one of the side flaps of the lid, I won’t post it here, I don't recall seeing this on other boxes and when I scan it with a QR code app on my phone it doesn't recognise it. CONTENTS OF THE BOX The box contains: 3 x un-numbered bags 2 x "plasticised" card sheets (for the skin) 1 x booklet, unfortunately one of the normal stapled thin paper books and not the high quality bound ones which I prefer 1 x thank you card, a nice touch here for supporting the project HIGHLIGHTED PARTS Apart from the obviously new Skin sheets (which we can't really class as new parts as they're like a sticker sheet in any set), there is only 1 new part in the set it's identified as 6271188 in the parts list and is basically a Technic 3/4 pin 32002 with a Cap on the top and it's used to hold the Skins on the model. Here it is (in white) next to a collection of Technic 1/2 and 3/4 pins for reference, it's certainly nicer than using the 6628 Towball Pin to mount pieces as in the 42074 Racing Yacht set. The only other part of interest is actually the 6628 with a single one of these in Red, this part has only been released this year in the colour in the 42096 Porsche 911 RSR set. PART LIST THE COMPLETED MODEL Here we have the model in all it's glory. I've added a minifig for scale. This is a set that's meant to be displayed. The left over parts. The model itself is a "kinematic sculpture" and you crank the handle at the front to make the Koi "swim". Strangely you do this by rotating this anti-clockwise (counter-clockwise), supposedly this is down to one of the development team being Left Handed. I looked at switching the gear and handle round but the swimming mechanism won't allow this, well not from my very quick look at the mechanism. The Skin packs 81001-3, Shark, Splash Koi & Ink Koi come in carboard envelopes and contain the 2 x card sheets, a bag of new pins and a simple fold open 2 sided instruction sheet for how to covert the Koi into the new fish. I've only opened the Shark skin so far and not fitted it yet. TLG also sent an email with blank patterns to make your own skins, so you don't even have to make another Fish, I'm sure with a few other parts you could easily reskin this into a Lizard or Dragon. SUMMARY It only took me 40 minutes to build but it was an enjoyable experience, but I do find that building from instructions is relaxing and enjoyable, the only challenging part was making sure you had the mechanism and the fish structures aligned in the right angles when you marry the 2 together. I do like the set, I mainly build in Technic and this model is 90+% Technic, and importantly it looks good as a display piece on a shelf. The main downside I've found is the model as a whole is very light and so when you place it on a smooth surface (like a conservatory coffee table) you have to hold the base still to crank the handle, thankfully the macaroni pieces provide a good finger hold location. As to if this set reaches people new to Lego or people in their "Dark Ages" I'm not sure, especially looking at the reselling sites where there are a significant number of these up for sale. I don't know what TLG plans to do with this Theme or what sort of models would come next, would the continue the kinematic sculptures or do something else, but I'll definitely keep an eye out and see what's next. PROS It's a good display piece The swimming motion is good Skins can be easily switched for other fish as long as you bought them. CONS It needs to be held to operate Simple design, not a challenging build You could only buy it in the UK and US via Indiegogo SCORES 8 - Design I like the compact nature of base mechanism and the swimming motion is good 4 - Building Experience Not very challenging and only 40 minutes (and I was building slowly) 6 - Features You crank the handle and it swims 5 - Playability It's not really a play thing but it is more than an Architecture display model 4 - Parts Only 1 new part that has been specifically designed for holding the skins on 7 - Value for Money They were sold at a "reduced" price but for an adult set on a similar level to the Architecture series I don't think this was too bad price wise.# 5.666 - OVERALL Hope you enjoyed my review, thanks for reading it.
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    2018 Dallara IR18 IndyCar Model

    If you want Technic only working paddle shifters I’d check the Porsche GT3RS or Chiron MOD threads for ideas
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    2018 Dallara IR18 IndyCar Model

    If you do use some of his construction techniques in your final model I'd reference/thank him in your final post as he's a well known and respected builder.
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    2018 Dallara IR18 IndyCar Model

    If you're looking at building a scaled model of an single seat open wheeled car then you need to look at Roscopc's F1 collection. http://www.roscopc.it/ I've built a couple of these and the suspension is accurately modelled for this scale.
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    [REVIEW] 81000 Koi - Lego Forma

    @Ron Dayes - if I get a chance over the next couple of weeks I may give it a go. My plan would be to print out on thin paper and work out my shapes. Test that they look ok, the 2 central ones are pretty much defined by the motion. Then transfer to card I think. But I’ll need to get some card and colouring pens/pencils and also some Lego parts for what I’d like to show. So please give me some time
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    [REVIEW] 81000 Koi - Lego Forma

    @Ron Dayes - in terms of creativity you mentioned. The "Ink Koi Skin" 81003 is for you to colour in to your hearts desire and better than that through people asking about it Lego did provide templates via email so if you want you can print these out on Paper, or card, or whatever you can print on and make something totally different. I think you could quite easily with this make a Lizard or a Dragon if you wanted too!
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    42098 Car transporter (recreation)

    @Jim I can see a 2019 competition idea for designing a 15 wide car without PF to fit on this trailer ;)
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    [REVIEW] 81000 Koi - Lego Forma

    @deraven - have you got a Forma set? The reason why I ask is you do precisely what you say above. The first few stages you build the base and it’s gear mechanism. Then you build in stages the substructure of the koi and then join them together. Then you join the substructure to the base and to do this you have to get the alignment right or the mechanism doesn’t work. Once you’ve done this you can crank that handle to your hearts delight and appreciate Technic in motion. And then the Final Steps are to “drop the skins on” as you put it. So by that Lego have done precisely what you described. And actually if you think about it the skins have to go on last so you can handle it for assembly as they’re flexible. I also think a brick built “skin” to the model would have been too traditional Lego and still look like a Lego model on display which would turn some of the target market off. This is meant to be Lego for non-Lego people that doesn’t look like Lego. A brick built skin would undoubtedly look great to a lot of us, as someone has proved in the original Forma thread but I think it wasn’t the look they were after. I do actually hope this trial, which is obviously what it was, was deemed a success and will spawn more sets. The only question is how will Lego sell the product line going forward? If it’s aiming at new untapped markets selling them via their website or brand stores might not be the way forward. At least one thing this has sparked conversation :)
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    [REVIEW] 81000 Koi - Lego Forma

    Here’s a video as promised, it shows which way you have to crank the handle, what happens if you try to crank it too quickly (slides very easily) and also what the swimming motion looks like from the top. For a simple single gear drive and multi link system the motion is pretty good. https://youtu.be/Jf92HenbZU8 @Jim no idea where I got the review format from ;) I feel I’d need to get a light box or something if I was to do proper reviews. Something to discuss in a PM?
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    [REVIEW] 81000 Koi - Lego Forma

    I found the original video for the project. @deraven If I get time tomorrow I’ll try and convince the better half to help me out and do a quick film of the final products motion and the problem with the sliding on the floor. @WhiteFang I think it’s only aimed at adults. All the marketing has been done around the relaxation for adults as you can see in the launch promo video above. @magicrulo90 it depends upon how you define Lego fans. I think it shows how diverse Lego can be with creating a model that isn’t outwardly Lego. It’s also quite a nice simplistic introduction to Technic if you’ve not worked with that range before.
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    Technic 2019 Set Discussion

    I have to be honest I'm not sure about and of the H2 sets from the poor quality images that are around. The Digger isn't my sort of thing. The SUV looks odd in the photos and needs to be significantly different to the Boss Crawler to be of interest to me. The Car transporter looks ok for what it is and it would be interesting if it does end up scales to fit the Corvette too. Looks like the new small wheelarch is going to be available in a nice range of colours. The Spider Crane, again I don't have many cranes in my collection to be precise I've only 1 the Mobile Mk2. I'm excited about the new control system and what it can do ... but also a bit dissapointed as i'd just invested in an SBrick too ! However I'm most excited about the Creator Mustang, after the poor Bond Aston last year the Classic Mustang looks great.
  13. I can’t do that weekend, but I think I’d also decided I’m going to wait until Billund 2020 for my first Eurobricks event.
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    LEGO Forma - 2019

    There was an email from them saying US customers may have to wait as there had been shipping issues. I didn’t pay attention to the dates though as I’m UK based, but worth checking your emails.
  15. That’s a fantastic idea. Good luck
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    2018 Creator Sets

    Technic sets sometimes have bagged instructions, especially on the larger sets and the sticker sheet will be in the same bag
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    Classic Technic

    I think my Classic Collection runs to ... 854 Go-Kart, 8860 Car Chassis, 8844 Helicopter, 8845 Dune Buggy (love this model), 8848 PowerTruck (Tipper Lorry), 8841 Dune Buggy 8843 Fork-Lift Truck & 1972 Go-Kart ... and then I entered my first "Dark Age"
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    Classic Technic

    I've still got all my "Classic" Studded Technic. Unfortunately not the boxes but all the instructions and most of the parts, it was actually part of a plan that this year I was going to revisit them all and work out what is missing and hopefully complete them. And perhaps replace the bricks with teeth marks from when I took them apart as a kid ... Oh to have had a Brick Separator back then !
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    New LEGO Forma

    Not sure where Forma should live. I think most probably “Special Themes”. Here’s a link to my new post. I may “review” it tomorrow (Sunday).
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    LEGO Forma - 2019

    Anyone else had their set delivered? Just got home and found this waiting for me. If people want I may review it tomorrow (Sunday) when I have some time.
  21. I’ve been meaning to come along to one of these but I think I’ll save my pennies for Billund in 2020 after enjoying a trip to Lego House during late 2018. As an Englishman and ex-Southerner (i now live in what I consider to be the north of England) I know London and the surrounding area reasonably well. Although I’ve not been to legoland Windsor or Harry Potter yet (not a massive HP fan to be honest although I’ve read all the books and seen all the films). London and Windsor is unfortunately always going to be expensive for nice quality hotels/accommodation. also visiting a few children friendly / oriented places at the end of May during the Bank (Public) Holiday long weekend and week the schools have off will mean these locations are likely to be a lot busier than normal. Also traffic (road), trains (including the Tube) and airports could be manic. To those of you going, hope you have a great time (I’m sure you will) and enjoy Town (London) and Windsor. I’ll look out this time next year for Billund 2020.
  22. Do you have an additional parts list or is it too many?
  23. @I_Igor yes I know it really needs the new thinner wheels on the Hot Rod. That’s part of my plan if I get them off the rear of the Vette. @efferman looks like you’ve made quite a few mods there as I notice lots of changes to the sills and the windscreen surround too. What wheels are you using? yes I think we may need to create a MOD page for this lot!
  24. So I built the Hot Rod B-model today and did a load of colour mods. Chassis is as Light Grey as possible and Cab and details as Orange as possible (from my parts bin ... the GT3 Porsche is now missing some rear haunches). I didn’t like the front lights so I’ve swapped these out for round ones which I think more representative for a Classic Hot Rod. Wheels I’ve put the wider but same dia on the rear, the fronts I went smaller but that looks wrong to me, needs to have the new Narrows on the front. I think my first MOD will be to mount a V6 as people have suggested.
  25. Hello all ... So I jumped for joy with the new competition but the problem for me is what to build. I’d built Technic Gliders (triple competition) and Autogyros (jfair) before so needed a new challenge. I’m not sure how big or complex this is going to be or actually what it looks like overall but i knew I wanted to do a prop airplane as that’s more my thing. But I want to make it as quirky as possible while still being in the realms of real engineering. (I do have an aero degree after all). Just to show how many aircraft I’ve got here’s a collection of propellor blades. and here’s what I’ve spent this evening working on for about 4 hours ... I wanted to have a challenge with the powertrain so I’ve gone like this ... Contra-Rotating (Counter-Rotating) Propellors. Now I just need to work out how to mount this and more importantly in what!