Lady K

So your going to vote a wake up call to the first person on the list as you scrolled from bottom to top to see who had posted? Really? But Day 1 could use more analysis. With all the fluff and role playing, more time would give us more to go with in the following days. Also very interesting that you would want to vote out a non vocal player; its only day 1 so why would a scum stand out as non vocal? So now the person you selected as non vocal has appeared, you choose to vote another non vocal player. Exactly how is this train of thought going to help town find scum? This seems a bit reactionary for you. Now it has taken me a very long time to travel around the asteroid field and make my way back here to you all, but normally you give lots and lots and lots of reasons and thoughts into a vote. Why? Do you know something we don't? If Beverly is scummy to you then that is who you go with. Or are you trying to make it look like you are actually helping here? This statement alone makes you seem far more scummy than Beverly. It doesn't make any sense. Unless as I just stated it is said to make it look helpful. Which to me looks far more questionable than helpful. A no lynch would not be helpful at this point. I don't see the benefit to either side in this situation. And yes, in the past I have been an advocate of a no lynch. Why am I getting the feeling here that your worst case is what you are truly hoping for. Yes, I see that you are un voting me and voting for Beverly. What I am seeing here is that your previously stated thoughts on lynching the non vocal has changed once you saw the bandwagon forming on Beverly. I hadn't even been able to give my thoughts yet. Why didn't you vote earlier for Bev when you stated you thought she was scummy; why wait till more had voted and then add yours to the list? Really.....a missing or seriously delayed player can always be mod killed; at least that was how it was last time I was here. So now that I have had time to read everything so far, and decide that going into the asteroid field would have been a better option than trying to make sense of what is going on here; I have decided on my vote: Vote: Geordi LaForge (KotZ) Why? Based on how he has approached this whole day extension voting for non vocal players and then very quickly switch his vote to the bandwagon vote all while trying to seen helpful just isn't helpful or very town like. Now, I have been away awhile, but from past experience it seems rather scummy behavior meant to look confused and helpful. I just don't have a good feeling about it plain and simple. Exactly how is this nice or helpful?

Commander Riker reporting in; delayed due to going around extreme asteroid field.

I'm in!

Great game Kotz. Congratulations to the scum team. Sorry again for being quiet; although most usually find me far more suspicious when I am normal active; thoughts for the future.

Thank you for hosting. I had fun and look forward to watching the rest of the game. I agree; the journey with how each game plays out is what is important. Winning/ losing/ living/ being lynched or killed off is really all the same if you continue to have fun. And a sorry to everyone for my lack of keeping up due to recovering from the flu; my mind was mush the whole time. Bob, count me in for an anonymous game; sounds fun and a real challenge.

I haven't voted yet; but you list me as someone who commented on Zip but voted in another direction. A very odd thing to say. As we need a lynch for today I will for who I suspect the most; Benson. I do find Zip's behavior very odd for his normal working behavior; it still stands out as too obvious for scum. Or I could be wrong. Benson really has stood out more and his most recent post advertising that he and Zip are tied, like in some sort of contest, is truly odd. Vote: Benson (Legomonorailfan) Just two more votes for a solid lynch on Benson; then we can deal with Zip tomorrow.

My apologies for being quiet and sitting on the other side of the room here; still recovering from the flu. I will cast a vote and give my thoughts after I sift through all the distracting directions the conversation has gone. Some stand out more than others; and the sheer fact we have a three main choices and a single vote on a fourth candidate shows that in my opinion the scum are leading the town bandwagons. We only have a few hours left to form a solid lynch for today. This split is very troubling. My thoughts on the choices above, so far; Benson does stand out, as I have worked with him before on both sides of the law, and he seems to be going in two different directions at once. (more on this later) I am leaning scum on him. Agent Moore seems way too defensive in his latest post and really stands out too much to be more scummy than the others. Zip, I have also worked with on both sides of clean and shady dealings, seems to be both not be as helpful as the past and yet drawing too much attention to be on the dark side of things. I am middle of the road on him so far.

Still trying to recover from being ill; and here is where we stand. I have had previous work situations with him and this is not his typical playing style. Three more votes added . Ok, odd indeed. I have never seen anyone even suggest multiple lynches. I'll be keeping an eye on this. Same here. With the confusing posts popping up, and many standing out as suspicious, I have reviewed by brief conversation with our Officer Skinner and something stands out. She was suggesting Officer Lewis was possibly godfather or paranoid gun owner or other? She didn't think the actions were something a loyal townie would do. She added that she wouldn't be surprised to see Lewis as the lynch choice for today, if the night actions don't turn up anything. I am paraphrasing her words here and my gut says she was on to something; so I will add my vote as well. Two more votes needed for a lynch. Vote: Officer Lewis (jamesn)

I can say I agree with the PMs earlier in the game. When I have the time to be more active (RL) then I too will PM early to get a feel for initial thoughts. I was also included in the PM with our departed security; same thoughts were shared with me regarding the mass claim and of Bob appearing to try to draw attention to himself from possible PRs (her thoughts, not mine). I am recovering from the flu; the reason for my lack of participation. I am a bit confused here. It seems to me that you are stating that Benson is a good vote due to reasons you give and then you state that Diane seems to be fishy and you are sticking to your guns about her (and give good reasons to vote for her); and then you go and vote for someone completely different than what you seem to state are your top choices. And you give the only reason as Offficer Lewis' most recent post.

Dude....it is Day 1, and welcome to Day 1......Do you really think I would be all Chatty Cathy on Day 1? All I have to say, I have already said; and as for false accusations, I think everyone else is doing just fine pointing fingers at everyone else....as is typical for Day 1. Ok, really Dude? You, like, had a case against the other guy, and then suddenly switched to me cause I was being quiet on Day 1. This is like you are trying to protect a buddy or something. Of course I will vote, cause I have to....and reminder....it is Day 1 Dude. Dude, as I said to the politician dude.....it is Day 1. Now, Day 2 will be a different matter. I will add my vote to the corrupt politician, as everyone in the slammer knows all politicians are corrupt. And the quick switch of a vote with a case, to a vote cause of quietness on Day 1 is really stretching it and it vibes wrong. Vote: Senator Greene (Khscarymovie4) And to add to my accusation, it was Mr. Greene in the Library with the Rope.

Moles? Ok we need some dynamite or plastic explosives to stick down the holes once the moles make an appearance. I saw it in a movie once; about a golf course with one mole (or was it groundhog; whats the difference) causing a lot of problems. Then we blow all the explosives at once; problem solved. Then we can all dance while singing; I'm All Right!

Kaster is here, so make room for a professional to show you how to do your job right. Hey, any good grub?...., cause the joint's food is rotten.

1) Have you ever played Mafia before, and what's your experience? If not, have you read some of the games we've had on here? As many as I can 2) Can you commit to the game time wise? Yes 3) Do you talk in a quiet voice and then shout really loud, repeating what you just asked? And then shout again while asking my two young adult sons if they can repeat what I just asked them to do (Because Overwatch, and now Destiny 2 are so more important) Ok, admittedly I need my daily dose of Destiny 2 as much as them......

Thank you for hosting a great game Kintobor! Congratulations to Town for the win.

Ok, so for the record I do have a PR. I haven't wanted to bring attention to it but I was given the Universal Backup yesterday. So last night I investigated the clown and the result was scum. Do what you will with it. FyI, @fhomess, @StickFig, @Bob, your choice. And your loss for making a bad call.

Ok, thank you for clarifying. I do still find Superman very suspicious; the Joker however has been under the radar the whole game without contributing anything of substance. Could it just be he is new, of course; but in past time travels I have seen new scum fly under the radar the whole game looking townie and innocent when in reality it was the opposite. The Joker has come under suspicion the whole game from many players and yet always manages to escape closer scrutiny. If you decided that Superman was more scummy then I would switch my vote; either is fine with me today.

Or I am town and don't want to see the scum win; no town wants to get lynched. My suspicions of the Joker have not evaporated; I voted for him. At the point when you think I should have cast a vote and made a case, the conversation was not there. Yes, right now it is about lynching me, however, it is still conversation; where there was none before.

Ok so here is what I have found on the Joker for just today. When asked to restate his reasons for his vote he ends up saying everyone who voted Sattler was dead; obviously you are still alive and if you look back in your experience, when has a voting pattern from day 1 where everyone died (or almost everyone) actually lead to a scum. This was a first for me, I have not seen that before, so I would not have considered it a solid reason for a vote. Then he mentions that Superman joining on the vote now is town. This made me think he has knowledge that Superman is town; hence scum have that knowledge. To claim to be looking at my voting patters and then not provide them to support his point here; just casting suspicion on me. I could/and will if wanted, show that no I don't vote early; as has been pointed out, I have been mostly less active up until yesterday. My vote has always been cast late; however I do take the time to provide a case behind my vote rather than just showing up and voting without providing any reasons. Why don't you actually go look at my voting record and give your ideas on it. Experience is gained by taking the time to look at it yourself. Fluffy ??? Casting the first vote, and starting the bandwagon against me. How will this look tomorrow then? I haven't been accusing yet, simply asking questions. And no I am not looking for a wagon to jump on; I have gotten burned too many times in the past for the 'revenge voting' so I waited for more conversation to get going before building my case, making my point, and casting my vote. I asked you about your thoughts on the Joker because it seemed like you deliberately left him out of those you found suspicious. An oversight, possibly or not wanting to draw attention to him is also possible. He only cast the third vote on Ellie due to using the newbie to fly under the radar and appear townie today so as to go unnoticed. Without active conversation going on, there is no way to get a feel of who may be more scummy than who. With only five of us left we have to be careful today; more conversation today could help with tomorrow depending on if it is 2 or 1 scum left. My opinion is that the Joker is at least one of the scum left. Above reasons and the fact that three of us would have looked more closely at Barbossa today and agree that it was a strange choice for a scum kill last night. Vote: The Joker (Asphalt)

If you really wanted to lynch scum then you would also be looking at all the others as well. But you seem focused on me only. Asking my to give you a reason why you shouldn't lynch me and calling me out for what you consider a late vote (which I stated I would change at any time) is not scummy. If I had been asked to switch my vote, I would have. If I had been the one to hammer the vote and Superman to switch after that, then you still would have targeted me today. Also I thought, as others had, that Barbossa was acting scummy, I never attempted to lynch a townie because we didn't know till this morning that Barbossa was town. Again, you are reaching for straws in an attempt to lynch me while not even looking at any of the others. If you think you have evidence against me then present it.

Really? Where in the above post exactly are you calling my out as scum? Where is your evidence? What you are stating is that Bob is now town based on yesterday and you want to lynch me today based off my (late according to you) vote for Ellie. I really feel like you are reaching for straws here. Why are you so desperate to lynch me?

Go back and look at my post, you didn't start it, the Joker did. He made the first vote 2hrs before yours. I did look at what you have posted; it really amounts to nothing. That is why I asked.

See below. Normally I fine with being suspected; most times in my time travels something is wrong if I am not considered scummy by at least a couple of people; but really? No reasons or case build up, seems you are just jumping a bandwagon here. If you find me the best choice then state why. Correct on your first part. I also agree with the odd choice of scum kill on Barbossa; since I still found him suspicious enough that I would have looked closer at him today. I do question you as to why you are accepting the Joker as townie now? You left him off your list of suspects. I get the miller claim is probably true; but why only Superman and myself as possible votes for today?

Really? So Superman votes to suddenly seal the lynch with very little reason given and he is now confirmed town? I didn't vote late, as I had stated I would vote how the town wanted and so I did. Your fine getting rid of the Joker, reason? I understand your reasoning behind the vig possibly not being around; however, why do you find it unlikely that the blocker is still alive? Interesting that due to Superman joining on the Sattler vote (with very little reasoning given) that you state your suspicions of him are set aside. Yet you imply that only leaves me; however, I gave ample reasons for Sattler to be lynched (along with saying I would go with the town choice) and you suspect me? Strange. Sounds like you are trying to throw off suspicion from a buddy. I do find it curious that both Hera and the Joker are both ready to accept Superman as verified townie based on how he voted yesterday. I would like Chell's thoughts on this. So in my past time travels it was considered very suspicious not to vote the towns choice; even after the lynch was sealed. And now it is suspicious to vote the way town wants even after the lynch is sealed? Damed if you do and damed if you don't. I stand by my thoughts from yesterday; I found Barbossa and Ellie scummy; while at the time I would have preferred Barbossa I was fine with the Ellie lynch. To clarify; I never came out against you for voting for Sattler; I merely asked you why?

Thank you for addressing my concerns. I haven't addressed the case against Ellie for two reasons. The first is that I really find Barbossa far more suspicious which is why I placed my vote there. Ellie has just been my second choice, however, I never had a problem voting for Ellie if that is the direction of town. Her most concerning post today is given below. I find this concerning due to the fact that she states the lynch being pursed by Superman as highly illogical and then gives a good townie read on Barbossa. Like she is trying to save Barbossa from a lynch, or even trying to distance herself from Superman. So yes, I do believe the case against her. This then leads the questions of who is she trying to protect if flipped scum tomorrow, Barbossa or Superman (or even both)? A reason would be appreciated, I would like to hear what you have to say. I have given my reasons above so: Uvote: Hector Barbossa (Khscarymovie4) Vote: Ellie Sattler (LegoMonorailFan) However, I do want a closer look taken tomorrow at Barbossa. I still feel he is one of the scummy.

What bothers me the most is that you left out that there are two votes on Ellie; yours and Hera. You assume then that we buy into that both of you are town; without knowledge of you being cleared as town, then you could be scum trying to direct the lynching of townie today. Yes, I am inclined to believe the Miller claim and therefore Hera would be town; but it is still possible for her to be a third-party or even scum. Why do you think 2 scum would vote together on one person; this seems too obvious and would be noticed. I would disagree and think they would split their votes; and if we do have three, then I would think there would be one one each. Also three scum and one neutral seems a bit much for a game that started with 14 players. While I do agree that we could have 3 and not 4 scum, with 2 being preferable, your statement that you happen to think there is 3 scum left seems like you know it to be true. I find this disturbing. I never refused to switch to Ellie; if that is towns choice then so be it, I will switch. This is the second time you have put words into my statements to mean something other than what I have said; a scum tactic I have seen in the past. Hector Barbossa (Khscarymovie4) 2 Votes- (Bob, Lady K) Superman (Bob) 1 Vote- (Khscarymovie4, LegoMonorailFan) Ellie Sattler (LegoMonorailFan) 2 Votes (Stickfig, fhomess,Asphalt)