HydroWorld Outlook

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  1. Great reviews! Although, now that I have watched these firsthand reviews of the set, I will briefly say that I am very curious why TLG designed the new hub to have those two additional rotating outputs on the back side of it that we didn't see used in this set. It would make no sense to drive wheels with those outputs since there are already dedicated outputs for that on the sides of the unit, but it would make a lot of sense to drive boat propellers with them, because you would not need any 90-degree gear connections to change the axle mounting direction. So I am really starting to wonder if this is an early, obvious teaser for an RC boat set, or better yet, an amphibious vehicle set that we'll be getting from Technic sometime next year. I know that's probably a whole other conversation for a whole other topic on this forum, but I just thought maybe I should point that out real quick in case it is, in fact, a huge and important clue for next year's sets. Because this hub seems to perform surprisingly better than I thought it would in this set, and it would only make sense for TLG to want to reuse this part as much as possible in future sets to drive costs down.
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    Technic 2025 Speculation

    Since we had Technic space sets this year, perhaps it would make sense for there to be underwater Technic sets next year? Sometimes LEGO will follow a space, sea pattern with their sets like did for City and Friends. Plus, vehicles and structures from space and sea use the same airlock connector pieces anyways. And besides, we haven't gotten any proper lines of underwater sci-fi sets since Atlantis, really (subthemes Ninjago Seabound and City Deep Sea Explorers technically don't count.) Another cross-theme wave dedicated to Aquazone or some other related branding would be ideal. If I am correct and such sets are released, I would anticipate most if not all of the Technic models would have manual functions like the space models did (as to anticipate children wanting to play with them in water), unless some new underwater motor system is introduced for the Powered UP System (like the one Playmobil has). A new underwater motor is definitely unlikely until proven otherwise by TLG, but even with manual functions any underwater Technic model would be greatly appreciated, since no underwater Technic vehicles have been released since that yellow submarine set with the CD-ROM back in 1997 (the mini-sub in 2015's Deep Sea Explorer set doesn't really count.)
  3. The cool part is, since the 42181's engine pods can rotate a full 360 degrees, it would allow for relatively quick and easy modification to a V-22 Osprey or other tiltrotor aircraft just by replacing the pod thrusters with rotors, swapping the landing legs for landing ger, and maybe replacing the rearmost engines with a tail boom. This adds a lot of value to the set, and for sure I will be getting it.
  4. @SNIPE That's a really cool mod idea you have there. But keep in mind that elongated rotor blades may not clear the rear stabilizer fin when spinning if the tail boom is not extended further back, since the 42145 was originally designed for the shorter previous helicopter blades. And a longer tail would increase weight at the back of the model, so you would likely need to either extend the undercarriage or use thicker wheels for landing gear that can support the additional weight. Plus, the fuselage would likely need to be enlarged or widened substantially to accommodate the extra motors, not to mention incorporate space for the Buwizz 3.0 unit.
  5. In case anyone didn't notice, as I was watching this review, I noticed at playhead 3:25 that the display console inside the rover's cockpit looks shockingly similar to the button arrangement on the LEGO NXT brick. What a fun and clever nod to the Mindstorms theme! :)
  6. That's true. But I'm very happy to see that we're finally getting those Technic ring elements (which were previously only found in LEGO City and Friends sets) in more useful colors with this set. Also, I'm curious to see if there are other applications for the new large Technic hemispheres in this set. If TLG releases them in clear in some point, we could create Gyrospheres with them. Or they could be used as wheels, or maybe even airtanks or floatation devices if the two halves are sealed up with tape (the latter two ideas would be more difficult to execute, but I'm very curious to see if any MOC builders would choose to use them for those purposes). Either way, without a doubt, this set's a sure buy for me.
  7. It's very good to see the VTOL aircraft concept return to LEGO Technic in some form, even though there are no rotors this time. Wait, maybe the engines spin. There are driveshafts inside the turntables that support the engines on the ends of the spaceship's wings. I don't see this feature on the box but maybe that's what the knobs on the inside of the spaceship do.
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    Renewable energy fan

    Your post definitely made my day indeed. It's nice to see those 89509 rotor blades being put to good use again! Great work! :)
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    42159 Yamaha MT-10 SP

    The new gearbox elements are a very pleasant surprise for sure. I look forward to seeing how well they will perform in motorized models. Unfortunately, however new parts like these may signal the phasing out and discontinuation of other transmission pieces we had before, like the 3L driving rings and orange wave selectors, and these new parts will start out pretty expensive since they've only been included with one set thus far, so building up-to-date transmissions with these new pieces will not be easy until we start seeing them in more sets.
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    42146 - Liebherr LR13000

    Well, that said, collectors might be okay with the price. Keep in mind that this an 18+ set, and many sets with this label, including the Eiffel Tower, Ferrari, and Titanic are primarily marketed towards late teenagers and adults who are less likely to care about playability. It costs many hundred dollars to buy a licensed collector's action figure because manufacturers expect that collectors will pay more money for the same item. While I strongly disagree with the price TLG has set for this model, I can only imagine that those same expectations apply here. If people really want the pleasure and comfort of owning the set and experiencing all it has to offer, they'll just have to work that much harder at their jobs so they can cash out the money for it. Honestly, rather than complaining about the direct retail price, I think we'd be better just waiting for the set to go on sale at Amazon or some other outlet. Surely, as we get closer to the 2023 holiday season (which will only be about 4.5 months away when this set releases in the United States), we'll be seeing discounts on this set left and right. And hopefully, once inflation slows down enough for prices to fall (which won't be for a while but will happen) then the cost of this set will be more reasonable.
  11. Nice work so far! I can't wait to see how the final version looks. Also, I have a suggestion for how you could accomplish blade pitch. Maybe if you attach each of the five rotor blades to 12-tooth single bevel gears (using 2 of this part, 2 of this part, and 1 of this part on each rotor blade), with a 20-tooth single bevel gear in the center, you could achieve adjustable pitch on all blades in a compact space. Building the rotor hub should not be that much of challenge using the new starfish piece, which I see you have already done in the pictures posted above. Because you would be using the axle to control blade pitch, you would need to mount the entire rotor assembly on a 28-tooth turntable in order to drive it, which could be accomplished by connecting one arm of the starfish piece directly to the turntable's upper toothed half. Doing all this would enlarge the whole rotor a bit but only slightly. Normally I would not recommend this method for variable-pitch propellers on LEGO Technic models because centrifugal force would easily rip all the blades out while the propulsion motor is spinning them, but because there are no electric motors allowed in this competition, and all functions must be manually-operated, centrifugal force should not factor here. Additionally, if you would like to simulate the collective and cyclic pitch functions of the larger model in your scaled-down version, you could connect the blade pitch control axle (the axle rotating the central 20-tooth gear) to a universal joint so that it can be tilted while rotating. Hopefully these ideas help.
  12. Yes, thank you so much for this thread. I found these tips and tutorials very helpful indeed.
  13. I know I'm not the first person to say this, but it would be really nice if TLG could finally start including physical remotes for the Powered UP system in their motorized sets, or at least include the train remote that comes with some of the LEGO City sets.
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    MOC - Multi Use Vehicle

    This is a pretty impressive model. Very neat little vehicle. :)
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    42146 - Liebherr LR13000

    The final set looks great and all from the official pictures I now see on the LEGO website, though I am quite a bit saddened by the price tag. The 6 included large angular motors will hugely benefit both the Technic and Mindstorms communities for sure, as these motors were previously only found in two other Technic sets, both of which now discontinued. These motors are essentially the same as their counterparts from the Spike Prime line but come in more neutral colors and can interface with the Technic Large Hub that comes with the 51515 set. More of these motors included in the set means there will be more of them in production, which will hopefully reduce their prices on Bricklink. Plus, we will be getting many large Technic frames in this set, which really excites me thinking about the behemoth B-models the Rebrickable community will almost inevitably come up with for this set. However, while these motors definitely add value to the set, they come at the cost of simplifying the model's mechanical complexity (no transmission driving rings and fewer gears and axles), which may draw many fans away from this set considering its enormous price tag, including myself. Even if I do buy it, I'll probably have to wait until the Christmas holiday sales before purchasing it to save money, because I've heard that a lot of parents with kids who like Technic are already shaking their heads no at this set. At this point, it shouldn't be much longer now before full video reviews go up on YouTube, and then we will all be able to confidently determine whether or not this crane is actually worth the $700 US Dollars TLG claims it to be.
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    42146 - Liebherr LR13000

    With the final model now revealed, I can now safely say that this set appears to be a mix of both good news and bad news. The good news is, the price seems to have gone down a bit for the same amount of pieces, which means the part value of the set increases and we may no longer have to pay that ridiculous $700 price tag that was rumored previously (even though we cannot be exactly sure of this yet—hopefully I am correct on this). The other good news is that we're getting all those new frame and counterweight pieces, which may find useful applications in MOCs after the set's official release. The bad news is that we're not getting those 7L tracks in a neutral color yet after all, because the pictures make it obvious that TLG has decided to use the plain old 5L-wide tracks, which is fine but definitely raises my concern of the model's stability considering its massive height. Additionally, as Unbrickme has pointed out, there will be no gearbox in this set (like the disappointingly basic 42100 set), and as a consequence we can expect less mechanical complexity for the already steep price that we will be paying to buy this set ($550). In the 42131 set, we had less motors but we also had a gearbox, allowing a greater number of mechanical functions for a lower price ($450), so this set does look like a step backward when taken from an engineering perspective. But I suppose we'll see how well this set performs when it hits shelves in the next few months.
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    42146 - Liebherr LR13000

    $700 for just 2,882 pieces? That's crazy for a Technic set. You could buy two full Mindstorms kits for $700. If this set had triple that parts count, then a $700 price tag would make a bit more sense, but even so it would still be overpriced, especially considering the giant Control+ flagship sets that cost $450, so I hope that's not this set's official price. If that is the set's actual price, then the final model better show some very, very strong justification for it, or there's a lot of people on this forum who won't be purchasing it, including myself.
  18. I sure hope so, or TLG is about to miss out on some huge revenue.
  19. Unfortunately, according to the last photo on this topic's previous page, and as I explained in my prior post, TLG has let us down again with another silly implementation of the Augmented Reality app similar to those of the 42137 and 42138 licensed pullback racer sets from last year. Rather than an informative, interactive demonstration of how the real rover works, TLG instead chose to compromise educational value in favor of a pointless rock sample collection game that by itself will fail to provide an engaging, educational experience for children, parents, and adult fans who will eventually be spending money to buy this set. The model looks good and the functions seem to work good (even though none of us will know this for sure until the video reviews post), but the biggest critiques I have in regards to the 42158 set definitely fall on its AR app profile. Although I can only judge this app profile based on the one snapshot we have so far for the time being, and although there may be additional app features for this set that just haven't been displayed to us yet, I can't really imagine that there will be much more functionality in store for us beyond the game, especially considering where the profiles of last year's licensed pulback cars fell short. So again, I consider this set as a massive missed opportunity for the TLG and a huge disappointment, especially considering the set's ridiculously high $90 price point. As far as I'm concerned, if TLG really wants the extra money from their sets, then their designers must travel the extra mile and consider both the financial and educational value of products they release in order to deliver the best possible results with their available resources. But all we can hope at this point is that TLG openly takes any negative consequences that result from their app design choices as learning opportunities to improve future Technic sets.
  20. I would get this too if the model's educational value were worth the 90 US Dollars the TLG claims it to be.
  21. The game does look fun, but it's a real shame that TLG seems to be letting us down again with their Augmented Reality Experience app. A rock sample collection game doesn't sound all that much different from the racing games they released for the licensed pullback cars before, and unfortunately, it doesn't look like the app profile for the 42158 set will have much focus on the actual functions of the model like the 42129 set did back in 2021. TLG could have used their Augmented Reality Experience in an educational way to demonstrate how the real-life Perseverance Rover actually worked, and its a real bummer that they chose to pass up that opportunity—again. Yes, the pullback cars only had their pullback motors as functions, but this mars rover as we know it contains many more functions than that, so the number of functions the set has cannot be a legitimate excuse for why TLG didn't do better with their AR experience for this model. According to the box label, this set is recommended for kids aged 10 and over. In the grand scheme of things, sets from the Technic line are supposed to educate children on how the mechanisms used by real-life machines work while also doing their part of encouraging the next generation to pursue future careers in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM). While the 42129 Zetros set was applauded for extending its educational value by employing AR technology to demonstrate how its internal mechanisms actually worked, this set (42158) kinds of wastes that opportunity with what is essentially another racing game. While such a game can be fun for most children, I do not see how it alone accomplishes this set's true "mission" of teaching its recipients how the real-life rover actually works. If TLG wants to incorporate augmented reality functionality into their Technic sets that badly, they should at least use their power for a good cause and embrace this technology to extend the models' educational values and provide genuine learning opportunities for kids who buy the set and download the app, especially if they're going to primarily market these sets towards children. And besides, parents are usually far more willing to purchase a toy for their children if they see it has considerable educational in return for sacrificing such large amounts of money that they otherwise could have just as easily used in far more productive ways, like saving into their child's college fund or donating to those in need. I mean, once this set is released, it will cost a whopping $90 in the United States. That's a lot of money to spend on toys for many American families, especially those without electronic components. In fact, this set costs so much that I won't be too surprised if some simply cannot afford it altogether. And remember, this set isn't even motorized. Parents of these families would want considerable reasons to buy this set for such a high price, and its educational value would be a very important decision factor in these cases. So my advice to the Technic team is that they learn from the experience and feedback that results from releasing this set, and thoroughly consider the educational value of future products and app features they release before revealing them to the public community. I also advise that they take the augmented reality features that worked with 42129 and apply them to future sets. By doing these things, it's almost guaranteed that they would see much better sales through maximizing the educational value of products they release, At least that's my two cents.
  22. Wow! Fantastic job on this model! I really like how you designed the engine. :)
  23. Let's also not lose sight of the fact that the value of parts the set contains factors in as well, especially new elements and existing ones in new colors. Even if the set by itself doesn't prove to be worth the money, many MOC builders (especially those who enjoy building heavy construction equipment) may still go after it gung ho for the parts it contains, especially the new frames and (possibly) new counterweight elements. While some of the set's new pieces, like the A-Frames, may be possible to find in the much cheaper 42157 set, the more useful straight variants (the 7x17 frames) will likely remain exclusive to this set until shops on Bricklink start selling them individually. Unfortunately, as we all know, there is an obvious delay that occurs between the official set's worldwide release and the separate sales of its individual parts. New parts are not sold individually until there are enough of them in general production, and the online shops stock them up. Until then, buying the entire 42146 set will be the only possible way to get these exclusive new pieces, so anyone who wants them before they are individually available will have no choice but to purchase the entire set regardless of whether they like the official model or not. TLG could benefit from this market in the time that it takes for Bricklink to start selling these new pieces outside of the 42146 set. But it's important to note that even after these new parts become available outside of the set they come in, they'll still be considered rare and expensive no matter what as long as they only exist in one set, especially after that one set is eventually discontinued. We'd have to wait until TLG uses them again in another set to drive those costs down.
  24. Surely it won't be much longer now before someone somewhere attempts a full RC mod of this set with lights and Powered-UP (or BuWizz) control profile. The fake spinning electric motor at the front axle feels like a missed opportunity that TLG could have used to add Control+ components to this set, or at least provided the option to add an actual motor in (like they do for many of their technical system-based sets). Wouldn't it be nice to have such a functional, good looking model that can also be remotely driven around? Also, I'm curious to see what the Rebrickable community comes up with for this set's missing B-model.
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    42146 - Liebherr LR13000

    Well, we'll see.