Fazit

I don't know why. Why don't you look like a panda anymore? Ask a silly question... I don't hide, I just flew in to visit. Heard there was a party. Haven't been disappointed. As for being expensive, I suppose it depends on your perspective. There was a time when my ancestor and his partner cost a town everything.

Well well well, what do we have here? You lot have managed to get yourselves in trouble, just like our ancestors did. Am I going to have to clean up another mess? I'll tell Torgam on you, Miss Cow lady. You seem oddly familiar anyway...

And who were you? We ever going to see the day you can make it through day one without being you? Always kill the active and invested, unless they're helping you inadvertently.

Let's be honest, Martin was also a cannibal and he killed your dietician, so was he really any better? Now, the kingdom can thrive in peace and harmony under the just and righteous rule of dragons, as it should be. Based on the idea that I was lying about what Omrom told me, but it was 100% accurate, and when Martin confirmed it, you suspected him as well. You did seem to trust Quinn though, and he was my partner. Thanks for a fun game, DD. Now let the griping commence about the differences in the roles and the wiki roles. Just in case anyone wonders, the scum weren't given role/alignment, only alignment, contrary to the wiki, but in accordance with our role PM. Good thing we waited to kill a power role until the last day, huh?

Yay, we did it guys, we must have! We should have done it on day 1, but at least we got here together.

Aw, thank you! Look, Covimgamully, a star for your cart! I bet Omrom would love it... That reminds me, we have business to take care of and our friends and family to avenge. Omrom didn't trust you and neither do I. Nothing you've said or done has changed that. Vote: Ellis Go on, keep lying like Josie did. Look how well that turned out for her.

Everything I've said is paraphrased from what Omrom said, and I know he was paraphrasing as well because he was afraid of breaking the rules. He thought your attempt to take the blame for Ima's lynch was incredibly weird and misplaced, like someone trying to set themselves up as a townie. He was certain you were scum and I believe it. Thank you for confirming what Omrom said. I definitely consider guessing to be fishing when you're guessing to the person who knows and don't bother asking the important questions about their targets and alignments. It's ok, I haven't had much practice at it, but I can roar like my brothers and scare it off. ROAR! What was the spooky thing I just scared off?

I can't quote and you know that, but it's the truth. Our PM is longer than any of the game days, so I had to go back to find the exact messages. He said, very clearly, that Quinn and I had only asked for who the vig had targeted and their alignments and that you said not to trust them and tried to guess who it was. That is clearly fishing for their identity. He directly said that you didn't ask for any of the important information, the things that could help the town figure out what was going on. You screwed up and then he died, so you probably thought that wouldn't be revealed, but he may have also told Martin, I certainly hope he did. You never said a lot of things, did you? You certainly made him think you were a killer somehow, and his last sad message to me was about being scared for one of us. He will be avenged, I guarantee it.

I can confirm most of what you said, Omrom and I talked a lot. I was already certain he wasn't the vig, he left a hidden message on day 1 claiming vanilla and I believed it. We spent hours and hours trying to calculate every possible situation, bouncing ideas and plans at each other, and ultimately he came up with writing everyone to gauge their responses. He was certain that either he or I would die from the scum, but that if the vig killed properly, we could still win. As you said, based on the replies, he was absolutely certain that Ellis was the scum and I agree. The way I read Omrom's paraphrasing of it, Ellis asked who the vig was and never had any interest in the targets. That's about as scummy as it gets in that situation. I wish we had lynched him on day 1. I wish you hadn't, as Omrom called it, stayed home, last night. As confusing as it is, we can't be at 2:2. I only have one possible answer for that. If the scum role was changed slightly to make them partners but without knowing who the other was, working independently and somehow looking for each other, given alternating days for their kills, one could accidentally kill the other before they reunited. It would be a pretty good way to balance things, but as unbalanced as the serial killer was, I'm not entirely convinced. Still, it's the only way I see us being alive today: one of them killed the other. I understand why you didn't kill last night. We didn't know if your odds would be 3:1 or 2:2, though I'll still argue it can't be 2:2, and you didn't want to make a mistake and doom us all. Ultimately, inaction might be our doom, though, and we no longer have the option. If it's 3:1 and we don't lynch, the scum, know exactly who to target. If it's 2:2, it isn't going to matter, they can't be lynched or outnumbered and will eventually win by default. There is no statistic for a town/scum draw in Donner, only scum/SK, and at least we dealt with that horrible possibility. And then he died.

The bitch lied! She had the nerve to try to sully the good name of Covam, claiming he was scum and leaving us to think we were safer than we were. And now Omrom! Dear, adorable Omrom, the last of my poor family. It looks like he was killed while still holding his beloved golden dragon statue, Covimgamully. Why? Will this nightmare ever end?

According to that page, so do the scum, so that doesn't prove much. Speaking of which, if Covam was scum, had he killed anyone? You should have received their information as well.

I was still hoping the blocker was alive. I wouldn't believe her now if he hadn't claimed to you. That keeps nagging at me, it's such a risky move, but she has to be some kind of bad killer and none of them can work with the town. At least we know that much. I know where there is a cart, we can pull it around in that and it can ride like a king. You're being so nice, please don't be bad...

Sadly, that's the only part that may not be completely psycho, though it could still be a lie. According to the Donner page, she has been told the role/alignment of all of her victims. Another situation where the wiki is confirmed as true, assuming she hasn't lied again. It's kind of funny how she keeps digging up new claims the closer she gets to death.

A plain neutral, like you tried to claim, maybe, but not a Serial Killer. How? We pick a target and you promise to kill them and then kill another one of us instead? That sounds helpful. Here's what we do know. If the scum are both dead and you could stall us long enough to kill the vig, you'd win, the only way you can, alone. If you aren't lying and Covam was scum, and the vig is already dead, killing the other scum would also let you win, alone. I'm sensing a pattern here, and it only works if we let you live. And by works, I mean works for you, since none of those options save the town. Now now, no need for that. Why insult drunks, crack addicts, concussion sufferers or people who are possessed by demons? She's just a psycho and a liar.

People should be able to compare their own role pms to the wiki and see how it lines up, whatever side they're on. The differences in the wiki and the real game are too minor to invalidate the overwhelming matching information. I hope people will come to the logical conclusion. To be honest, I don't think that anyone is falling for her nonsense anyway, so there is no point risking the wrath of the hosting gods by trying to be too direct. Speaking of the logical conclusion. Vote: Josie Somehow that went from adorable to nauseating, but congratulations anyway. I might be a little jelly of the pretty gold statue. Maybe... It sounded odd to me when he seemed to change from suspicious to dismissive about the whole Ima self-vote. Still does, but the latest explanation that scum wouldn't bring attention to themselves that way is at least reasonable and might back up the belief that Ima would flip town. I don't feel like I've had good reads on anyone this game, though. There have been a lot of little things that haven't seemed right, but never developed into anything more.