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  1. 2 hours ago, dr_spock said:

    It could be an easier building and playing experience with a single piece nose for certain segments of the population. I guess it depends on whom TLG targets for a specific product set.  An Amtrak passenger train would be cool.

    I neither care about single piece noses nor if it is Amtrak or not but rather if it is well-designed. I hope for innovation, new train specific parts, better use of Powered Up, accessory sets (e.g. additional couches, railroad crossing, station, ...).

  2. But no rumors for a train set yet...

    We can safely assume that there will be no train set in 2021.

    Let's hope for 2022, it should bring us at least new City trains. I wish they make great use of Powered Up and add some automation features or at least lights. Let's face it, even the Duplo trains are more sophisticated than the City trains.


  3. 2 minutes ago, Amoreternum said:

    The problem with the theme is just that every addition, like rolling stock or more locomotives, either have to rely on an existing layout at home, thereby making the number of potential customers smaller, or these additions have to have the appeal to be displayed without such a layout but then these have to be very, very recognisable.

    Space is always an issue, no matter what Lego theme you are collecting. Train layouts can be setup temporarily and otherwise stored efficiently. I'd say collecting stadions, ships, flowers and mosaics is much more limited regarding space compared to trains. 

    9 minutes ago, Amoreternum said:

    2) I don't see... well, since we all are using these parts just fine :D

    Do you really run long 8-wide trains? If it's working fine, then you are certainly using lots of third party parts. 

  4. 3 hours ago, Black Knight said:

    You can simply demand a lot more money if you have LEGO printed on the box. Companies like Mattel, Shantou City Golds Precision Technology or COBI have similar brick quality, but can only demand a fraction of what TLG does.

    Other companies could charge as much as Lego does if their designs would be on the same level as Lego's and not stolen from MOCers, if they had no missing parts, good instructions, a support team in Europe and so on. Brick quality is only one factor out of many.

    Cobi is a good example of a company that is nearly as expensive as Lego because they are acting professionally.

  5. 6 hours ago, Amoreternum said:

    It's just a niche and for a huge company like Lego too big an investment, especially when you consider the small size of the train hobby in general.

    It's not a niche. Take a look at the statistics of 'owned' and 'want have' sets of the last few months at You'll see that the Crocodile did pretty well and is in the middle of the most/least popular sets. There are so many sets that did worse, e.g. stadions, nevertheless  Lego continues such collections with one set per year. I see the following reasons why Lego doesn't pay more attention to train fans:

    • None of the designers has a passion for trains and pushes the management to release train sets.
    • The current train components (tracks, wheels, motors, hubs) are not good enough for heavy 8-wide trains.
    • Releasing sets that only require standard parts is more profitable than trains sets with all their special parts, despite the high demand for trains.

  6. 21 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

    Maybe there's a shortage of electronic parts ? Considering all the chip shortages and container issues it wouldn't even suprise me if that's part of the reason City train sets are in lower availability right now.

    Or maybe there's demand because kids like trains? 

  7. 1 hour ago, michaelgale said:

    2. Voltage Selection - it is important for this control to look forwards as well as backwards--that it why it has 12V available--to support new high performance motor products.  Accidental selection of 12V mode for legacy 9V motor products is highly unlikely to do any damage--almost all motors are capable of operating beyond their "rated" voltage.  As was mentioned, it simply increases heat dissipation and there is protection for thermal overload.  Besides, its unlikely that anyone is running their 9V motors at full power continuously and any train running at 12V full power will likely not stay on the track for very long!


    1 hour ago, michaelgale said:

    5. Auto/Low mode - These are not finalized.  These labels refer to PWM motor control modes.  Auto is a the default quiet high frequency PWM mode.  Low mode is very low frequency PWM for older and/or sticky/crusty/bulky motors!  Sometimes these older motors do not operate very well with high frequency PWM and require a bit of "boost" with longer durations of motor current in the PWM duty cycle.  We're not sure if we're going to retain these labels and modes but we're still testing.


    Voltage and low mode are set only once and will not change during normal operation. The buttons shouldn't be placed at the front but at the bottom for easy usage and to prevent accidential changes. The controller might be used by children, so it's better to hide functions they don't understand.


    1 hour ago, michaelgale said:

    6. Blue connectors are fixed voltage outputs to power up accessories or "slave" speed controllers (half width).  The orange output is the variable voltage/speed control output.

    No blue please. Use white or gray instead.

  8. 5 hours ago, jburgt said:

    While Lego makes their trains standard in 6 studs wide, for both, collectors and riders, it’s also their standard. New Lego kits are essential and highly wished. And better not in 7- or 8- studs wide.

    The Crocodile is 7-wide and the Disney train is 8-to-10-wide.

    Imho this is a clear indication that the 6-wide era is over except for city sets made for kids.

    We are used to a level of detail that cannot be met in 6-wide. And Lego certainly doesn't want to release anything that looks worse than Bluebrixx' 8-wide collection. They also made their Titanic more detailed than Cobi's.

    MOCers also prefer 8-wide.

    5 hours ago, jburgt said:

    While Lego makes their trains standard in 6 studs wide, for both, collectors and riders, it’s also their standard. New Lego kits are essential and highly wished. And better not in 7- or 8- studs wide.

    The Crocodile is 7-wide and the Disney train is 8-to-10-wide.

    Imho this is a clear indication that the 6-wide era is over except for city sets made for kids.

    We are used to a level of detail that cannot be met in 6-wide. And Lego certainly doesn't want to release anything that looks worse than Bluebrixx' 8-wide collection. They also made their Titanic more detailed than Cobi's.

    MOCers also prefer 8-wide.

    9 hours ago, McWaffel said:

    Secondly, the size and weight of the train has little to no effect on the way it runs on Lego track. If you design the undercarriage well, you will not have any problems. It’s also not related to the width of the cabin at all. Thirdly, you don’t need ball bearings to make a large train run well. The crocodile is a large, detailed, 7-wide engine and it’s fairly heavy compared to most Lego train engines. And it runs perfectly fine on Lego track.

    I'm afraid you are wrong. The new wheels do not perform well if the coach is heavy and of course more width means more length and more details and consequently more weight. Of couse it would be possible to develop better wheels, but Lego decided to develop cheaper wheels. I doubt they change that for a few 18+ sets.

    The Crocodile is an engine and not an entire train. It's running performance is ok, but far away from being perfect.

  9. 1 hour ago, zachsterosu said:

    I see there is creator expert set 10298 releasing next year. It's listed as an "unknown vehicle" for $99. With the crocodile locomotive soon to be discontinued, what are the chances that this could be a new train?

    There is no information except pricing yet:

    I don't think we get an 18+ train collection series soon. For an 18+ set, Lego has to go 7- or 8-wide but the size and weight of such a train causes issues with Lego's train motor, wheels and tracks. They won't release anything that requires third party ball bearings and large-radius curves to work well. So my guess is we don't get trains, only an engine every few years designed primarily as a display model with optional mediocre motorization. For a serious attempt on a train collection, they would have to develop much more than just a train set. The difference to the 18+ car sets is that nobody expects that the cars really work, but for train sets, there's the expectation that the engine can at least pull a few coaches.

  10. One-stud-wide ties are an optical improvement. But you'll need switches, which will be more complex to develop. With ballast plates (e.g. from TrixBrix) and one-wide tiles you could get a similar look using existing parts.

    I wonder if Lego will ever redesign their dated tracks. There's so much room for improvement. And if they make dual-molded tracks they would outclass the compitition.




  11. 4 hours ago, Polarlicht said:

    BlueBrixx has some intertesting transportation stuff. I might try that at some point!

    Nearly all of their 6-wide trains are ugly, but some of the upcoming 8-wide models look really nice. If only the quality of their bricks, instructions and service would improve...

    4 hours ago, zephyr1934 said:

    @jburgt There's an entire spectrum of build philosophies among the members here, mostly ranging from the purists who strictly use Lego bricks to very liberal people who will use 3rd party bricks, cut, paint, glue, and use all sorts of other four letter words in their constructions. There are some fascinating challenges to building if you limit yourself to strictly lego bricks, in fact there are even a few people here who will not use Lego bricks manufactured after some date, e.g., 1990 (I think most of these folks specify brick designs, but at least one case was literally after a specific date). There is no one answer, most of the members recognize the challenges under all of the different scenarios and can appreciate the skill even if it 'violates' one of their personal rules or could easily be worked around by relaxing a personal rule. I suspect personal background is the biggest determining factor- folks who came to Lego trains through other Lego themes are more likely to tend purist, and folks who came from other forms of model railroading are more likely to take a kit-bashing approach.

    People's opinions will evolve, in a few years most of us will have 3rd party bricks, the temptation to buy excellent 3rd party models will get stronger with an increasing quality level of Lego's competitors.

    My current approach to 3rd party party products is buying tracks and occasionally trains and modular buildings. I'm quite pleased with the 3rd party tracks, but the quality of the buildings and trains is mostly disappointing.

  12. 12 hours ago, Black Knight said:

    I think that the target audience which is wealthy enough to buy premium products like LEGO have a tendency to live in cities and therefore have homes which do not have the space for train layouts and instead prefer compact dust catchers not larger than a baseplate.

    Space is an issue when collecting Lego indeed. But trains is a good theme to collect on low space because the trains themselves are rather small compared to other 'dust catcher' sets and can be stored in display cases or closets most of the time and occasionally be used on a temporary layout on the floor.


    On 9/28/2021 at 7:18 PM, Polarlicht said:

    Found this video and i love it.

    This has to happen :D

    Fully agree, but I would also be happy with diesel or electric units.

    2022 is the very last chance for Lego to prove that they take adult train fans seriously. If not, I think it's time to switch to other brands at a large scale and accept that it's not possible to use 100% Lego parts any longer.


  13. Thank you for your help, I managed to fix it. As suggested, I carefully removed the switch blade with the brick separator. Be really careful, I nearly damaged the connector (it got a small white spot). Both sides of the rubber band were equally stressed. What solves the issue is to lift the rubber band so that it is not in tough with the base. It seems the tolerances of the gap between the pin on the switch blade (that should stay between the two sides of the rubber band) and the base are too high.

    I was expected that a metal spring is used. The rubber band is a bad design decision because no rubber band survives for more than 20-30 years while all other ABS parts of the switch have a lifetime of >100 years. Rubber bands were also used in the drives of many audio and VHS cassette decks and none of these decks from the 80ies and 90ies work any longer because the rubber bands got brittle and tore off. Of course the issues can easily be fixed by replacing the rubber bands, but it's more likely that the products will be disposed. 



  14. I'm experience a problem with the switches if a train passes the switch with the switch blade in the wrong position. The switch becomes non-functional. The functionality can be restored by moving the switch blade until it snaps again, nevertheless, it is annoying and I'm worried that after some time it won't snap anymore.

    Out of four switches, it always happens with one switch and sometimes with a second switch.



  15. 23 hours ago, Vilhelm22 said:

    Trains as a form of transportation has also declined - though a more recent surge in the past 20 years has improved them.  Trains were for many years the main form of transportation - but this was long ago now, and the generation that remembers is now gradually shrinking in size, and with it the model railway hobby.  It doesn’t help that they’re so overpriced these days - young people have less exposure to the beauty of miniature locomotives traversing their living rooms.  The generic commuter trains simply haven’t the sleekness and appeal of those historic trains, and don’t encourage children to get in the hobby.  Who wins - A Gresley A3, or a British Rail Class 455 or the like?  Obviously the A3.  Trains aren’t what they used to be themselves.

    Agreed, prices for model trains are ridiculously high. If you ever thought Lego is very expensive, then you've never been in a model railroad store. This becomes even more problematic with the high risk to damage the trains, parts got thinner and fragile over the years. Models trains are no longer suitable for playing, they can only be displayed or run in a safe environment. I wouldn't allow friends to touch a model railroad, it would make me nervous that they break something. The third reason why model railroads became unpopular is because they became too complex, especially DCC is a usability disaster.

    For all these reasons I switched to Lego trains. You can play with friends without being worried and you don't have to teach them how to run the trains. Of course Lego bricks can break, too, but then only a 0.25 € piece needs to be replaced and not an entire 500 € model. I like the idea that Lego trains do not look 100% accurate and are not built exactly to scale: Model railroading became too perfectionistic and would be frustrating for me because I know that I could never reach the level of landscape building shown by a few highly talented experts on the Internet. I think focusing on the fun part and following the instructions of talented Lego artists is a much better choice than building a classic model railroad that is considered old-fashioned by most of the people. And finally I like change: Gluing the tracks to a plate gets boring after a few months. The layout shall evolve over time.

  16. 3 hours ago, 1974 said:

    Only thing you can do, as a train fan, is to buy the train sets available :thumbup:

    There are options. Bluebrixx seem to go 8-wide now and their 8-wide models look more appealing than their rather crappy 6-wide stuff. They should switch to GoBricks parts, however, to get the quality right.


    3 hours ago, 1974 said:

    The Creator cars have a proven trackrecord of revenue, the mosaics and botanical sets not so much ... yet. And it's all down to those pesky "focus groups" that seem to love stuff like this and not trains

    I bought the bonsai and the flower bouquet and maybe buy the birds of paradise as well. But nobody would have complained if there is just one flower set per year - in 2021 we got three so far.

    I have built one self-designed mosaic (with the parts from the mosaic maker set). I can't imagine anybody decorating the entire apartment with Lego mosaics - within one year. One mosaic in the Lego room is enough, imho.

  17. 23 minutes ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

    My hopes are gone - it seems as if we won't get any CE Trains set this year - that's really bad! :thumbdown:

    I really do not understand why TLG sells tons of licensed exclusive sets - but there are nearly no unlicensed exclusive sets this year (only Police Station, Pickup and hopefulls a nice Winter Village set). :cry_sad:


    I don't get why Lego floods the market with certain products like Creator Expert cars and a huge number of products that can be summarized as dust-catchers (botanical collection, mosaics, ...). There's nothing wrong with these sets of course, but why so many of them while neglecting other themes?